frame rust out

"Mark Wolfe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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I read somewhere on here recently that Framesaver is overhyped. That
you don't need it because frames don't rust out from the inside. Here's
some guy off the bob list and his beater bike which rusted from the

inside.

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http://pierat.tenebrophilia.org/bike/rusty.html

I think for the few bucks it cost, I'll stick with the framesaver.

Yeah, of the 3 frames I've seen that rusted through, all were at the
chainstay, just like that one.

Peter Cole wrote:

Yeah, of the 3 frames I've seen that rusted through, all were at the

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chainstay, just like that one.

I bet it had a blowhole near the dropout and wasn't sealed at the BB.

On Tue, 02 Nov 2004 06:36:27 -0800, Mark Wolfe <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

I read somewhere on here recently that Framesaver is overhyped. That
you don't need it because frames don't rust out from the inside. Here's
some guy off the bob list and his beater bike which rusted from the inside.

http://pierat.tenebrophilia.org/bike/rusty.html

Critical quote: "I rode it as my winter bike in the snow and salt for
3 or 4 years."

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I think for the few bucks it cost, I'll stick with the framesaver.

Caveat: Experience in the automotive field with sealant-type coatings
on the inside of cavities containing unprotected metal surfaces has
shown that in some cases, such coatings may cause localized corrosion
to be facilitated instead of prevented. The reason is that if
moisture gets under the skin of the sealer (which is less unusual than
you might expect), it can't dry out.

Framesaver won't get everywhere inside the frame. If you ride a
metal-frame bike in a salt-spray environment, you'll have corrosion.
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Mark Wolfe <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<LXMhd.30629$SW3.1775@fed1read01>...

Quoted message said:

I read somewhere on here recently that Framesaver is overhyped. That
you don't need it because frames don't rust out from the inside. Here's
some guy off the bob list and his beater bike which rusted from the inside.

http://pierat.tenebrophilia.org/bike/rusty.html

I think for the few bucks it cost, I'll stick with the framesaver.

Yeah, but did you read the description?:

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This is a 1988 Specialized Stumpjumper. A friend commuted on it in

England, moved to Canada, let it sit in her basement for a while, gave
it to me, and I rode it as my winter bike in the snow and salt for 3
or 4 years

Sheesh, talk about abuse! I bet the frame would still be serviceable
if it had gotten washed once in a while. Besides, Mark, you don't have
to worry about salt on the roads, unless you're surfing at Ocean
Beach...

Jeff

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On Tue, 02 Nov 2004 06:36:27 -0800, Mark Wolfe <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

I read somewhere on here recently that Framesaver is overhyped. That
you don't need it because frames don't rust out from the inside. Here's
some guy off the bob list and his beater bike which rusted from the inside.
http://pierat.tenebrophilia.org/bike/rusty.html
I think for the few bucks it cost, I'll stick with the framesaver.

Werehatrack said:

Critical quote: "I rode it as my winter bike in the snow and salt for
3 or 4 years."

Quoted message said:

I think for the few bucks it cost, I'll stick with the framesaver.

Caveat: Experience in the automotive field with sealant-type coatings
on the inside of cavities containing unprotected metal surfaces has
shown that in some cases, such coatings may cause localized corrosion
to be facilitated instead of prevented. The reason is that if
moisture gets under the skin of the sealer (which is less unusual than
you might expect), it can't dry out.
Framesaver won't get everywhere inside the frame. If you ride a
metal-frame bike in a salt-spray environment, you'll have corrosion.

My experience as well. The few cases of frame rust I've
seen were literally holding water until failure:

http://www.yellowjersey.org/photosfromthepast/NIMGODA.JPG
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Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

In article <[email hidden]>, A Muzi

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My experience as well. The few cases of frame rust I've
seen were literally holding water until failure:

http://www.yellowjersey.org/photosfromthepast/NIMGODA.JPG
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Sloppy Shifting!!?? LOL. Perhaps the derailleur required adjustment.
Sheesh.

luke

Jeff Wills said:

Mark Wolfe <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<LXMhd.30629$SW3.1775@fed1read01>...
... you don't have to worry about salt on the roads, unless ...

...unless you live in a part of the world where the winter roads are regularly sprinkled with salt to fight icing....

dabac <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

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Jeff Wills said:

Mark Wolfe <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:<LXMhd.30629$SW3.1775@fed1read01>...
... you don't have to worry about salt on the roads, unless ...

..unless you live in a part of the world where the winter roads are
regularly sprinkled with salt to fight icing....

Mark's sig clearly states "Lakeside, CA"... which is a smidgen east of
San Diego. Unless he's climbing Mount Palomar (to the north and east),
he's not going to encounter any snow during the winter. Occasional
downpours... yes. Snow... I doubt it.

Jeff