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  1. Hi, folks. Not been writing much because I've not been riding since I
    hurt my rib (Stunned in the Desert). More or less recovered, at last,
    but now Xmas, the winter festival that sounds like a dry skin
    complaint, is upon us.

    I have spent some time in the BMW motorcycle forum, mainly asking
    people to look out for my stolen brand new motorbike (now recovered,
    damaged) and I commented that much of the writing in that forum is very
    negative, complaining about servicing and warranty issues and the like.
    One person responded, "But who wants to read posts about what a great
    ride someone has had, and where they've been?"

    If you lot had been more frank with me, I could have saved all that
    effort writing those long winded ride reports. I now understand that
    no one would want to read what a great ride someone has had, and where
    they've been. I feel so ashamed, and humbly beseech your forgiveness.

    In the new year, I plan a series of posts carping on about some design
    problems I have identified with the concept of a one wheeled pedal
    powered vehicle, and suggestng ways of attaching a second wheel,
    brakes, and up to 21 selectable gears, to improve the riding
    experience. Frankly, I am surprised and disappointed that Kris Holm
    never spotted the gap in the market for these obvious improvements to
    his products.

    Yours in abject chagrin,

    Mike

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  2. Mikefule said:

    If you lot had been more frank with me, I could have saved all that
    effort writing those long winded ride reports. I now understand that
    no one would want to read what a great ride someone has had, and where
    they've been.

    Well my name has never been Frank...

    Where I post a writeup every now and then, I also sometimes wonder if
    it's worth the effort to spend nearly an hour on the keys and post it
    here, only to have it slide off the front page within 24 hours.

    But then again once I post, I keep a hawks' eye on 'who's online'
    (http://tinyurl.com/y9v2rz) for a few hours and notice that quite a few
    people seem to drift in and out of the thread/writeup that I've
    created. A couple of handfuls of users maybe stay on that thread for
    many minutes as they presumably read through it, of which only a
    fraction of those will reply to comment.

    Mikefule said:

    One person responded, "But who wants to read posts about what a great
    ride someone has had, and where they've been?"

    Writeups are enjoyable for those who can spend the time to read them.
    One user thanked me for a couple of my writeups with phrases like
    "Thanks for taking us with you" or "I think I rode with you through
    that forest". For that user and some others with visual imaginations, a
    few minutes of reading a writeup translates into an hour or two of an
    imaginary ride.

    They can then make comparisons to a similar ride that they may have had
    themselves, or it may have taken place in an environment that the
    reader has yet to try riding in, and maybe motivate them into doing so
    for real.

    The trouble with writeups is that they seem to be out of place in a
    chatty forum. Whereas people will be asking questions or making an
    observation about something and asking if anyone agrees etc, there is
    this writeup manifesting in a great big long post, of which some users
    will take one look without even scrolling down and then back out,
    thinking they haven't got the time.

    I still think writeups are worth it, even if only a handful of readers
    get to enjoy the full purpose of them.

    --
    gkmac

    "It's a marvellous thing to see, someone in full flight on the
    unicycle." - Stuart Maconie, Radio 2
    "Oh no! Both my toes have gone numb!" - Joe Hodges
    "You also met me gk! I was the one eating the sandwich!" - Adam Gayne
    "Act your tyre pressure, not your age." - rob.northcott
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  3. Haha. Your post gave me some serious giggles.
    Seriously tho, authough I sometimes struggle to read your ride reports
    due to my limited literacy, when I do manage to get through them I have
    a thoroughly enjoyable time.
    Trust me, there is plenty of posts regarding the servicing and warranty
    issues of our unicycles. Well at least there would be if we had any.
    The problem is, that we can so easily contact the people who
    designed/sold us our unicycles and work through any problems with them
    personally as apposed to airing out our grievences in a public forum.
    Kris Holm Unicycles and UDC are great examples of how a company can
    service its customer base in an efficient and friendly manner.

    We can all thank the fact that we are (mostly) very friendly people and
    are unlikely to complain at things not worth complaining about
    (unicycle related things anyways).

    In light of your comments, lets keep our community is such a wonderful
    way.
    And whatever you do, dont stop posting your ride reports.

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  4. And next to go would be the Roland Hope School of Unicycling, I suppose.
    Without the financial support you get from ride write-up royalties it's
    bound to fail.

    --
    harper

    -Greg Harper

    B L U E S H I F T

    *jc is the only main man. there can be no other.*
    Finally made it to my (n+1)th post....* TOTALLY AWESOME!!!*

    Quoted message said:

    <> Unicycle For the Chafing <><


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  5. Mikefule said:

    If you lot had been more frank with me, I could have saved all that
    effort writing those long winded ride reports. I now understand that
    no one would want to read what a great ride someone has had, and where
    they've been. I feel so ashamed, and humbly beseech your forgiveness.

    You're not going to find any forgiveness from me because I don't
    believe there was any wrong done.

    Your ride reports are always an enjoyable read. Frankly, they offer a
    nice diversion from the usual one or two line posts with multiple
    grammatical and spelling errors per line.

    Unfortunately, I don't usually have the time to try to figure out what
    your intentional mistakes are. I probably wouldn't be able to figure
    them out anyway. There are probably few people on this forum who have
    the smarts and the time to figure it out.

    I think the reason you ride reports don't stay up long is because most
    people, (like me) read them and then move on. Even if someone wants to
    try to figure out the mistakes they must pm you, which doesn't help
    keep your thread at the top of the pile.

    Maybe, the next time you do a writeup you could change the way you have
    the contest and make it so that people can discuss what they think is
    wrong in the thread rather than sending you a pm. This would keep it
    up much longer and it may create more interest.

    What ever you do please don’t stop your writeups! I am sure there are
    many others on this forum that enjoy reading them as much as I do.

    Hurry up and get better so we can hear about another ride!

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  6. You better be kidding.

    And by the way, this proves that one wheel is better than two.

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  7. I like your writeups, but most of the time I think they are too long for
    me so I just give up about half way through.

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  8. Wow, that BMW group must be unique. I belong to another motorcycle
    group, (for older Jap bikes), and most of the posts are either folks
    asking for and getting mechanical advice, or people posting beautifully
    written ride reports. Kind of like this forum here, actually. 😄

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  9. I must admit that I don't have time to read all your ride writeups (as
    I'm browsing these fora during job time) but I wish I had!
    Please keep on taking us into your rides. I love the "errors contest"
    though I'm not good at it (especially because of a lack of vocabulary,
    but your writeups are a good way to solve this issue😉 )

    --
    Zzagg

    Zzagg - Air Circus Team (Nantes)

    Living easy, living free...
    ...Season ticket on a one wheel ride.

    JJuggle said:

    Zzagg, I'm struggling with your English.

    :o 😉
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  10. Mikefule said:


    If you lot had been more frank with me, I could have saved all that
    effort writing those long winded ride reports.

    Ok, I'll be Frank. But you'll have to be Spencer 🙂

    I've used Newsgroups on the internet for about 7 years now, and, to be
    honest, this is probably the most friendly one I've found. No
    [censored], or backstabbing. Hardly any flaming. And only a couple of
    tossers. I think it must be something to do with unicycling itself
    that keeps people enthusiastic for all the ancillary sides of the sport
    (such as this).

    STM

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  11. Mikefule said:

    One person responded, "But who wants to read posts about what a great
    ride someone has had, and where they've been?"

    It's a really funny difference between both communities...

    And as we talk about it... Mike, even though english is not my mother
    tongue
    (but I'm doing well I think 😉 )and despite I'm mostly unable to solve
    your quizzes, I always enjoy your write-ups. Thanks! 🙂

    -Jedrzej

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  12. Quoted message said:

    But who wants to read posts about what a great ride someone has had, and
    where they've been?

    I DO!

    I can't travel as much as I want to, so I read travel descriptions.
    I can't unicycle as much as I want to, so I read writeups.

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  13. Mikefule said:

    One person responded, "But who wants to read posts about what a great
    ride someone has had, and where they've been?"

    Sometimes I'm not exactly thrilled with being part of the 'BMW crowd.'
    I've owned several and still have two, one undergoing full restoration
    and I think they're wonderful bikes but, the owners are often snobbish
    and dull. When I go to a BMW rally, it's usually a bunch of old, fat
    men who stand around, talk about their bikes and go off to bed by 9:00
    p.m. When I've gone to Harley Davidson rallys it's a bunch of fat, old
    men with all of their spouses/significant others who drink and whoop it
    up around the campfire 'til all hours of the morning and things can get
    pretty wild. Definitely a more fun crowd. I just wish I didn't hate
    their loud, obnoxious, poorly designed, ill handling motorcycles.

    Mikefule said:

    In the new year, I plan a series of posts carping on about some design
    problems I have identified with the concept of a one wheeled pedal
    powered vehicle, and suggestng ways of attaching a second wheel,
    brakes, and up to 21 selectable gears, to improve the riding
    experience. Frankly, I am surprised and disappointed that Kris Holm
    never spotted the gap in the market for these obvious improvements to
    his products.

    Sheer GENIUS !!! Why hasn't somebody thought of this before? These
    could be the advances in unicycles that really get them globally
    accepted.

    j-n said:

    even though english is not my mother tongue
    (but I'm doing well I think 😉 )

    I'd say you're doing VERY well.

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    tell you different' - Kurt Vonnegut
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  14. semach.the.monkey said:

    And only a couple of tossers.

    Ooh, name names. Let's have a heated debate.😄

    Not everyone appears to have spotted that I was being drily ironic in a
    self-mocking post modern sort of way.

    My point was that those in the BMW forum who think there is no place
    for such write ups don't know what they're missing. One does because I
    posted a reference to this forum in that one and he did a Google and
    found my post in this one criticising that one. Mikefule fails his
    social skills test again.:o

    Thanks for all the sympathy for having my brand new motorcycle stolen,
    by the way.

    Oh, there wasn't any sympathy. Fair enough.🙁

    Bike now recovered with extensive damage and may be a write off. Early
    forensic reports suggest that it has been in close contact with thick
    gormless stupid mindless retarded chavvy low-life thieving cretins for
    whom hanging is too good and flogging is the only language they
    understand. (Note to Naomi - that may be tautological, but on this
    occasion justified for emphasis.😉 )

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  15. Mikefule said:

    Not everyone appears to have spotted that I was being drily ironic in a
    self-mocking post modern sort of way.

    Thanks for all the sympathy for having my brand new motorcycle stolen,
    by the way.

    Oh, there wasn't any sympathy. Fair enough.🙁

    Bike now recovered with extensive damage and may be a write off. Early
    forensic reports suggest that it has been in close contact with thick
    gormless stupid mindless retarded chavvy low-life thieving cretins for
    whom hanging is too good and flogging is the only language they
    understand. (Note to Naomi - that may be tautological, but on this
    occasion justified for emphasis.😉 )

    I think self mockery and subtle irony just does not come across well on
    the internet. You must have noticed that by now, so I will assume
    you're being subtly ironic again.

    I wasn't sympathetic about your motorbike, I was horrified! Your lovely
    new motorbike stolen???? Is there no God? (You see GK, that's the only
    way to have your thread stay on the front page for a while - to include
    a debate about God - or rules on the forum). Sorry. Seriously though, I
    am totally gutted for you.

    If you ever find the (er chappy) that did it, hold him down until I can
    get there to give him a good kicking.

    --
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  16. 🙂

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  17. I like your writeups, though I basically read -anything,- but they're
    cool. It's not exactly MUni-ing with you, but it's -watching- you
    MUni(I do the same thing with Nancy Drew!) so it's close enough.
    Everyone loves your writeups...so do I, if I ever wrote one, or a lot,
    they would all be called "My trip to the Beach on the Unicycle" or "My
    trip to the park on the beach on my unicycle" but it's good enough.
    Though I forget the details, so I can't write them down anyways.

    Edit: the motorcycle--is that the device you were talking about? Isn't
    it -before- New Year's?

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    What's up with really long signatures? 🙂
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  18. As long as we're comparing fora here, I'm a frequent visitor to a
    Volkswagen forum (I've always been a VW fanatic too) and as long as you
    contribute to a technical forum with technical questions and answers,
    things are just fine. But, as soon as somebody posts virtually
    anything in a general discussion forum the first dozen or so replies
    typically request that the original poster have intercourse with
    him/herself and then die. I'm sometimes amazed at the out and out
    rudeness that people exhibit under the cloak of anonymity that the
    internet provides. It makes me appreciate this forum each and every
    day. We should get an award for having the nicest forum on the
    internet.

    --
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    tell you different' - Kurt Vonnegut
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  19. gkmac said:

    Where I post a writeup every now and then, I also sometimes wonder if
    it's worth the effort to spend nearly an hour on the keys and post it
    here, only to have it slide off the front page within 24 hours.

    But I bet you're glad of them when you reread them years later and get
    to relive the memories. For example, I'm glad I posted an RR of my
    first 30 mile unicycle ride (back in 1994) to the unicycle mailing
    list, because it means I can still go back and remind myself what it
    was like.

    I write RR's primarily for my own benefit, but once I've written them I
    figure I might as well share them.

    Quoted message said:

    But then again once I post, I keep a hawks' eye on 'who's online'
    (http://tinyurl.com/y9v2rz) for a few hours and notice that quite a few
    people seem to drift in and out of the thread/writeup that I've
    created. A couple of handfuls of users maybe stay on that thread for
    many minutes as they presumably read through it, of which only a
    fraction of those will reply to comment.

    And of course, you won't notice those of us who read on usenet or on
    the mailing list.

    Quoted message said:

    I still think writeups are worth it, even if only a handful of readers
    get to enjoy the full purpose of them.

    I couldn't agree more.

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  20. cathwood said:

    If you ever find the (er chappy) that did it, hold him down until I can
    get there to give him a good kicking.

    Over on uk.rec.cycling, the standard suggested punishment for bike
    thieves is to shoot them and burn the body. Castration with a rusty
    implement is also a popular one. I feel that a combination of these
    punishments, perhaps not in the order mentioned, might be warranted in
    this case.

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