Front page problems - help please

sandy saunders said:

Quoted message said:

I'd be tempted to delete Front Page...

I have been contemplating taking a look at Dreamweaver as an alternative,
which I believe appears to be the more popular tool.

Dreamweaver is an excellent product but
the learning curve is steep! I have and
use both FrontPage and Dreamweaver and I
can see why many people prefer
Frontpage, it's a lot easier to use
although Dreamweaver does a lot more.

If you have the patience and time to
learn Dreamweaver you'll be glad you
made the switch.

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Nick

Yes, thank you. I was thinking about all these replies, and the general
consensus seems to be that Front Page has a lot of problems associated with
it. Would I be correct in thinking that all the points raised in these
replies are Front Page specific, and that Dreamweaver, despite its learning
curve, is ultimately easier to use?

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Quoted message said:

sandy saunders said:

Quoted message said:

I'd be tempted to delete Front Page...

I have been contemplating taking a look at Dreamweaver as an alternative,
which I believe appears to be the more popular tool.

Dreamweaver is an excellent product but the learning curve is steep! I
have and use both FrontPage and Dreamweaver and I can see why many people
prefer Frontpage, it's a lot easier to use although Dreamweaver does a lot
more.

If you have the patience and time to learn Dreamweaver you'll be glad you
made the switch.

--
Regards

Nick

Quoted message said:

Yes, thank you. I was thinking about all these replies, and the general
consensus seems to be that Front Page has a lot of problems associated
with it. Would I be correct in thinking that all the points raised in
these replies are Front Page specific, and that Dreamweaver, despite its
learning curve, is ultimately easier to use?

I also investigated the price ........... and some price! Not much on ebay
either

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Quoted message said:

Yes, thank you. I was thinking about all these replies, and the general
consensus seems to be that Front Page has a lot of problems associated with
it. Would I be correct in thinking that all the points raised in these
replies are Front Page specific, and that Dreamweaver, despite its learning
curve, is ultimately easier to use?

Another problem with Front Page is that it assumes you will be using a
server with front page extensions loaded. It merrily lets you do things
that won't work if they are not. Typical Microsoft - it wants you to do
it their way all down the line.

Dreamweaver is much better in this respect but it is still possible to
create crappy code. But it's crappy code that will work in the vast
majority of cases.

OTOH your pages are pretty simple. Have you considered just writing
them in html? Notepad2 is free. :-)

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SOLVED IT!!!!

The problem has now been resolved...I've filled up all available space on
the website! I'm only allowed 50MB, and I'm over that already. Not very
much, but it's what comes with the broadband service. So I've got to try and
shrink my photos or look for more webspace somewhere. If the latter any
suggestions would be greatefully received. I appreciate that free sites are
not all they seem, but do I want to pay for what is little more than a
diary?

Thanks for all the comments and suggestions.

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Message-ID: <[email hidden]> from Gordon Burns
contained the following:

Quoted message said:

Yes, thank you. I was thinking about all these replies, and the general
consensus seems to be that Front Page has a lot of problems associated
with
it. Would I be correct in thinking that all the points raised in these
replies are Front Page specific, and that Dreamweaver, despite its
learning
curve, is ultimately easier to use?

Another problem with Front Page is that it assumes you will be using a
server with front page extensions loaded. It merrily lets you do things
that won't work if they are not. Typical Microsoft - it wants you to do
it their way all down the line.

Dreamweaver is much better in this respect but it is still possible to
create crappy code. But it's crappy code that will work in the vast
majority of cases.

OTOH your pages are pretty simple. Have you considered just writing
them in html? Notepad2 is free. :-)

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It's only Usenet, no one dies.
My opinions, not the committee's, mine.
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On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 07:09:08 +0000, Geoff Berrow wrote...

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Up to a point. Links in the form
<a href='\images\picture.jpg'>Link</a>
are also known as absolute an will resolve correctly whatever part of
the directory tree they are in. The forward slash makes them take their
reference point as the webroot.

True, but then it probably wouldn't work on your local hard disc (unless
you store your local copy of the website starting in the root directory
of your C: drive).

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Jackson contained the following:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Up to a point. Links in the form
<a href='\images\picture.jpg'>Link</a>
are also known as absolute an will resolve correctly whatever part of
the directory tree they are in. The forward slash makes them take their
reference point as the webroot.

True, but then it probably wouldn't work on your local hard disc (unless
you store your local copy of the website starting in the root directory
of your C: drive).

I'd have to check that in something like FP or DW. In these programs
you're supposed to create a 'web' first. I don't know if this root
folder would act the same way.

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mick said:

If you don't mind getting your hands dirty with a bit of HTML, can I
recommend 1st Page 2000? It is an excellent HTML editor, with lots of
bells & whistles - and you can't argue with the price: Free!

I had a quick search for this but on one of the download pages there
was a suggestion it had a virus in one component.

Having only written html by hand I was wanting to try a simple free
html editor just to see what they did.

AJH

Gordon Burns said:

SOLVED IT!!!!

Binned Front Page?

Quoted message said:

The problem has now been resolved...I've filled up all available space on
the website! I'm only allowed 50MB, and I'm over that already.

<g> ;-)

Quoted message said:

Not very
much, but it's what comes with the broadband service. So I've got to try and
shrink my photos or look for more webspace somewhere.

The former would be easily achievable.

You can (should?) radically jiggle (oxymoron alert ;-) with both your
image sizes and resolution. Image sizing is flexible, but I settle on
a max size of 800x600 - tho, tbh, this is prolly a bit big but in a
"gallery", where one image is being displayed at a time and the image
is the point, it suits. For in-page sizing I'd look to a max of
640x480 but, there's no hard and fast rule.

Where there is a "hard rule" is with the resolution that you should be
saving your images; 72 DPI is the cut off - monitors don't usually
give you a visibly better image if the resolution is higher. NB this
is for web display only, it will make a difference for your print
resolution when you should keep resolution as high as possible. You
should also look to reduce the "quality" you save the jpegs you're
producing for web pages. Its suck-it-and-see for this setting too;
basically you want the lowest you can get away with without a
noticeable degradation of the image. The image editting software you
use should give you a preview option.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Another problem with Front Page
Dreamweaver is much better in this

If you're looking for something better than FrontPage (which is [censored])
then Dreamweaver is the top dog. However, its prolly overkill for your
needs at this time -and- its not cheap.

There are good and free alternatives, I can't recommend any but if you
look on somewhere like snapfiles the proggies they list are reviewed
and rated by techies and users:

WYSIWYG web editors:

http://www.snapfiles.com/Freeware/webpublish/fwwysiwyg.html
http://www.snapfiles.com/Freeware/webpublish/fweditors.html

Graphics:

http://www.snapfiles.com/Freeware/gmm/fwgraphicedit.html

I look forward to a spiffing web site soon :-)
(Just as long as you ditch that splash screen;
"click to enter" = bleurgh!! ;-)

HTH

AJH said:

On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 19:45:08 GMT, mick <[email hidden]> wrote:
Having only written html by hand I was wanting to try a simple free
html editor just to see what they did.

AJH

Try this one.

http://www.chami.com/html-kit/

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Here's one too, that includes an HTML syntax checker. No spyware or adware.
It's an HTML source code editor (not WYSIWYG).
http://www.htmlvalidator.com/lite/

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mick said:

If you don't mind getting your hands dirty with a bit of HTML, can I
recommend 1st Page 2000? It is an excellent HTML editor, with lots of
bells & whistles - and you can't argue with the price: Free!

I had a quick search for this but on one of the download pages there
was a suggestion it had a virus in one component.

Having only written html by hand I was wanting to try a simple free
html editor just to see what they did.

AJH

AJH said:

Having only written html by hand I was wanting to try a simple free
html editor just to see what they did.

Try http://www.nvu.com. It's not as good as the hype on the homepage
suggests (it does not rival Dreamweaver), but it's pretty good for a
freebie.

Colin

On Tue, 29 Nov 2005 10:07:25 +0100, AJH burbled:

Quoted message said:

mick said:

If you don't mind getting your hands dirty with a bit of HTML, can I
recommend 1st Page 2000? It is an excellent HTML editor, with lots of
bells & whistles - and you can't argue with the price: Free!

I had a quick search for this but on one of the download pages there was a
suggestion it had a virus in one component.

Having only written html by hand I was wanting to try a simple free html
editor just to see what they did.

That reared it's head ages ago. There is one javascript that trips some
antivirus programs. If it bothers you just delete the offending script -
as far as I am aware there is no actual virus, just a code sequence that
looks like one. I can't remember now which jscript it was and,
unfortunately, I don't have a windows box to play with at the moment so I
can't investigate! I did get this at work - where I use 1st page to edit
our intranet - but just deleted the script and all was well again.

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