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  1. Phil Cook said:
    Quoted message said:
    davek said:

    John B wrote:
    > However as it has the same threading as the sprocket its use is limited.

    It's up to you, but personally, I wouldn't chance it. Chain coming
    off, sprocket unscrewing etc. at speed on a fixie is supposed to be an
    interesting [1] event, and a new track hub and spokes are cheap
    compared to new skin.

    Quoted message said:

    [1] For several bloody and painful values of interesting.

    I rode a couple of winters with a fixed on a seven speed freewheel hub
    without a lockring - except as a spacer. The sprocket gets screwed on
    /very/ tightly by riding and you can put a lot of back pressure on it.
    You are never likely to want to put enough pressure on it to cause it
    to unscrew. I once had a chain jump off due to bad chainline and a
    cheap sprocket.

    You're me you are. Except I've ridden like it for must be five years.

    Quoted message said:


    For a drop handlebar machine fit two brakes; you are going to want two
    hoods to ride on.

    Troo.

    Tim

  2. ">

    Quoted message said:

    For a drop handlebar machine fit two brakes; you are going to want two
    hoods to ride on.

    When I was a lad we rode one-brake fixies with a second hood on the other
    side (i.e. a brake lever without the lever bit) - looked pretty cool and
    gave you that "balanced look"

    Rob

  3. m-gineering said:
    Pete Whelan said:

    A lockring is the opposite thread (lefthanded) and slightly less
    diameter than the sprocket thread, otherwise how does it go on. I don't
    know of any 'lockrings' suitable for the sprocket threads

    whether it is effective is open to debate, but any LH bracket cup
    lockring will fit.

    It is effective. That's how the sprocket is mounted on by fixed
    tricycle. Many moons ago, the chain broke and wrapped itself around the
    sprocket until it jammed. The wheel locked and I slid to a atop. The
    sprocket and lock ring remained tightly done up. I fact, I don't really
    know why it's traditional to have opposite threads for cycle fixed
    sprockets - same thread locknuts are common in many other (non cycling)
    applications. I suppose opposite threads are an advantage if everything
    isn't done up tightly in the first place, but a correctly installed RH
    thread locknut does the job perfectly.

    --
    Andrew

  4. Mark said:


    iakobski said:
    Quoted message said:

    > I had wondered what prevented the whole lot unscrewing under
    > backpedaling :~)

    Under "normal" use - ie if you have at least one brake and don't try
    anything clever, then two threaded the same way will hold tight.
    However, if they unscrew it will be catastrophic, and will certainly
    happen in an emergency situation, making it far worse. So good advice
    would be: don't do it.

    What exactly does happen? I have very little exposure to fixed wheel
    bikes but my guess would be that the sprocket unscrews and jams the
    chain against the dropout or stays, locking the rear wheel and putting
    the rider on the deck very quickly.

    Its happened to me on a few of occasions.
    You suddenly find yourself with no backward pressure as the sprocket
    unscrews so you have to quickly pedal forward again - so long as there's
    no brick wall or ditch in front of you,

    On other occasions the sprocket has just unscrewed and fallen onto the
    axle, again losing all drive., but in this case no way to tighten teh
    sprocket up again.

    It makes a good case for fitting two brakes, or using a proper track hub
    and lockring.

    John B

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    Mark said:


    iakobski said:

    >> I had wondered what prevented the whole lot unscrewing under
    >> backpedaling :~)

    Under "normal" use - ie if you have at least one brake and don't try
    anything clever, then two threaded the same way will hold tight.
    However, if they unscrew it will be catastrophic, and will certainly
    happen in an emergency situation, making it far worse. So good advice
    would be: don't do it.

    What exactly does happen? I have very little exposure to fixed wheel
    bikes but my guess would be that the sprocket unscrews and jams the
    chain against the dropout or stays, locking the rear wheel and putting
    the rider on the deck very quickly.

    Its happened to me on a few of occasions.
    You suddenly find yourself with no backward pressure as the sprocket
    unscrews so you have to quickly pedal forward again - so long as there's
    no brick wall or ditch in front of you,

    On other occasions the sprocket has just unscrewed and fallen onto the
    axle, again losing all drive., but in this case no way to tighten teh
    sprocket up again.

    It makes a good case for fitting two brakes, or using a proper track hub
    and lockring.

    John B

    I use one of these with a Miche sprocket as it has an adaptor that can be
    fitted with threadlock then a bottom bracket lockring to hold it all
    together.

    http://www.trackcycling.co.uk/shop/detail.php?id=223
    http://www.trackcycling.co.uk/shop/detail.php?id=17

    never had it screw off while riding in fact it's a bugger to remove.

    cheers
    Jon_H

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