Flavor Extracts

"Jon" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Hey everyone,

I am trying to lower my sugar intake. But I find that diet (saccrin, aspertame, sucralose) sodas
taste horrible. Crystal light tastes great but give me a headache 🙁. I have tried koolaid powder
with artificial sugars and I dont care for it.

Then I tried splenda with ICE TEA Success!! I found that bioled tea leaves with water and Splenda
is also good.

As you can see i'm still experimenting.

As I walked through my Smart and Final I saw the extract section had more than just the plain
vanilla extract: Ones of interest were: Orange, Strawberry, Peppermint, I think rootbeer as well
was there.

But looking at the back I see that these have a very high alcohol content. Around 83% by volume.

Doing some math (please correct me if i'm wrong).

If I round up the alcohol by volume up to 100% for the extract. Then assuming 1 teaspoon flavors
2 quarts

There are 192 teaspoons in a quart @ 2 quarts = 384 teaspoons

1tsp/384tsp = 0.002604

So 0.26% alcohol by volume

This seems to be close to the alcohol content of a non-alcoholic beer. Would this be safe to
consume on a regular basis. With no short/longterm concequences. I know that this would in no way
make you drunk but i'm concerned if i would use it on a regular basis.

Other ideas: I'm looking for a non sweetened flavoring I can experiment with.

This isn't going to hurt you. If you are looking for flavors, check out this site:
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(Jon) said:

So 0.26% alcohol by volume

This seems to be close to the alcohol content of a non-alcoholic beer. Would this be safe to
consume on a regular basis. With no short/longterm concequences. I know that this would in no way
make you drunk but i'm concerned if i would use it on a regular basis.

Deifnately an invitation for liver damage, yesiree.

-sw

Jon said:

Hey everyone,

I am trying to lower my sugar intake. But I find that diet (saccrin, aspertame, sucralose) sodas
taste horrible. Crystal light tastes great but give me a headache 🙁. I have tried koolaid powder
with artificial sugars and I dont care for it.

Then I tried splenda with ICE TEA Success!!

Diet Rite sodas are now made in part with Splenda.

Brian Rodenborn

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Quoted message said:

Hey everyone,

I am trying to lower my sugar intake. But I find that diet (saccrin, aspertame, sucralose) sodas
taste horrible. Crystal light tastes great but give me a headache 🙁. I have tried koolaid powder
with artificial sugars and I dont care for it.

Then I tried splenda with ICE TEA Success!! I found that bioled tea leaves with water and Splenda
is also good.

As you can see i'm still experimenting.

As I walked through my Smart and Final I saw the extract section had more than just the plain
vanilla extract: Ones of interest were: Orange, Strawberry, Peppermint, I think rootbeer as well
was there.

But looking at the back I see that these have a very high alcohol content. Around 83% by volume.

Doing some math (please correct me if i'm wrong).

If I round up the alcohol by volume up to 100% for the extract. Then assuming 1 teaspoon flavors
2 quarts

There are 192 teaspoons in a quart @ 2 quarts = 384 teaspoons

1tsp/384tsp = 0.002604

So 0.26% alcohol by volume

This seems to be close to the alcohol content of a non-alcoholic beer. Would this be safe to
consume on a regular basis. With no short/longterm concequences. I know that this would in no way
make you drunk but i'm concerned if i would use it on a regular basis.

Other ideas: I'm looking for a non sweetened flavoring I can experiment with.

Extracts won't give you what you're looking for here. Instead, try some of the sugar free Torani (or
similar) syrups. I am diabetic, so I am familiar with your plight! I love Iced tea, which is my
drink of choice besides water. But every now and then I use the sugar free blackberry syrup or
strawberry syrup to make an Italian cream soda. You can do it without the cream too. I also use the
sugar free vanilla in latte, and it's quite good...add a bit of the Vietnamese cinnamon from
Penzey's and it's heaven. As for soda, the only soda I care for is the diet Hansen's grapefruit and
black cherry. No aftertaste!

kimberly

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Quoted message said:

Hey everyone,

I am trying to lower my sugar intake. But I find that diet (saccrin, aspertame, sucralose) sodas
taste horrible. Crystal light tastes great but give me a headache 🙁. I have tried koolaid powder
with artificial sugars and I dont care for it.

Then I tried splenda with ICE TEA Success!! I found that bioled tea leaves with water and Splenda
is also good.

<snip>

First, just so you know, splenda *is* sucralose. From the splenda.com website:

How is SPLENDA® Brand Sweetener made? SPLENDA® is the brand name for the ingredient sucralose.
It is made by a patented multi-step process that starts with cane sugar and converts it to a
no calorie, non-carbohydrate sweetener.

Perhpas the problem with the soda with sucralose wasn't the sucralose, but something else.
Maybe try a different brand or flavor. Also worth mentioning... switching from full calorie to
diet soda takes some patience. When I went from regular to diet soda, the diet stuff tasted
nasty. I've got to the point now where I'm the other way around and the regular stuff is way
too sweet and syrupy. Give it a month or so. Also, try different brands. Most diet sodas taste
good to me, except diet coke which I think is horrible, but then again, I never liked coke...

Anyhow, not sure on the consumption of extracts...

However, since you liked the splenda in the tea... Get the regular unsweetened packets of kool-
aid (not the stuff with artificial sweetener or sugar already added) and use splenda instead
of the cup of sugar that is called for. Just make sure you use the amount of splenda that will
give equiv. sweetness to one cup of sugar.

Another thing I've done in the past is mix up 1 of the unsweetened packets of kool-aid,
splenda equal to 1 cup of sugar, and enough water to make a sort of syrup. I cannot remember
how much water. I know that it was no more than 1 cup, but it seems like it may have been
less. Then, I added this to canned sparkling club soda to make fruit-flavored sodas.

In rec.food.cooking said:

Hey everyone,

Quoted message said:

I am trying to lower my sugar intake. But I find that diet (saccrin, aspertame, sucralose) sodas
taste horrible. Crystal light tastes great but give me a headache 🙁. I have tried koolaid powder
with artificial sugars and I dont care for it.

Maybe drinking water would be an acceptable alternative? Why do you need to put flavorings in it?

Quoted message said:

Then I tried splenda with ICE TEA Success!! I found that bioled tea leaves with water and Splenda
is also good.

If you drink good tea, there is no need for any sweetener. You would do well to get away from the
"not sweet = not good" trap you seem to be caught in.

Quoted message said:

This seems to be close to the alcohol content of a non-alcoholic beer. Would this be safe to
consume on a regular basis. With no short/longterm concequences. I know that this would in no way
make you drunk but i'm concerned if i would use it on a regular basis.

I'd be concerned that you have damaged taste buds from all the artificial glop you seem to consume.

Try drinking plain spring water for a month. Then go back to the chemical-laced stuff you mention,
and see if maybe you are now satisfied with pure, refreshing, delicious water.

--
...I'm an air-conditioned gypsy...

- The Who

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Extracts won't give you what you're looking for here. Instead, try some of the sugar free Torani
(or similar) syrups.

For the original poster, a large selection of Torani is also available at Smart and Final.

Charlie

Quoted message said:

I am diabetic, so I am familiar with your plight! I love Iced tea, which is my drink of choice
besides water. But every now and then I use the sugar free blackberry syrup or strawberry syrup to
make an Italian cream soda. You can do it without the cream too. I also use the sugar free vanilla
in latte, and it's quite good...add a bit of the Vietnamese cinnamon from Penzey's and it's
heaven. As for soda, the only soda I care for is the diet Hansen's grapefruit and black cherry. No
aftertaste!

kimberly

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of InterGalactic Usenet Enterprises said:

Maybe drinking water would be an acceptable alternative? Why do you need to put flavorings in it?

I drink lots of water, and I like it fine: I'm a very thirsty person, me. Since we have soft water
in Stockholm, I drink tap water as it is and several cups of it every day. However, I do like to
also have something flavoured now and again. Unsweetened tea will do for some of it, but I still
have a sweet tooth, though I also try to cut down on my sugar intake.
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In rec.food.cooking said:

Hey everyone,

Quoted message said:

I am trying to lower my sugar intake. But I find that diet (saccrin, aspertame, sucralose) sodas
taste horrible. Crystal light tastes great but give me a headache 🙁. I have tried koolaid
powder with artificial sugars and I dont care for it.

Maybe drinking water would be an acceptable alternative? Why do you need to put flavorings in it?

Why not? A little flavor is nice now and then.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Then I tried splenda with ICE TEA Success!! I found that bioled tea leaves with water and
Splenda is also good.

If you drink good tea, there is no need for any sweetener. You would do well to get away from the
"not sweet = not good" trap you seem to be caught in.

It's a matter of personal preference, actually. The OP didn't say they don't like things that aren't
sweetened, but asked for advice about how to flavor some beverages. You're making alot of
assumptions.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

This seems to be close to the alcohol content of a non-alcoholic beer. Would this be safe to
consume on a regular basis. With no short/longterm concequences. I know that this would in no
way make you drunk but i'm concerned if i would use it on a regular basis.

I'd be concerned that you have damaged taste buds from all the artificial glop you seem to
consume.

Try drinking plain spring water for a month. Then go back to the chemical-laced stuff you mention,
and see if maybe you are now satisfied with pure, refreshing, delicious water.

Again, pretty presumptuous. If I ask about the best chocolate to use for a chocolate cake, it
doesn't mean I eat chocolate cake day in and day out.

kimberly

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DRB said:

"Jon" <[email hidden]> wrote

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I am trying to lower my sugar intake. But I find that diet (saccrin, aspertame, sucralose) sodas
taste horrible.

First, just so you know, splenda *is* sucralose.

I am prepared to believe that others can actually detect an 'aftertaste' in sugar substitutes.
However, I really wonder if this might not be a project for some blind taste-test experiments. I
have a friend who "can't stand" diet soda. Yet, she's perfectly happy with clear, flavored, aspartame-
sweetened drinks. Since soft drinks are little more than water, artificial color, artificial flavor,
and sweetener, it seems odd (to me) that Diet Pepsi is awful, but if it's not brown, it tastes fine.

Evidently the OP has rejected 'artificial' sweeteners and been attracted to the sugar-like
presentation of Splenda in part because it doesn't say 'sucralose' on the package. Sort of like
saying "I can't take aspirin, so I use Bayer."

Thanks for all your reply s guys!!
good suggestions I think I'm going to try some of those flavorings
from that website. As well as look at the Tonri section at smart and
final 🙂

And to answer some of the other threads.

Ya I know Splenda is Sucralose. Seems I was a little unclear on this point

I don't know why but the Splenda flavored soda's taste horrible. Maybe they use way too much
sucralose that there is an appreciable aftertaste.

I have tried splenda with unsweetened koolaid. It was different. It had an sucralose aftertaste once
I used enough splenda to cover up the bitter taste of the koolaid ( I played with different amounts
with no success ). 🙁
- thanks for the suggestion though.

Since in tea I don't have to use that much splenda to sweeten it (10 packets for 2 quarts). Its good

Drinking plain water is okay every once and a while. I have tried going just water for a long time a
while ago. It was like a month. I then took a drink of a soda and it was like the DRINK OF THE GODS.
It was extremely good. Wish i did like water on a regular basis though. Sadly its just not true.

il Tue, 10 Feb 2004 19:32:58 GMT, Frogleg ha scritto:

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On Tue, 10 Feb 2004 00:50:06 GMT, "DRB" <[email hidden]> wrote:

I am prepared to believe that others can actually detect an 'aftertaste' in sugar substitutes.
However, I really wonder if this might not be a project for some blind taste-test experiments. I
have a friend who "can't stand" diet soda. Yet, she's perfectly happy with clear, flavored, aspartame-
sweetened drinks. Since soft drinks are little more than water, artificial color, artificial
flavor, and sweetener, it seems odd (to me) that Diet Pepsi is awful, but if it's not brown, it
tastes fine.

[snip]

I think the research has been done. 20% of people can detect the aftertaste of saccharine. I read
all this years ago so can't give you a source. (more than likely New Scientist or BBC news.) I can
only handle it in dry Ginger Ale with yoghurt. It also tastes worse if heated.
--
Cheers, Loki [ Brevity is the soul of wit. W.Shakespeare ]

In rec.food.cooking said:

While frolicking around in rec.food.cooking, [email hidden] of InterGalactic Usenet
Enterprises said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Maybe drinking water would be an acceptable alternative? Why do you need to put flavorings in it?

I drink lots of water, and I like it fine: I'm a very thirsty person, me. Since we have soft water
in Stockholm, I drink tap water as it is and several cups of it every day. However, I do like to
also have something flavoured now and again. Unsweetened tea will do for some of it, but I still
have a sweet tooth, though I also try to cut down on my sugar intake.

Fair enough.

--
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- The Who

Jon saw Sally selling seashells by the seashore and told us all about
it on 11 Feb 2004 14:42:33 -0800:

Quoted message said:

Since in tea I don't have to use that much splenda to sweeten it (10 packets for 2
quarts). Its good

Drinking plain water is okay every once and a while. I have tried going just water for a long
time a while ago. It was like a month. I then took a drink of a soda and it was like the DRINK OF
THE GODS. It was extremely good. Wish i did like water on a regular basis though. Sadly its just
not true.

I used to be addicted to diet coke. Once I kicked the habit it tasted foul to me. I don't really
like softdrinks of any sort... I drink plain water, or unsweetened orange juice (with half water if
I'm drinking more than two glasses a day), or herbal teas. I love lemon herbal tea. No caffiene, no
chemicals, and if you leave it to get cold it would make a rather nice iced tea because it's still
totally drinkable - and it doesn't need any sweetening whatsoever! Peppermint tea is nice too for a
change, but horrible cold.

As to your question about 'extracts', you only need a VERY small amount of them at a time. One
teaspoon diluted into two litres or so means you're only getting a few drops in each glass. Don't
worry about the alcohol content.

Some people like fruit juice with mineral water, or mineral water with a squeeze of fresh lemon/lime
for a different flavour. That doesn't need extra sweetening...

[email hidden] (Jon) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

Quoted message said:

Hey everyone,

I am trying to lower my sugar intake. But I find that diet (saccrin, aspertame, sucralose) sodas
taste horrible. Crystal light tastes great but give me a headache 🙁. I have tried koolaid powder
with artificial sugars and I dont care for it.

Then I tried splenda with ICE TEA Success!! I found that bioled tea leaves with water and Splenda
is also good.

As you can see i'm still experimenting.

As I walked through my Smart and Final I saw the extract section had more than just the plain
vanilla extract: Ones of interest were: Orange, Strawberry, Peppermint, I think rootbeer as well
was there.

But looking at the back I see that these have a very high alcohol content. Around 83% by volume.

Doing some math (please correct me if i'm wrong).

If I round up the alcohol by volume up to 100% for the extract. Then assuming 1 teaspoon flavors
2 quarts

There are 192 teaspoons in a quart @ 2 quarts = 384 teaspoons

1tsp/384tsp = 0.002604

So 0.26% alcohol by volume

This seems to be close to the alcohol content of a non-alcoholic beer. Would this be safe to
consume on a regular basis. With no short/longterm concequences. I know that this would in no way
make you drunk but i'm concerned if i would use it on a regular basis.

Other ideas: I'm looking for a non sweetened flavoring I can experiment with.

To add some flavor to plain water, I buy the Walgreens brand of sugar free, non-carbonated flavored
water and add a splash to my glass. It can be difficult to find non-carbonated, flavored, sugar-free
water but this is it.

I also sometimes buy Glaceau Fruit Water (Trader Joes, Kroger). It has no calories, is sugar-free
and non-carbonated and is flavored with the essence of fruit (whatever that means). No artificial
sweeteners. Very good.