First 24" Large Marge Uni

OMFG! that is one sexy unicycle. mostly in the rim/tire region. nice
work.

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Wonder if the LM/Intense or Gaz combo would fit on a Lightrider or KH 24
frame???

JL

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Can we get a measurement of the width of your tire while inflated in
that rim?
(inches please 😄 )

I may have to whip out the charge card ...

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Dave, what is the effect, in your opinion, of the wide spoke spacing on
the LM rim, given the fairly narrow flange width of the Profile hub and
other splined hubs that we use for muni?
In other words, it seems there isn't much spoke "angle" from the hub
flange to the rim, as the spokes go almost vertical when viewed from the
front or rear.

Would it benefit wheel strength any to cross-lace the spokes to go from
the left flange to the right spoke holes in the rim, and vice-versa??

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Tire width measurement done at 15psi. Luddites will have to do the
metric-to-inch conversion.

Intense DH 3.0: Casing 74mm
Tread 73mm

Nokian Gazz 3.0: Casing 81mm
Tread 71mm

Regarding spoke angle. No failures on the 26" Large Marge, yet. The
24" will be stronger....more acute spoke angle relative to the hub axis.
A well-built, properly-tensioned Large Marge wheel will stay as true as
anything else available on the market.

Cross-lacing won't work. The eyelets won't allow it. Even if it was
possible...1) It's not necessary 2) It would put too much stress on
the hub flanges and the spoke elbows...where most spokes break.

Joe and I have been using 32-hole 26" LM rims laced to 48-hole Suzue
hubs since early 2004 (I didn't have any 36-hole LM prototypes at the
time I built the wheels). My wheel (now, on the Goiter) is still
perfectly true. Joe will have to comment on his wheel performance.

Dave

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It seems like the wheel would also roll flatter on the ground, since the
sidwealls are spread out farther, allowing for a more grippy, smoother
ride. Is that the case?

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The 24" 36 hole DH rims are in stock now, as well as the 26" rims, and I
am taking orders for wheels using KH, Profile, Suzue, or UDC hubs.

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SurlyDave said:

* Luddites will have to do the metric-to-inch conversion.*

Insult ... or annoyance quip ?

'Conversion tool' (http://www.sciencemadesimple.net/conversions.html)

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or,
http://tinyurl.com/dmyjl

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is there a chance the Endomorph tyre will be out for 24" rims? or did i
read somwhere that it will only be available for 26"

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cool i did too i just order it from unicycle.com onza 24

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jagur said:

*is there a chance the Endomorph tyre will be out for 24" rims? or did
i read somwhere that it will only be available for 26" *

Last time I talked with Surly they said there is currently nothing
planned for a 24" version.

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DigitalDave said:

*Insult ... or annoyance quip ?

'Conversion tool' (http://www.sciencemadesimple.net/conversions.html)
*

No offense was intended. I'm a luddite in many regards. Should have
used a smilie, I guess.

Nor was your request annoying. But, I use metric measurements in my
professional and personal work whenever it's appropriate. Most of the
world, outside of the USA, does. So, I make a point to reinforce the
use of a more universal (and logical) measurement system. Of course, I
did use "psi" as my unit of pressure. I'm guessing most of you don't
think in terms of "bar" or "kg/cm2" units. Or do you?

Dave

Here's a pic of the Nokian on a proto rim.

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jagur said:

*is there a chance the Endomorph tyre will be out for 24" rims? or did
i read somwhere that it will only be available for 26" *

The Endomorph is only available in the 26" size.

A high-volume 24" Surly tire will probably be introduced in the future,
but I'm not going to give specifics at this time. We still have to use
designed-for-DH tires for a while.

Tires are very expensive to produce....especially oddball stuff like the
Endomorph. No tooling exists for tires this size. Special machines and
unique moulds have to be built to make it all happen. So, we can't pump
out different sizes and tread patterns as fast as we'd like to.

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Catboy said:

*It seems like the wheel would also roll flatter on the ground, since
the sidwealls are spread out farther, allowing for a more grippy,
smoother ride. Is that the case? *

The tire does flatten out and should give you more traction compared to
a tire on a narrower rim at the same pressure. Smoother? That's hard
to quantify. I don't notice much of a difference in smoothness.

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So is anyone actually making 3.7" frames? having beaten the [censored] out of
everything i've ridden so far (cotter-less cranks and 10ft drops dont
necissarily go well together) i'm in desperate need of upgrades 😄

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SurlyDave said:

*The Endomorph is only available in the 26" size.

A high-volume 24" Surly tire will probably be introduced in the
future, but I'm not going to give specifics at this time. *

damn, im now im stuck in the middle....cool that that the rim is in both
sizes though. A 26" tyre would be so fast but a 24" Endo would be the
most beloved in the MUni world since its more "all around"

This happened before with the 3.0 tyre's......back in 2000 there were
not any high production frames that fit a 3.0 and look at it now.

heres to hoping it does come out.

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SurlyDave said:

*I'm guessing most of you don't think in terms of "bar" or "kg/cm2"
units. Or do you?
*

I Do and everybody in Sweden does.

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SurlyDave --

Your photo shows a machined brake track, but the distributor's website
states "Disk brake only", despite showing a silver sidewall in the (one)
photo. Does the 24" have a machined brake track? If so, is that true
for all the versions of the 24"?

Thanks in advance!

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