Freakin' Hikers

"T_Blood" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

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Anyone ever had this problem? I share my trails with numerous hikers. I am very conseriderate. I
slow to their speed when passing and even apologize when I accidently frighten them. I give
plenty of warning when coming from their rear to know I am there and am all around considerate.
My last ride

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Monday I hit a killer fast downhill section I frequent and at the end of

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trail there was a section of tree limb stratigically placed to make a

biker

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wreck. I almost did and just made it around. I know this is a hiker

because

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last season he/or they placed numerous small limbs on the same section of trail. This did nothing
more than make the trail more technical and bumpy, so this year I guess they decided to break
bones and give concussions with their obstacles.

I dismounted my bike and was actually praying this jerk off was still around the area with all
the adreneline from the run still pumping, and removed the obstacle.

Has anyone had this problem before? If so what did you do to combat it? Thanks...Mike

They're making the same mistake you are - blaming all of the opposite group for the actions of one
or a few. Cahnces are they have been nearly run over by bikers not as considerate as you, and have
decided that placing obstacles in the path of all bikers might solve the problem. Of course, the
opposite effect has been realized - it made you want to go out and pound the [censored] out of "those
freakin' hikers."

I'm not sure what the solution is, other than to remove the obstacle and be on your merry way.

J

"T_Blood" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

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Anyone ever had this problem? I share my trails with numerous hikers. I am very conseriderate. I
slow to their speed when passing and even apologize when I accidently frighten them. I give
plenty of warning when coming from their rear to know I am there and am all around considerate.
My last ride

on

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Monday I hit a killer fast downhill section I frequent and at the end of

the

Quoted message said:

trail there was a section of tree limb stratigically placed to make a

biker

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wreck. I almost did and just made it around. I know this is a hiker

because

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last season he/or they placed numerous small limbs on the same section of trail. This did nothing
more than make the trail more technical and bumpy, so this year I guess they decided to break
bones and give concussions with their obstacles.

I dismounted my bike and was actually praying this jerk off was still around the area with all
the adreneline from the run still pumping, and removed the obstacle.

Has anyone had this problem before? If so what did you do to combat it? Thanks...Mike

You think that is bad? I lived in Vancouver, BC for most of my life and have ridden the North Shore
numerous times. Vigilante hikers actually go throught the trail and sabotage the stunts so that
people will hurt themselves and then the city will shut the trails down because they are too
dangerous...

mark

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I dismounted my bike and was actually praying this jerk off was still around the area with all the
adreneline from the run still pumping, and removed the obstacle.

Has anyone had this problem before? If so what did you do to combat it?

Some months ago, I took a 1/4" polypropelene line across the larynx.

A little faster and I think I'd have been a goner. My workaround is to never go faster than I can
see ahead.
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PeteCresswell

Mark Hainsworth <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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"T_Blood" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

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Anyone ever had this problem? I share my trails with numerous hikers. I

am

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very conseriderate. I slow to their speed when passing and even

apologize

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when I accidently frighten them. I give plenty of warning when coming

from

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their rear to know I am there and am all around considerate. My last

ride

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on

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Monday I hit a killer fast downhill section I frequent and at the end of

the

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trail there was a section of tree limb stratigically placed to make a

biker

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wreck. I almost did and just made it around. I know this is a hiker

because

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last season he/or they placed numerous small limbs on the same section

of

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trail. This did nothing more than make the trail more technical and

bumpy,

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so this year I guess they decided to break bones and give concussions

with

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their obstacles.

I dismounted my bike and was actually praying this jerk off was still around the area with all
the adreneline from the run still pumping, and removed the obstacle.

Has anyone had this problem before? If so what did you do to combat it? Thanks...Mike

You think that is bad? I lived in Vancouver, BC for most of my life and have ridden the North
Shore numerous times. Vigilante hikers actually go throught the trail and sabotage the stunts so
that people will hurt themselves and then the city will shut the trails down because they are

too

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dangerous...

mark

That's not a common thing though is it? I used to live and ride round there and I never heard
anything about that.

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Anyone ever had this problem?

One thing "they" do here is litter a section of trail with cholla cactus pieces (you know, the
extremely sharp kind that jump off their branches when disturbed), or they'll form a straight line
of them across the breadth of the trail so they are impossible to steer around. The trickiest is
when they line them up and then disguise them with some dirt on top.

-John Morgan
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"I tried lube, careful prying, careful digging and even not so careful digging. Little chunks of
rubber." --Sad Bob

My last ride"T_Blood" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Monday I hit a killer fast downhill section I frequent and at the end of

the

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trail there was a section of tree limb stratigically placed to make a

biker

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wreck. I almost did and just made it around. I know this is a hiker

because

Last year I saw this on a trail in a park that I rode infrequently. Maybe once every two to three
weeks I would move it (small tree across the trail a few feet off the ground) and it would always be
put back in roughly the same area. If I ever ran into the lowlife creep doing it I would definitely
have some choice words for whoever it was.

Fredzep
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"Gravity is a harsh misstress" The Tick

T_Blood <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

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I dismounted my bike and was actually praying this jerk off was still around the area with all
the adreneline from the run still pumping, and removed the obstacle.

Has anyone had this problem before? If so what did you do to combat it? Thanks...Mike

Yup! When was living in Blackburn, I used to ride in the local woods a lot, even did a few night
rides there. The main stretch of trail (wide) that went up/down the hill regularly had large logs
laid across it, and on occasion large rocks placed there too. Each time, the obstacle would be
placed around a blind corner, in the very best place to catch someone unawares as they came fast
down the hill. [censored] me right off it did, but it never got me.

Shaun aRe

"T_Blood" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...
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I remember my first mtb trail here in cali. I was new to mtb's and didn't know too much except that
many other frequented the same technical trail (of high skill) and some hikers. I remember riding
down a slope enjoying the wind resistance when I saw this guy with a backpack (a hiker) placing
large rocks on the narrow (probably 2 bike-width) trail. He was placing them like he was trying to
make a dam or something. I didn't understand what he was doing (remember I was new) and he saw me
and paused while I was at a brake stop looking confused at him. He moved some rocks out of the way
with a really red face and I went by.

Now if I would have known what the hell he was doing (I thought him to be one of those crazy hippies
that like to play with rocks and plants), I would have probably had an assault charge.

I believe you ride in Germany. You may not realize it, but in most German states, it is illegal to
ride anything narrower than 2m. Sucks, but true. If it singletrack you are on, what you probably
have is a regular who gets [censored] about the (yes) illegal mountain bikers. Going ballistic on
him will just get the Polezi involved. If you were to find the individual involved, you might be
able to use a bit of diplomacy and reason with him. This may or may not work. If he/she is laying
logs down, you will probably get a "Das ist kein Fahrradweg". Not much you can do considering he has
the law on his side, but it never hurts to try.

Several people here ride singletrack in Germany anyway, but you have to be EXTRA nice to people you
meet on the trail.

-Dave

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Has anyone had this problem before?

Yes.

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If so what did you do to combat it?

When I caught the HOH in the act, I told him that I was going to kick his ass. He ran...fast.

JD

T_Blood said:

Has anyone had this problem before? If so what did you do to combat it? Thanks...Mike

Not that this helps, but there was a trail we rode a lot that was a sort of a downhill rutted stream
bed, very technical etc... Anyways, it always seemed like there were big rocks in the worst possible
places. It was a challenge to get through it without dabbing, or losing any blood. We started
noticing that any rocks we knocked aside while riding were always carefully replaced the next time
we rode it. So we named it the blair witch trail. Anyways, they eventually stopped putting all the
rocks back and it became a lot less challenging, in fact it ended up kinda boring without all the
obstacles. It was kind of a funny situation in that they were attracting riders by rebuilding the
obstacle course each time.

-Bruce

"John Morgan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:df9ab.55557$cj1.51512@fed1read06...

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Anyone ever had this problem?

One thing "they" do here is litter a section of trail with cholla cactus pieces (you know, the
extremely sharp kind that jump off their branches

when

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disturbed), or they'll form a straight line of them across the breadth of the trail so they are
impossible to steer around. The trickiest is when they line them up and then disguise them with
some dirt on top.

Perhaps claymore mines will solve this pesky hiker problem. Anyone have a few they can spare?

"Mark Hainsworth" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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You think that is bad? I lived in Vancouver, BC for most of my life and have ridden the North
Shore numerous times. Vigilante hikers actually go throught the trail and sabotage the stunts so
that people will hurt themselves and then the city will shut the trails down because they are

too

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dangerous...

I live in UK and have this problem on 1 trail in particular.

All you can do is continually report every incident of trail sabotage to your local police. The file
will get so large that they will have to look into it. Especially if somebody is injured.

"(Pete Cresswell)" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

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I dismounted my bike and was actually praying this jerk off was still around the area with all
the adreneline from the run still pumping, and removed the obstacle.

Has anyone had this problem before? If so what did you do to combat it?

Some months ago, I took a 1/4" polypropelene line across the larynx.

A little faster and I think I'd have been a goner. My workaround is to never go faster than I can
see ahead.
-----------------------
PeteCresswell

No [censored]..that makes my problem seem pretty petty.

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I believe you ride in Germany. You may not realize it, but in most German states, it is illegal to
ride anything narrower than 2m. Sucks, but true. If it singletrack you are on, what you probably
have is a regular who gets [censored] about the (yes) illegal mountain bikers. Going ballistic on
him will just get the Polezi involved. If you were to find the individual involved, you might be
able to use a bit of diplomacy and reason with him. This may or may not work. If he/she is laying
logs down, you will probably get a "Das ist kein Fahrradweg". Not much you can do considering he
has the law on his side, but it never hurts to try.

Several people here ride singletrack in Germany anyway, but you have to be EXTRA nice to people
you meet on the trail.

-Dave

You are right, I do ride in Germany, although I am not sure what the law is in the state of Hessen.
The biggest problem is that a lot of our bikers are not considerate. I know of one particular group
who runs around like they own the hill yelling for everyone to get out of their way. So this is from
where the problem stems. Most hikers I encounter are courteous as well and move off the trail when
they see me, wave and give an approving nod. I thank them and continue forward.

"> Yes.

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If so what did you do to combat it?

When I caught the HOH in the act, I told him that I was going to kick his ass. He ran...fast.

JD

I'm with you on this one partner....this is the best action I can think of. I am 5'8" and weigh 205
lbs, and the weight doesn't come from the German beer I do so enjoy. If I catch this one..he..will
be the next obstacle we will be riding around.

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"T_Blood" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

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Has anyone had this problem before?

Yes.

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If so what did you do to combat it?

When I caught the HOH in the act, I told him that I was going to kick his ass. He ran...fast.

Nice call there.

bruce edge said:

It was kind of a funny situation in that they were attracting riders by rebuilding the obstacle
course each time.

Maybe it was the riders who were putting back the rocks in the first place. I've been know to do a
few things to restore a section to something closer to its original glory.

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On Wed, 17 Sep 2003 22:48:34 -0500, deluxe <[email hidden]> penned:

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Perhaps claymore mines will solve this pesky hiker problem. Anyone have a few they can spare?

How do you design them to be hiker-specific? Perhaps all alt.m-bers can wear little RF ID tags?

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monique

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