Friday Dinner at Restaurant

Cubit said:

After skipping Friday dinner with friends for about 6 weeks, I felt I was
ready to return to a social life. The chart at the link below shows the
short term result. I have to confess, I didn't even weigh myself on
Saturday because I knew it would look bad. From the chart I can see that
even by Sunday the result of dinner at my favorite restaurant was
obvious.

This was "Desi-Chinese" at an Indian restaurant. Thus, it was a buffet
of
the Indian version of Chinese food. (Picante!)

link:
http://techmart.com/~cubit/Chart85.gif

Cubit
190/169.3/160

Merely a blip!

--
Bob in CT

Cubit wrote:
:: After skipping Friday dinner with friends for about 6 weeks, I felt
:: I was ready to return to a social life. The chart at the link below
:: shows the short term result. I have to confess, I didn't even weigh
:: myself on Saturday because I knew it would look bad. From the chart
:: I can see that even by Sunday the result of dinner at my favorite
:: restaurant was obvious.
::
:: This was "Desi-Chinese" at an Indian restaurant. Thus, it was a
:: buffet of the Indian version of Chinese food. (Picante!)
::
:: link:
:: http://techmart.com/~cubit/Chart85.gif
::

Did you eat more carbs at that dinner or was it just more food?

Good question. > Both.

The day came to 74 net carbs. The dinner had cauliflower, egg rolls, and
sauces as carb sources. Mostly, I ate the meats and the cauliflower dish
(Gobi Manchurian).

My guess is the spike comes from salts.

2503 calories for the day. If I assume a burn rate of 1800, that would be
703 calories of weight gain, or about .2 pounds. There is also a disruption
of my normal dieting process. It is harder to do my normal dieting routine
in the days after a feast. You would think that after a high calorie day
the body would want less calories, but not so. I find that the day after
high calories I crave more of the same.

"Roger Zoul" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Cubit wrote:
:: After skipping Friday dinner with friends for about 6 weeks, I felt
:: I was ready to return to a social life. The chart at the link below
:: shows the short term result. I have to confess, I didn't even weigh
:: myself on Saturday because I knew it would look bad. From the chart
:: I can see that even by Sunday the result of dinner at my favorite
:: restaurant was obvious.
::
:: This was "Desi-Chinese" at an Indian restaurant. Thus, it was a
:: buffet of the Indian version of Chinese food. (Picante!)
::
:: link:
:: http://techmart.com/~cubit/Chart85.gif
::

Did you eat more carbs at that dinner or was it just more food?

How do you know how many calories you ate? Did the restaurant have this
info, or did you guess?

Cubit said:

Good question. > Both.

The day came to 74 net carbs. The dinner had cauliflower, egg rolls, and
sauces as carb sources. Mostly, I ate the meats and the cauliflower dish
(Gobi Manchurian).

My guess is the spike comes from salts.

2503 calories for the day. If I assume a burn rate of 1800, that would
be
703 calories of weight gain, or about .2 pounds. There is also a
disruption
of my normal dieting process. It is harder to do my normal dieting
routine
in the days after a feast. You would think that after a high calorie day
the body would want less calories, but not so. I find that the day after
high calories I crave more of the same.

"Roger Zoul" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Cubit wrote:
:: After skipping Friday dinner with friends for about 6 weeks, I felt
:: I was ready to return to a social life. The chart at the link below
:: shows the short term result. I have to confess, I didn't even weigh
:: myself on Saturday because I knew it would look bad. From the chart
:: I can see that even by Sunday the result of dinner at my favorite
:: restaurant was obvious.
::
:: This was "Desi-Chinese" at an Indian restaurant. Thus, it was a
:: buffet of the Indian version of Chinese food. (Picante!)
::
:: link:
:: http://techmart.com/~cubit/Chart85.gif
::

Did you eat more carbs at that dinner or was it just more food?

--
Bob in CT

Cubit wrote:
:: Good question. > Both.
::
:: The day came to 74 net carbs. The dinner had cauliflower, egg
:: rolls, and sauces as carb sources. Mostly, I ate the meats and the
:: cauliflower dish (Gobi Manchurian).
::
:: My guess is the spike comes from salts.
::
:: 2503 calories for the day. If I assume a burn rate of 1800, that
:: would be 703 calories of weight gain, or about .2 pounds. There is
:: also a disruption of my normal dieting process. It is harder to do
:: my normal dieting routine in the days after a feast. You would
:: think that after a high calorie day the body would want less
:: calories, but not so. I find that the day after high calories I
:: crave more of the same.

Yes, I have found similar thing unless I exercise a lot too. It does seem
as if the body gets used to a certain amount of food on a daily basis and
tries to force you there. When you lower the intake over time, the body
adapts (lower) its desire for food.

::
::
:: "Roger Zoul" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
:: news:[email hidden]...
::: Cubit wrote:
::::: After skipping Friday dinner with friends for about 6 weeks, I
::::: felt I was ready to return to a social life. The chart at the
::::: link below shows the short term result. I have to confess, I
::::: didn't even weigh myself on Saturday because I knew it would look
::::: bad. From the chart I can see that even by Sunday the result of
::::: dinner at my favorite restaurant was obvious.
:::::
::::: This was "Desi-Chinese" at an Indian restaurant. Thus, it was a
::::: buffet of the Indian version of Chinese food. (Picante!)
:::::
::::: link:
::::: http://techmart.com/~cubit/Chart85.gif
:::::
:::
::: Did you eat more carbs at that dinner or was it just more food?

SWAG = Scientific Wild Ass Guess

I estimated 3 cups of cauliflower, but it might have been two. There is no
way to weigh things at a restaurant, and human perception of portion sizes
changes.

"Bob in CT" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

How do you know how many calories you ate? Did the restaurant have this
info, or did you guess?

Cubit said:

Good question. > Both.

The day came to 74 net carbs. The dinner had cauliflower, egg rolls, and
sauces as carb sources. Mostly, I ate the meats and the cauliflower dish
(Gobi Manchurian).

My guess is the spike comes from salts.

2503 calories for the day. If I assume a burn rate of 1800, that would
be
703 calories of weight gain, or about .2 pounds. There is also a
disruption
of my normal dieting process. It is harder to do my normal dieting
routine
in the days after a feast. You would think that after a high calorie day
the body would want less calories, but not so. I find that the day after
high calories I crave more of the same.

"Roger Zoul" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Cubit wrote:
:: After skipping Friday dinner with friends for about 6 weeks, I felt
:: I was ready to return to a social life. The chart at the link below
:: shows the short term result. I have to confess, I didn't even weigh
:: myself on Saturday because I knew it would look bad. From the chart
:: I can see that even by Sunday the result of dinner at my favorite
:: restaurant was obvious.
::
:: This was "Desi-Chinese" at an Indian restaurant. Thus, it was a
:: buffet of the Indian version of Chinese food. (Picante!)
::
:: link:
:: http://techmart.com/~cubit/Chart85.gif
::

Did you eat more carbs at that dinner or was it just more food?

--
Bob in CT

"Cubit" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

SWAG = Scientific Wild Ass Guess

I estimated 3 cups of cauliflower, but it might have been two. There
is no way to weigh things at a restaurant, and human perception of
portion sizes changes.

"Bob in CT" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

How do you know how many calories you ate? Did the restaurant have
this info, or did you guess?

Cubit said:

Good question. > Both.

The day came to 74 net carbs. The dinner had cauliflower, egg rolls,
and
sauces as carb sources. Mostly, I ate the meats and the cauliflower
dish
(Gobi Manchurian).

My guess is the spike comes from salts.

2503 calories for the day. If I assume a burn rate of 1800, that
would be
703 calories of weight gain, or about .2 pounds. There is also a
disruption
of my normal dieting process. It is harder to do my normal dieting
routine
in the days after a feast. You would think that after a high calorie
day
the body would want less calories, but not so. I find that the day
after
high calories I crave more of the same.

"Roger Zoul" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...
> Cubit wrote:
> :: After skipping Friday dinner with friends for about 6 weeks, I
> felt
> :: I was ready to return to a social life. The chart at the link
> below
> :: shows the short term result. I have to confess, I didn't even
> weigh
> :: myself on Saturday because I knew it would look bad. From the
> chart
> :: I can see that even by Sunday the result of dinner at my favorite
> :: restaurant was obvious.
> ::
> :: This was "Desi-Chinese" at an Indian restaurant. Thus, it was a
> :: buffet of the Indian version of Chinese food. (Picante!)
> ::
> :: link:
> :: http://techmart.com/~cubit/Chart85.gif
> ::
>
> Did you eat more carbs at that dinner or was it just more food?
>

--
Bob in CT

Salt. Salt. Sodium. Leads to fluid retention.

Quoted message said:

Cubit said:

link:
http://techmart.com/~cubit/Chart85.gif

Looks like Mt. Everest

Quoted message said:

Cubit
190/169.3/160

169.3 what? C'mon, let's do this right. Let's obsesses to the 100th dec
point.

Quoted message said:

"Bob in CT" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

How do you know how many calories you ate? Did the restaurant have this
info, or did you guess?

Cubit said:

SWAG = Scientific Wild Ass Guess

I estimated 3 cups of cauliflower, but it might have been two. There is no
way to weigh things at a restaurant, and human perception of portion sizes
changes.

So why do you do this cal counting or carb counting? For funsies, ok,
but can't you get your funsies without food or alt.support groups
centricity?

I guess that you meant "measure" not "weigh" or was this a
2PoundDiet-AOOCS Freudian slip, eh?

Cubit penned:

: There is
: also a disruption of my normal dieting process. It is harder to do
: my normal dieting routine in the days after a feast. You would
: think that after a high calorie day the body would want less
: calories, but not so. I find that the day after high calories I
: crave more of the same.

What does that tell you? That the body reacts to food weight not caloric
density?

Roger Zoul said:

It does seem
as if the body gets used to a certain amount of food on a daily basis and
tries to force you there. When you lower the intake over time, the body
adapts (lower) its desire for food.

Sure does and this is true whether you eat 2 lbs of fat or 2 lbs of
carbs and proteins.

Wait, the caloric amounts are not anywhere near the same, Zoulie. So you
were talking about amounts as in weight not calories !!

Del Cecchi wrote:
:: "Cubit" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
:: news:[email hidden]...
::: SWAG = Scientific Wild Ass Guess
:::
::: I estimated 3 cups of cauliflower, but it might have been two.
::: There is no way to weigh things at a restaurant, and human
::: perception of portion sizes changes.
:::
::: "Bob in CT" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
::: news:[email hidden]...
:::: How do you know how many calories you ate? Did the restaurant have
:::: this info, or did you guess?
::::
:::: On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 14:30:44 -0400, Cubit <[email hidden]> wrote:
::::
::::: Good question. > Both.
:::::
::::: The day came to 74 net carbs. The dinner had cauliflower, egg
::::: rolls, and
::::: sauces as carb sources. Mostly, I ate the meats and the
::::: cauliflower dish
::::: (Gobi Manchurian).
:::::
::::: My guess is the spike comes from salts.
:::::
::::: 2503 calories for the day. If I assume a burn rate of 1800, that
::::: would be
::::: 703 calories of weight gain, or about .2 pounds. There is also a
::::: disruption
::::: of my normal dieting process. It is harder to do my normal
::::: dieting routine
::::: in the days after a feast. You would think that after a high
::::: calorie day
::::: the body would want less calories, but not so. I find that the
::::: day after
::::: high calories I crave more of the same.
:::::
:::::
::::: "Roger Zoul" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
::::: news:[email hidden]...
:::::: Cubit wrote:
:::::::: After skipping Friday dinner with friends for about 6 weeks, I
:::::::: felt I was ready to return to a social life. The chart at the
:::::::: link below shows the short term result. I have to confess, I
:::::::: didn't even weigh myself on Saturday because I knew it would
:::::::: look bad. From the chart I can see that even by Sunday the
:::::::: result of dinner at my favorite restaurant was obvious.
::::::::
:::::::: This was "Desi-Chinese" at an Indian restaurant. Thus, it was
:::::::: a buffet of the Indian version of Chinese food. (Picante!)
::::::::
:::::::: link:
:::::::: http://techmart.com/~cubit/Chart85.gif
::::::::
::::::
:::::: Did you eat more carbs at that dinner or was it just more food?
::::::
:::::
:::: --
:::: Bob in CT
::
:: Salt. Salt. Sodium. Leads to fluid retention.

True, but if you've been keeping carb intake at 20g and then up it to 75 g,
you could also absorb fluids due simply to partial refilling of glycogen in
muscles and liver.

Cubit said:

The day came to 74 net carbs. The dinner had cauliflower, egg
rolls, and sauces as carb sources. Mostly, I ate the meats and the
cauliflower dish (Gobi Manchurian).

The good news is that 74g is still pretty low. I think Schwarzbein
sets a limit of 100, and it's considered a low-carb diet. After all,
the USDA says that 1200 calories of the standard 2000-calorie diet
should come from carbs, which would mean a whopping 300 grams.

Quoted message said:

My guess is the spike comes from salts.

That's very possible. It could also be your body using water to store
the unusually high (for you) intake of glucose. Either way, it should
come back off in a hurry. As you pointed out, you can't gain a
significant amount of fat from a single meal.

--
Aaron -- 285/235/200 -- aaron.baugher.biz

"If you hear hoofbeats, you just go ahead and think horsies, not
zebras."