Foodtv racist?

notbob said:

Why is it there are no other ethnic cooking shows on foodtv other than
Italian? No Mexican, Chinese, Japanese, Thai, Indian, Middle Eastern,
etc, to be seen. Just Italian and the same ol' American slop recycled
over and over in a million guises by a couple dozen brainless dolts.
You can find a Chinese restaurant in even the most backwater hick town
in the US, but not a single Chinese cooking show. No wonder the food
network is going down the disposal.

nb

They should change the name to the Emeril Network. Enough "Bams"
already.

Rusty

notbob said:

Why is it there are no other ethnic cooking shows on foodtv other than
Italian? No Mexican, Chinese, Japanese, Thai, Indian, Middle Eastern,
etc, to be seen. Just Italian and the same ol' American slop recycled
over and over in a million guises by a couple dozen brainless dolts.
You can find a Chinese restaurant in even the most backwater hick town
in the US, but not a single Chinese cooking show. No wonder the food
network is going down the disposal.

nb

Well I guess we are luckier than I thought. We only get one food channel
out here in the sticks and that's BBC Food. I enjoy it... they have
shows about all types of cooking...

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Chatty Cathy

Chatty Cathy said:

notbob said:

Why is it there are no other ethnic cooking shows on foodtv other than
Italian? No Mexican, Chinese, Japanese, Thai, Indian, Middle Eastern,
etc, to be seen. Just Italian and the same ol' American slop recycled
over and over in a million guises by a couple dozen brainless dolts.
You can find a Chinese restaurant in even the most backwater hick town
in the US, but not a single Chinese cooking show. No wonder the food
network is going down the disposal.

nb

Well I guess we are luckier than I thought. We only get one food channel
out here in the sticks and that's BBC Food. I enjoy it... they have
shows about all types of cooking...

--
Cheers
Chatty Cathy

FoodTV is not the only network source of cooking shows in the U.S. The
Discovery Network, PBS, RFD-TV, Fine Living Network, DIY Network, Style
Network all carry cooking shows. I'm sure there are others I have
missed.

Plus local stations also carry some cooking shows.

Rusty

Chatty Cathy said:

Well I guess we are luckier than I thought. We only get one food channel
out here in the sticks and that's BBC Food. I enjoy it... they have
shows about all types of cooking...

Yes, so does our Public Broadcasting System (PBS). There's a longtime
running series called Yan Can Cook. Yan is kinda annoying, but at
least it's Asian cuisine. There've been others, too One on Hawaiian,
one on Thai, and a couple others. We've even had a couple Brit shows
over the years.

With the exception of Emeril's shows, which still manage to dumb down
how/what a real chef would cook, most of foodtv seems Hell bent on taking
us back to the 50's and highshool home-ec cooking.

nb

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notbob said:

Why is it there are no other ethnic cooking shows on foodtv other than
Italian? No Mexican, Chinese, Japanese, Thai, Indian, Middle Eastern,
etc, to be seen. Just Italian and the same ol' American slop recycled
over and over in a million guises by a couple dozen brainless dolts.
You can find a Chinese restaurant in even the most backwater hick town
in the US, but not a single Chinese cooking show. No wonder the food
network is going down the disposal.

nb

Ming Tsai used to have a pretty decent program, "East Meets West" on
FTV, but I haven't seen it for quite a while. I think I heard he's
still doing shows, but on PBS or some other cable channel. I agree,
with it's resources, FTV could really be something, but instead they
choose the likes of Sandra Lee who couldn't pour [censored] out of a boot if
the instructions were written on the heel.

<sigh>
Sandy

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Why is it there are no other ethnic cooking shows on foodtv other than
Italian? No Mexican, Chinese, Japanese, Thai, Indian, Middle Eastern,
etc, to be seen. Just Italian and the same ol' American slop recycled
over and over in a million guises by a couple dozen brainless dolts.
You can find a Chinese restaurant in even the most backwater hick town
in the US, but not a single Chinese cooking show. No wonder the food
network is going down the disposal.

nb

Like any other station, they're going for ratings. They probably don't think
enough people would want to watch ethnic cooking shows where one ethnic
group is the "hook" on the show.

They figure that most people are familiar enough with Italian to be
comfortable cooking that, but start waving a bok choy around, and they're
going to figure that people are doing to be too stupid to be able to figure
it out.

There are some bits and pieces of ethnic cooking now and then on the
different shows, but not particularly authentic. Americanized versions.
Which is probably what they figure the average viewer is going to want.

Personally, I'd love to see more ethnic cooking shows, but the other thing
I'd want is suggestions for ingredient substitutions for things that can't
be found in nowhere-America grocery stores. Or online sources, even. Sure,
I'd like to make it authentic if I can, but I can't fly in exotic
ingredients. I wouldn't want to watch a show knowing that the ingredients
aren't ever going to be available to me.

Donna

Rusty said:

FoodTV is not the only network source of cooking shows in the U.S. The
Discovery Network, PBS, RFD-TV, Fine Living Network, DIY Network, Style
Network all carry cooking shows. I'm sure there are others I have
missed.

I am aware of that, and have always been a bit jealous.. and I have
missed out on a lot of discussions here because I have never seen many
of the shows that you guys see.

Quoted message said:

Plus local stations also carry some cooking shows.

So do ours, but... they only have the odd show at the weekend. BBC Food
is only available to people who also have "pay-TV", which in our case is
via satellite... 50 channels and nothing much to watch 😉

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Chatty Cathy

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notbob said:

Why is it there are no other ethnic cooking shows on foodtv other than
Italian? No Mexican, Chinese, Japanese, Thai, Indian, Middle Eastern,
etc, to be seen. Just Italian and the same ol' American slop recycled
over and over in a million guises by a couple dozen brainless dolts.
You can find a Chinese restaurant in even the most backwater hick town
in the US, but not a single Chinese cooking show. No wonder the food
network is going down the disposal.

nb

Lack of interest? I don't watch foodtv but I know people who don't want
to be bothered with a lot of prep work (chopping) that's often integral
to Chinese stir-frying.
JMO.
--
-Barb
<http://jamlady.eboard.com> Updated 4-20-2006 with our visit
to Kramarczuk's.
"If it's not worth doing to excess, it's not worth doing at all."

notbob said:

Why is it there are no other ethnic cooking shows on foodtv other than
Italian? No Mexican, Chinese, Japanese, Thai, Indian, Middle Eastern,
etc, to be seen. Just Italian and the same ol' American slop recycled
over and over in a million guises by a couple dozen brainless dolts.
You can find a Chinese restaurant in even the most backwater hick town
in the US, but not a single Chinese cooking show. No wonder the food
network is going down the disposal.

nb

Um, Iron Chef?

notbob a écrit :

Quoted message said:

Why is it there are no other ethnic cooking shows on foodtv other than
Italian? No Mexican, Chinese, Japanese, Thai, Indian, Middle Eastern,
etc, to be seen. Just Italian and the same ol' American slop recycled
over and over in a million guises by a couple dozen brainless dolts.
You can find a Chinese restaurant in even the most backwater hick town
in the US, but not a single Chinese cooking show. No wonder the food
network is going down the disposal.

Canadian FoodTV has Martin Yan ("Chinatowns" and "Quick and Easy"😉 and
Kylie Kwong (Simply Magic) for Chinese cuisine, Christine Cushing
("Cook with Me" and "Live"😉 for Greek accents, Nigella for all goddess
worshippers and the usual fare (Bam, Screech girl and Jamie Oliver).
And that's only what on at this time.

http://www.foodtv.ca/ontv/showsatoz.aspx

Maybe that's because our immigrant ("et'nik"😉 population constitutes a
larger proportion of our overall population than yours does. And we
have much less Emeril, so it seems.

Or maybe you're right...FoodTV US is racist :-)

I would like to see more Beeb stuff.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/food/tv_and_radio/elizabethdavid_index.shtml

Denise~* said:

Um, Iron Chef?

Yeah, I thought of that, but it didn't show recipes and technique.
I'm just now getting into stirfry for my health and would like to
learn more. I don't need to know how to add a packet of spice mix to
a can of tomato sauce, which typically have the directions on both the
packet and the can. 😉

nb

D.Currie said:

Personally, I'd love to see more ethnic cooking shows, but the other thing
I'd want is suggestions for ingredient substitutions for things that can't
be found in nowhere-America grocery stores. Or online sources, even. Sure,
I'd like to make it authentic if I can, but I can't fly in exotic
ingredients. I wouldn't want to watch a show knowing that the ingredients
aren't ever going to be available to me.

I see your point. I have sometimes had to google for some of the
ingredients that have been posted in RFC recipes! At least here you can
ask for a substitution.
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Chatty Cathy

notbob said:

Why is it there are no other ethnic cooking shows on foodtv other than
Italian? No Mexican, Chinese, Japanese, Thai, Indian, Middle Eastern,
etc, to be seen. [snip]

Maybe they just miss out on signing up those cooks. Here in a major
U.S. TV market there are at least five other channels that have some
cooking shows in their lineups, and some of them feature ethnic
cooking. That's only the English-language channels, We also have
cooking shows in Spanish, Japanese and Chinese, which can be fun to
watch occasionally even if you can't understand what they're saying.
-aem

Food TV has gone right down the tubes in my opinion. I will not watch some
idiot say "BEAUTIFUL" 132 times in a half hour period. At first Martin Yan
was charming with his butchered Engrish but I just can't take it any more.
It is the same [censored] over and over. It would not call it TV anymore, rather
nauseating commercials interspersed with mediocre cooking.

F.J.

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D.Currie said:

Personally, I'd love to see more ethnic cooking shows, but the other
thing I'd want is suggestions for ingredient substitutions for things
that can't be found in nowhere-America grocery stores. Or online sources,
even. Sure, I'd like to make it authentic if I can, but I can't fly in
exotic ingredients. I wouldn't want to watch a show knowing that the
ingredients aren't ever going to be available to me.

I see your point. I have sometimes had to google for some of the
ingredients that have been posted in RFC recipes! At least here you can
ask for a substitution.
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Chatty Cathy

Sometimes it's hard enough trying to find ingredients that were readily
available in Chicago that I can't find in Colorado. I told my DH that next
time we go, I'm taking a 40 trailer to bring things back. He corrected me: a
40-foot refrigerated trailer.

But seriously, as much as I'd like to see authentic recipes, it doesn't do
any good unless I can actually buy the ingredients, or something close
enough. Regional ingredients are one thing -- usually you can find someplace
that will ship, if you're willing to pay. But if recipes call for something
from another country, it gets a little more tricky. I'd rather have the cook
tell me "If you can't buy [censored] where you are, yyy or zzz can be used. At
least then I've got an idea what the magic ingredient tastes like.

I had a recipe somewhere that called for Steen's Cane Syrup, and the only
place I can find it is online. I'm still curious as to whether it's worth
paying for shipping on canned goods, or whether I can use something else
instead. Right now, I don't even know what the recipe was for, but at the
time it sounded interesting.

Donna

notbob said:

Why is it there are no other ethnic cooking shows on foodtv.

What makes you think ethnicities are races... only ones think of
cookery as racist is another racist... 'talian ain't a race... although
one can argue they're a sub species. hehe

Sheldon

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Quoted message said:

Why is it there are no other ethnic cooking shows on foodtv other than
Italian? No Mexican, Chinese, Japanese, Thai, Indian, Middle Eastern,
etc, to be seen. Just Italian and the same ol' American slop recycled
over and over in a million guises by a couple dozen brainless dolts.
You can find a Chinese restaurant in even the most backwater hick town
in the US, but not a single Chinese cooking show. No wonder the food
network is going down the disposal.

nb

There is not a lot of variety on FoodTV these days. I generally just turn
it on for background noise these days. I did watch Bobby Flay make feta
burritos today. The recipes were easy to make and looked really good.
I'll agree, not a lot of variety on the network. Some Asian cooking
entails a LOT of preparation before cooking and I can kind of see why there
is not a lot of it on the show. The entire 1/2 hour segment would be on
prep work which is actually not such a bad idea. Show the prep segement
and then right after, show the next 1/2 hour segement with the actual
cooking and assembling of the pre-preped (sp) items.

When all else fails; There is always Sandra

Michael ///////////////ducking

D.Currie said:

Sometimes it's hard enough trying to find ingredients that were readily
available in Chicago that I can't find in Colorado. I told my DH that next
time we go, I'm taking a 40 trailer to bring things back. He corrected me: a
40-foot refrigerated trailer.

LOL. DH used to live in another town and when we go there occasionally
we make a bee-line for some of the food shops...

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Chatty Cathy

Michael 'Dog3' Lonergan said:

entails a LOT of preparation before cooking and I can kind of see why there
is not a lot of it on the show.

We've been watching close ups of someone chopping veggies for 20+
years. Should be no problem doing prep work.

nb