Front willie on a mountain bike?

"Brett" <[email hidden]> wrote

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Sometimes I see pro mountain bike riders do a nose willie. The back tire isn't very high off the
ground and the rear end usually swings out a

little.

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Any one have some tips on how this is done?

Thanks, Brett

The key to doing a 'nose wheelie' is practice. Good brakes help.

Pete

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"Brett" <[email hidden]> wrote

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Sometimes I see pro mountain bike riders do a nose willie. The back

tire

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isn't very high off the ground and the rear end usually swings out a

little.

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Any one have some tips on how this is done?

Thanks, Brett

The key to doing a 'nose wheelie' is practice. Good brakes help.

They used to be called "endos". There is a slight body movement required to help the end come up.

I still have all the reflex actions to control one, as I found out when I got my first V-brakes.

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"Brett" <[email hidden]> wrote

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Sometimes I see pro mountain bike riders do a nose willie. The back

tire

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isn't very high off the ground and the rear end usually swings out a

little.

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Any one have some tips on how this is done?

Thanks, Brett

The key to doing a 'nose wheelie' is practice. Good brakes help.

They used to be called "endos". There is a slight body movement required to help the end come up.

I still have all the reflex actions to control one, as I found out when I got my first V-brakes.

Endos don't move...I think. Maybe rolling endo? I use to do it very good on my freestyle bike but
guess it's back to the basic on the mountain bike.

Brett

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Sometimes I see pro mountain bike riders do a nose willie. The back tire isn't very high off the
ground and the rear end usually swings out a

little.

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Any one have some tips on how this is done?

Thanks, Brett

Gave me a good laugh this morning! It brought me back to the question from a Frenchman awhile back
who wanted to know "how do I pull a willie?".

Pat

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The key to doing a 'nose wheelie' is practice. Good brakes help.

They used to be called "endos". There is a slight body movement required to help the end
come up.

I still have all the reflex actions to control one, as I found out when

I

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got my first V-brakes.

Endos don't move...I think. Maybe rolling endo? I use to do it very good on my freestyle bike but
guess it's back to the basic on the mountain

bike.

You are right, it will be very different on your mountain bike, mostly because the center of gravity
is different and you don't have nearly as much space to move around. Your freestyle bike probably
had the seat down around your knees if you were standing on the pedals. The mountain bike will never
get the seat that low. This restricts how far you can lift the rear wheel before the seat contacts
you somewhere and pushes you over the bars.

A set of v-brakes will really help you get the stopping force to endo. My first panic stop on my
mountain bike after switching from cantilevers to v-brakes put me over the bars instantly. I tend to
stop fairly hard fairly often and lifting the rear wheel while stopping is a regular occurence. Just
be ready for it when it happens and be prepared to let up a bit on the brakes. Don't panic and clamp
down or you will go over. Also notice that most guys get off the seat and move waaaayy back. This
moves the center of gravity back far enough to get maximum height from the rear wheel without going
over the bars.

Get some speed, get off the saddle and hit the front brake. Up (and hopefully not over) you will
go. Of course, maybe your best bet is to save the mountain bike for trails and break out the
freestyle bike for the endos. A mountain bike can do it, but it is certainly more impressive on the
right kind of bike.

Good luck, Buck

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> The key to doing a 'nose wheelie' is practice. Good brakes help.

They used to be called "endos". There is a slight body movement required to help the end
come up.

I still have all the reflex actions to control one, as I found out

when

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I

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got my first V-brakes.

Endos don't move...I think. Maybe rolling endo? I use to do it very

good

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on my freestyle bike but guess it's back to the basic on the mountain

bike.

You are right, it will be very different on your mountain bike, mostly because the center of
gravity is different and you don't have nearly as

much

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space to move around. Your freestyle bike probably had the seat down

around

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your knees if you were standing on the pedals. The mountain bike will

never

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get the seat that low. This restricts how far you can lift the rear wheel before the seat contacts
you somewhere and pushes you over the bars.

A set of v-brakes will really help you get the stopping force to endo. My first panic stop on my
mountain bike after switching from cantilevers to v-brakes put me over the bars instantly. I tend
to stop fairly hard fairly often and lifting the rear wheel while stopping is a regular occurence.

Just

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be ready for it when it happens and be prepared to let up a bit on the brakes. Don't panic and
clamp down or you will go over. Also notice that most guys get off the seat and move waaaayy back.
This moves the center of gravity back far enough to get maximum height from the rear wheel without
going over the bars.

Get some speed, get off the saddle and hit the front brake. Up (and hopefully not over) you will
go. Of course, maybe your best bet is to save the mountain bike for trails and break out the
freestyle bike for the

endos.

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A mountain bike can do it, but it is certainly more impressive on the

right

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kind of bike.

I thought it looked better on the mountain bike. These guys come across the finish line, raise
the rear end while sitting back over the seat, swing the back to the side and ride the willie.
Very neat.

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Good luck, Buck

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Buck said:

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A mountain bike can do it, but it is certainly more impressive on the

right

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kind of bike.

Brett:

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I thought it looked better on the mountain bike. These guys come across

the

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finish line, raise the rear end while sitting back over the seat, swing

the

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back to the side and ride the willie. Very neat.

Please, please stop calling it a "willie." The word you are looking for is "wheelie," a derivative
of the word "wheel." "Willie" is a slang term for your private parts or, if the word "slick" is
added to it, a term for a former president.

-Buck

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Buck said:

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A mountain bike can do it, but it is certainly more impressive on the

right

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kind of bike.

Brett:

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I thought it looked better on the mountain bike. These guys come across

the

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finish line, raise the rear end while sitting back over the seat, swing

the

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back to the side and ride the willie. Very neat.

Please, please stop calling it a "willie." The word you are looking for is "wheelie," a derivative
of the word "wheel." "Willie" is a slang term for your private parts or, if the word "slick" is
added to it, a term for a former president.

-Buck

Yes - you are right. Sorry.

Brett

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"Buck" <j u n k m a i l @ g a l a x y c o r p . c o m> wrote in message

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brakes. Don't panic and clamp down or you will go over. Also notice that most guys get off the
seat and move waaaayy back. This moves the center

of

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gravity back far enough to get maximum height from the rear wheel

without

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going over the bars.

Pah! I'd prefer duration over height. oops, perhaps that looks odd when we are talking willies.

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A mountain bike can do it, but it is certainly more impressive on the

right

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kind of bike.

Pah! Right kind of bike eh? see below.

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I thought it looked better on the mountain bike. These guys come across

the

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finish line, raise the rear end while sitting back over the seat, swing

the

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back to the side and ride the

I'd still call it an endo. Anyway, from what you say I'd think its a question of learning endos, and
then learning to control them as they go a little to far. After a while it'll look good - you'll do
it smoothly. The only thing that would worry me would be going too far, but I suppose the guys that
really know what they are doing can hop out of it. I thought you might be meaning the BMX trick
where they seem to roll all over the place on the front wheel, thats got to take some practice.

Right bike? Well I learned to do rolling endos on a kid's 26 inch wheel racer (old style, not MTB
26"😉 . One day I'll re-learn them and perhaps re-learn unicycling on a fixed wheel road bike.

Wheelies on tandems. Now thats a step too far, but I'd love to see it done.

Pat said:

Gave me a good laugh this morning! It brought me back to the question from a Frenchman awhile back
who wanted to know "how do I pull a willie?".

Being French, you'd think he'd know.

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"W K" <[email hidden]> wrote

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I'd still call it an endo.

Maybe I'm old school, but an 'endo' is NOT something you really want to do.

"End over end"

i.e. a crash in which you go over the front. A nose wheelie is merely the first
(unpainful) part...😉

Pete

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Sometimes I see pro mountain bike riders do a nose willie. The back tire isn't very high off the
ground and the rear end usually swings out a

little.

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Any one have some tips on how this is done?

First, you need a really long willie. Mark Lee

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Sometimes I see pro mountain bike riders do a nose willie. The back tire isn't very high off the
ground and the rear end usually swings out a

little.

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Any one have some tips on how this is done?

First, you need a really long willie.

Hmm :-) some years back the world record - on a motorcycle, was 150m or so.

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Sometimes I see pro mountain bike riders do a nose willie. The back

tire

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isn't very high off the ground and the rear end usually swings out a

little.

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Any one have some tips on how this is done?

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First, you need a really long willie.

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Hmm :-) some years back the world record - on a motorcycle, was 150m or so.

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Now THERE's a willie! Bret, the word is "wheelie."

Pat