fixie skills

dej said:

gday,
so i been riding my fixie to work for the past 2 weeks..its a 35km round
trip with a few 2-300m hills at the start of the day on the way to work, and
at the end of the day on the way home..
i'm just running a front brake, and i've nearly worn the pads (which were
near new 2 weeks ago) to about 50% of their life..
The 1st day i was on the brake all the time, and have slowly used it less,
but still use it quite a bit when heading down hills (specially those past
shopping centres etc).

I've read some guides on slowing down etc, i try and backpedal though i find
it isnt very smooth, and kinda hurts the knees a bit. Any hints to make
things a bit easier? Practice is one of course, but any techniques in
particular?

Also discovered trying a bunnyhop aint easy when you cant coast🙁 Is it even
possible?
thanks,
gb

I can't help, and in fact I've only ridden a fixie once (but loved it).
I found the backpedalling thing not too bad - but I was on a velodrome,
not spinning down a hill past some shops!

So, *applause* well done on your progress so far and I hope you get some
good advice.

Tam

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dej said:

gday,
so i been riding my fixie to work for the past 2 weeks..its a 35km round
trip with a few 2-300m hills at the start of the day on the way to work,
and
at the end of the day on the way home..
i'm just running a front brake, and i've nearly worn the pads (which were
near new 2 weeks ago) to about 50% of their life..
The 1st day i was on the brake all the time, and have slowly used it
less,
but still use it quite a bit when heading down hills (specially those
past
shopping centres etc).

I've read some guides on slowing down etc, i try and backpedal though i
find
it isnt very smooth, and kinda hurts the knees a bit. Any hints to make
things a bit easier? Practice is one of course, but any techniques in
particular?

Also discovered trying a bunnyhop aint easy when you cant coast🙁 Is it
even
possible?
thanks,
gb

I can't help, and in fact I've only ridden a fixie once (but loved it).
I found the backpedalling thing not too bad - but I was on a velodrome,
not spinning down a hill past some shops!

So, *applause* well done on your progress so far and I hope you get some
good advice.

Tam

Thanks🙂
The 1st time i ever rode a fixie, was two weeks ago (rode it the 17 and a
bit kms to work)
I rekon its great for commuting, no hassles with gears being a bit out of
whack etc

I've put around 2500km on my fixie in the last year and a bit, mainly for commuting.

I have two brakes and little wear on the pads.

Downhill, better than backpedalling is trying to go with the flow and spin faster, backpedalling is good at low speeds (and without hills), much harder at high speeds to go around and holdback.

I tend to use the gear to trim speed, and brakes to stop only. Been m,eaning to put a computer on, am very interested in top speed and therefore cadence that I do actuall acheive on the downhills.

dej said:

... i try and backpedal though i find
it isnt very smooth, and kinda hurts the knees a bit. Any hints to make
things a bit easier? Practice is one of course, but any techniques in
particular?

The thing I've found that works for me is to make your legs heavy but try and keep them spinning smooth. This is what I do to slow. Then when I want to stop (running brakeless) that's when the effort kicks in and I use a mixture of my body weight & muscle to resist the cranks while still keeping ("trying" sometimes) good pedalling form. And if I need to pull up in a hurry, I throw in a track skid or 2. Though this is rare. I wouldn't call what I do "back pedalling". That conjures up a vision of Michael Jackson’s moon walk on a bike:p

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i'm just running a front brake, and i've nearly worn the pads (which were
near new 2 weeks ago) to about 50% of their life..

What pads are you using? Rims? 50% wear in 2 weeks on any bike sounds
excessive to me. I have Kool-Stop salmons (front brake only), and they have
a couple thousand km on them and are still very meaty. Plus they don't eat
rims, leave black gunk, not work in the wet...

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I've read some guides on slowing down etc, i try and backpedal though i

find

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it isnt very smooth, and kinda hurts the knees a bit. Any hints to make
things a bit easier? Practice is one of course, but any techniques in
particular?

Not sure about braking, but I know there are other guides at 63xc.org. I use
my front brake for everything but speed trimming and low speed stopping most
of the time. Maybe practising skipping and skidding would help you build
resistance, try them on dirt/wet tarmac to get the feel for it first.

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Also discovered trying a bunnyhop aint easy when you cant coast🙁 Is it

even

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possible?

It's possible, you need to start the hop ~45 degrees earlier. Mine are still
very low and very messy, and not at speed.

I'm currently attempting to master backwards circles. Best effort to date:
180 degrees. Think I need to work on left foot forward trackstands more.

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I tend to use the gear to trim speed, and brakes to stop only. Been
m,eaning to put a computer on, am very interested in top speed and
therefore cadence that I do actuall acheive on the downhills.

I worked out that I was doing 180-185rpm coming down a hill at 61km/hr
geared at 42/16 on 700x28 tyres.

http://sheldonbrown.com/gears/ helps out with the math.

JayWoo said:

The thing I've found that works for me is to make your legs heavy but try and keep them spinning smooth. This is what I do to slow. Then when I want to stop (running brakeless) that's when the effort kicks in and I use a mixture of my body weight & muscle to resist the cranks while still keeping ("trying" sometimes) good pedalling form. And if I need to pull up in a hurry, I throw in a track skid or 2. Though this is rare. I wouldn't call what I do "back pedalling". That conjures up a vision of Michael Jackson’s moon walk on a bike:p

I think Jaywoo has the right idea and i'll add my two cents. If i am not "actively" pedaling i will make my legs "heavy" between 7 and 11 o'clock on the pedalling cycle. Definitely dont try to back pedal to slow or push backwards with your knees. You will have no knees in about a week!
I think it is one of those things you become in tune with over time. With a bit of time you will be doing trackskids etc with no worries and it is true, you can stop quicker with no brakes than with a front brake!!

If you're in melbourne and looking to pick up some skills, join us for a ride. Sat mornings, 7.30am, corner of Swanston and Elgin St (behind melb uni).

Best way to pick up skills is to watch others pull their sh!t.

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Cheers
Koon

byron27 said:

I think Jaywoo has the right idea and i'll add my two cents. If i am not "actively" pedaling i will make my legs "heavy" between 7 and 11 o'clock on the pedalling cycle. Definitely dont try to back pedal to slow or push backwards with your knees. You will have no knees in about a week!
I think it is one of those things you become in tune with over time. With a bit of time you will be doing trackskids etc with no worries and it is true, you can stop quicker with no brakes than with a front brake!!

Skidding and skipping become easy with a bit of practice. The biggest hurdle is learning to get the weight off your back wheel by leaning forward. It only needs to be momentary - enough to unweight the wheel. Just seems counterintiutive to lean towards where you are trying to stop.

I got the feel for this on the looseish gravel on the bike path (like near Birrarung Marr if your Melb).

I still use the front brake for slowing down on hills. I don't think my knees would last if I didn't. And the only comments I have heard from others about bunny hopping on a fixie are not to try it. It is enough trouble trying to cross a gutter at a stop.

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Perilous :eek:

Don't try this on bumpy surfaces.

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With a bit of time you will be doing trackskids etc with no worries and
it is true, you can stop quicker with no brakes than with a front
brake!!

I hope you're joking. For starters the rear wheel will never have the
stopping power of the front and a locked wheel has less braking potential
than a moving one.
I've been commuting for over a year fixed and have no intention of losing
the front brake, it doesn't get used much but when it does it's a life
saver. Plus you can ride so much faster knowing it's there and stoppies
into traffic lights let you put your feet where you want them for a traffic
stand.

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Also discovered trying a bunnyhop aint easy when you cant coast🙁 Is it

even

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possible?
thanks,

Anythings possible, someone on another forum was talking about a guy riding
down stairs backwards on a fixie. I've done a bit of off road racing on my
fixie and you learn to do most things from whatever position your pedals
happen to be in.

Doing jumps is still a bit tricky, when you're in the air you have a
tendency to stop pedaling and landing with not enough cadence and your bum
off the seat can get interesting.