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friction shifters linear gear shifts?

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  1. any hot ideas on how to adjust friction mechanisms to produce linear
    shifts at both top and bottom rear cogs?

  2. g.daniels said:

    any hot ideas on how to adjust friction mechanisms to produce linear
    shifts at both top and bottom rear cogs?

    no such possibilitude due to constant radius of cable drum vs cosine
    error in derailer linkage unless you use an old coil-spring derailer
    like a benelux mark viii or vii ofcourse you could 'facture a fricter
    with variableradial cable drum

    sheldon "dontneed no steenking punctuationor shiftkey-dontcare if
    messageis comprehensibible" brown
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  3. g.daniels said:

    any hot ideas on how to adjust friction mechanisms to produce linear
    shifts at both top and bottom rear cogs?

    I believe the friction shifter is linear in the sense that the amount of
    cable pulled is a linear function of the angular position of the lever.
    The derailleur may not linearly translate the cable-pull to the
    displacement of the cage, and I don't think that is adjustable.
    GH

  4. Sheldon Brown said:
    g.daniels said:

    any hot ideas on how to adjust friction mechanisms to produce linear
    shifts at both top and bottom rear cogs?

    no such possibilitude due to constant radius of cable drum vs cosine
    error in derailer linkage unless you use an old coil-spring derailer like
    a benelux mark viii or vii ofcourse you could 'facture a fricter with
    variableradial cable drum

    sheldon "dontneed no steenking punctuationor shiftkey-dontcare if
    messageis comprehensibible" brown

    I'm somewhat embarrassed to say it, but I understood you perfectly.

    --
    Benjamin Lewis

    Don't take life so serious, son, it ain't nohow permanent.
    -- Walt Kelly

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    sheldon "dontneed no steenking punctuationor shiftkey-dontcare if
    messageis comprehensibible" brown

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    I'm somewhat embarrassed to say it, but I understood you perfectly.

    You're well practiced from reading g.danielsese.
    --
    Rick Onanian

  6. Rick Onanian said:

    Sheldon g.danielized:

    Quoted message said:
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    sheldon "dontneed no steenking punctuationor shiftkey-dontcare if
    messageis comprehensibible" brown

    Quoted message said:

    I'm somewhat embarrassed to say it, but I understood you perfectly.

    You're well practiced from reading g.danielsese.

    It may also be from several readings of _Riddley Walker_ by Russell Hoban.

    --
    Benjamin Lewis

    Gravity is a myth, the Earth sucks.

  7. right! i cudn't have writ it better.
    butbubtut, i examined (loosely put) the problem or at least part of it
    on a long straight yesterday into the wind and alone on the wide
    mulsanne thus avoiding the SEE ROCK CITY signs and dirt bikers with
    friction shifters.
    and what i came up with bedies double vision wuza the:

    SHADOW GEAR!!
    the(ah expletive deleted i furgot to count it's teeth)3 cog down from
    the 34-32-shadow gear/28?-24? is a skip running with the small CR
    going to the 32 and to the 24 from the 32 unless the cable is turned
    pretty tightly.
    the 3 cog from the bottom does something likewise but not as often
    prefering to thrum instead.
    eye guess(whew that's along ways aback there)the linear fucntion is
    performed by the large CR and if needing accuracy so as to avoid
    physical damage to the pudendal area, scrotum, and ACL, the big CR is
    the way togo.
    the two 3 cogs on this non-linear setup takes significant effort(s) to
    get into even in the spread the wear riding mode but taking the
    hairpin flatout mode requires the extra cablescrew twist and the big
    CR.
    this is the reason or one of the reasons for index shifting on the new
    bike?

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