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  1. When I came back to cycling I knew one thing - I was never going to
    wear that geeky clothing no matter what.

    I had a nice little 10 mile loop that I started doing every day. I
    timed myself so that I knew how I was feeling that day. It got so that
    I could tell what my time would be just from the way I felt.

    Then one birthday my brother gave me a pair of cycling shorts and a
    jersey. Nothing expensive but the real thing.

    I felt EXTREMELY self concious the first time I wore them and tried my
    circuit. Strangely enough I was 2 minutes (!!!) faster. The next day I
    wore my jeans and t-shirt and got my normal time. Shorts and jersey
    again and - two minutes faster! I went back and forth for a week
    because I couldn't believe that could be the case.

    But it was.

    Cycling clothing is not something dreamed up by a fashion designer with
    a penchant for making people look more rediculous than in real life. It
    is functional apparel with a reason to look the way it does.

    Maybe you don't want to wear it and if so that's fine but when you're
    going up the hill on Market Street remember that part of the reason
    that guy rides by you like you're standing still is the clothing.

  2. i too think the billboard jerseys are silly as hell. a VERY small
    number aren't too bad.

    for some non-silly but still.....er...fast clothing....check out
    www.rivbike.com

    i just purchased some wooly warm sleeveless t's for the summer and they
    are really really soft and thin and best of all, don't make me look
    like i want to be a professional cyclist.

    the riders i think are most funny are the ones who wear the full team
    kit. i often see them on the road on my way to the post office or
    downtown. that serious look like their really concentrating or getting
    a hard workout. i just can't help but laugh.

    Tom said:

    When I came back to cycling I knew one thing - I was never going to
    wear that geeky clothing no matter what.

    I had a nice little 10 mile loop that I started doing every day. I
    timed myself so that I knew how I was feeling that day. It got so that
    I could tell what my time would be just from the way I felt.

    Then one birthday my brother gave me a pair of cycling shorts and a
    jersey. Nothing expensive but the real thing.

    I felt EXTREMELY self concious the first time I wore them and tried my
    circuit. Strangely enough I was 2 minutes (!!!) faster. The next day I
    wore my jeans and t-shirt and got my normal time. Shorts and jersey
    again and - two minutes faster! I went back and forth for a week
    because I couldn't believe that could be the case.

    But it was.

    Cycling clothing is not something dreamed up by a fashion designer with
    a penchant for making people look more rediculous than in real life. It
    is functional apparel with a reason to look the way it does.

    Maybe you don't want to wear it and if so that's fine but when you're
    going up the hill on Market Street remember that part of the reason
    that guy rides by you like you're standing still is the clothing.

  3. "Tom" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:1147703495.917554.245570
    @j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:

    Quoted message said:

    I felt EXTREMELY self concious the first time I wore them and tried my
    circuit. Strangely enough I was 2 minutes (!!!) faster. The next day I
    wore my jeans and t-shirt and got my normal time. Shorts and jersey
    again and - two minutes faster! I went back and forth for a week
    because I couldn't believe that could be the case.

    The difference becomes even more noticable on longer rides. I cannot imagine
    wearing jeans on a 100 mile ride.

  4. "sal bass" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:1147705485.862635.79470
    @j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:

    Quoted message said:

    i too think the billboard jerseys are silly as hell. a VERY small
    number aren't too bad.

    for some non-silly but still.....er...fast clothing....check out
    www.rivbike.com

    The majority of cycling clothing sold at my local bike shop is solid colors
    or simple patterns, and much cheaper than that rivbike stuff.

  5. Ken said:

    I cannot imagine wearing jeans on a 100 mile ride.

    You've never heard of Iron Bill Baka?

  6. is it made of wool or plastic?

    Ken said:

    "sal bass" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:1147705485.862635.79470
    @j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:

    Quoted message said:

    i too think the billboard jerseys are silly as hell. a VERY small
    number aren't too bad.

    for some non-silly but still.....er...fast clothing....check out
    www.rivbike.com

    The majority of cycling clothing sold at my local bike shop is solid colors
    or simple patterns, and much cheaper than that rivbike stuff.

  7. Tom says...

    Quoted message said:

    Maybe you don't want to wear it and if so that's fine but when you're
    going up the hill on Market Street remember that part of the reason
    that guy rides by you like you're standing still is the clothing.

    I sometimes feel geeky in cycling clothes, but it is silly considering
    nobody has ever made a negative comment to me while wearing them. On
    the contrary, most people think they look great, but I only wear the
    solid color variety. I can't imagine why I would want to advertise for
    a French gas company or a Swiss hearing aid maker. The shorts are "form
    fitting", so to speak, but it isn't noticeable while you are on the
    bike. But even that isn't a big deal. Most people just don't notice or
    care what I'm wearing.

  8. "sal bass" <[email hidden]> wrote in
    news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:

    is it made of wool or plastic?

    Only geeks care about style over function.

  9. Quoted message said:

    When I came back to cycling I knew one thing - I was never going to
    wear that geeky clothing no matter what.


    ....

    Quoted message said:

    Then one birthday my brother gave me a pair of cycling shorts and a
    jersey. Nothing expensive but the real thing.

    I felt EXTREMELY self concious the first time I wore them and tried my
    circuit. Strangely enough I was 2 minutes (!!!) faster. The next day I
    wore my jeans and t-shirt and got my normal time. Shorts and jersey
    again and - two minutes faster! I went back and forth for a week
    because I couldn't believe that could be the case.

    But it was.

    Maybe you're faster because you don't want anyone to see you? 🙂

    Seriously, I paid little attention to clothing until my rides
    started getting to around 45-50 minutes. Then I discovered some
    severe limitations to cotton as a fabric for exercise wear, and
    soon after discovered the advantages of real cycling clothing.


  10. Quoted message said:

    When I came back to cycling I knew one thing - I was never going to
    wear that geeky clothing no matter what.


    The test is how long you wear cycling gear, AFTER the ride. It takes me
    5 minutes to get out of that stuff. Comfortable on the bike, but crappy off
    the bike. It amazes me to see guys drive a 100 miles home, wearing the same
    [censored] they rode in all day.

  11. Tom said:


    I felt EXTREMELY self concious the first time I wore them and tried my
    circuit. Strangely enough I was 2 minutes (!!!) faster. The next day I
    wore my jeans and t-shirt and got my normal time. Shorts and jersey
    again and - two minutes faster! I went back and forth for a week
    because I couldn't believe that could be the case.

    But it was.

    You can measure the difference on a familiar circuit when using disc
    wheels, too. Like cycling clothes, those have benefits that, while
    measurable, are rarely significant for most cyclists-- but they have
    significant drawbacks that abbreviate their practical uses.

    If you want more company out there (or merely more safety in numbers),
    then you should wear real clothes when you ride. SuperGeek Underoos
    are a big part of the reason that regular people don't think cycling is
    for regular people. Ain't nobody gonna want to join your team if they
    think they'll have to wear _that_ uniform.

    Over the last couple of years in my neighborhood, I have noticed that
    the more young hipsters ride bike in their normal clothes, the more
    other young hipsters do the same. The increase in numbers has been
    noticeable.

    Quoted message said:

    Maybe you don't want to wear it and if so that's fine but when you're
    going up the hill on Market Street remember that part of the reason
    that guy rides by you like you're standing still is the clothing.

    I think you are overstating the potential benefits here. I have
    switched both to and away from cycling shorts and clipless shoes, and
    while there was a performance difference, it was not like you describe.
    The change in performance is subtle; the change in your appearance,
    and in what else you can do while wearing your biking clothes, isn't
    subtle at all.

    Chalo Colina

  12. Per Tom:

    Quoted message said:

    Strangely enough I was 2 minutes (!!!) faster.

    I stumbled on to the same phenom comparing cargo pants to cycling shorts.

    Made a believer out of me: aerodynamics is a beeeeeg factor in cycling.
    --
    PeteCresswell

  13. In article
    <[email hidden]>,

    Chalo said:
    Tom said:


    I felt EXTREMELY self concious the first time I wore them and tried my
    circuit. Strangely enough I was 2 minutes (!!!) faster. The next day I
    wore my jeans and t-shirt and got my normal time. Shorts and jersey
    again and - two minutes faster! I went back and forth for a week
    because I couldn't believe that could be the case.

    But it was.

    You can measure the difference on a familiar circuit when using disc
    wheels, too. Like cycling clothes, those have benefits that, while
    measurable, are rarely significant for most cyclists-- but they have
    significant drawbacks that abbreviate their practical uses.

    If you want more company out there (or merely more safety in numbers),
    then you should wear real clothes when you ride. SuperGeek Underoos
    are a big part of the reason that regular people don't think cycling is
    for regular people. Ain't nobody gonna want to join your team if they
    think they'll have to wear _that_ uniform.

    Over the last couple of years in my neighborhood, I have noticed that
    the more young hipsters ride bike in their normal clothes, the more
    other young hipsters do the same. The increase in numbers has been
    noticeable.

    Quoted message said:

    Maybe you don't want to wear it and if so that's fine but when you're
    going up the hill on Market Street remember that part of the reason
    that guy rides by you like you're standing still is the clothing.

    I think you are overstating the potential benefits here. I have
    switched both to and away from cycling shorts and clipless shoes, and
    while there was a performance difference, it was not like you describe.
    The change in performance is subtle; the change in your appearance,
    and in what else you can do while wearing your biking clothes, isn't
    subtle at all.

    Normal trousers for me are plain cotton. Extended
    bicycling destroys them through chafing. Also they sponge
    up water and do not release it. They get dirty faster. I
    switched to bib knickers

    Around town I wear street clothes.

    --
    Michael Press

  14. Michael Press said:


    Normal trousers for me are plain cotton. Extended
    bicycling destroys them through chafing. Also they sponge
    up water and do not release it. They get dirty faster. I
    switched to bib knickers

    I ride in the same pants I always wear, bibs... but not the kind you
    wear. I wear denim bib overalls.

    By the time they are threatening to blow out in the crotch, they are
    usually threatening to give up in a few other ways too. I retire them
    either because they have suffered an irreversible pocket failure or
    because I have uprooted a few too many of their buttons.

    Chalo

  15. Callistus Valerius said:

    The test is how long you wear cycling gear, AFTER the ride. It takes me
    5 minutes to get out of that stuff. Comfortable on the bike, but crappy off
    the bike. It amazes me to see guys drive a 100 miles home, wearing the same
    [censored] they rode in all day.

    The nastiest is the people who finish a ride in which they used
    cycling shorts, then pull on normal clothes *over* those clothes
    afterewards. WTF?

    JT

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  16. Michael Press said:

    In article
    <[email hidden]>,

    Chalo said:
    Tom said:

    I felt EXTREMELY self concious the first time I wore them and tried my
    circuit. Strangely enough I was 2 minutes (!!!) faster. The next day I
    wore my jeans and t-shirt and got my normal time. Shorts and jersey
    again and - two minutes faster! I went back and forth for a week
    because I couldn't believe that could be the case.

    But it was.


    You can measure the difference on a familiar circuit when using disc
    wheels, too. Like cycling clothes, those have benefits that, while
    measurable, are rarely significant for most cyclists-- but they have
    significant drawbacks that abbreviate their practical uses.

    If you want more company out there (or merely more safety in numbers),
    then you should wear real clothes when you ride. SuperGeek Underoos
    are a big part of the reason that regular people don't think cycling is
    for regular people. Ain't nobody gonna want to join your team if they
    think they'll have to wear _that_ uniform.

    Over the last couple of years in my neighborhood, I have noticed that
    the more young hipsters ride bike in their normal clothes, the more
    other young hipsters do the same. The increase in numbers has been
    noticeable.

    Quoted message said:

    Maybe you don't want to wear it and if so that's fine but when you're
    going up the hill on Market Street remember that part of the reason
    that guy rides by you like you're standing still is the clothing.


    I think you are overstating the potential benefits here. I have
    switched both to and away from cycling shorts and clipless shoes, and
    while there was a performance difference, it was not like you describe.
    The change in performance is subtle; the change in your appearance,
    and in what else you can do while wearing your biking clothes, isn't
    subtle at all.

    Normal trousers for me are plain cotton. Extended
    bicycling destroys them through chafing. Also they sponge
    up water and do not release it. They get dirty faster. I
    switched to bib knickers

    Around town I wear street clothes.

    While it's true that pushing the envelope of distance, speed or effort
    raise issues of performance and comfort, it doesn't necessarily follow
    that cycling-specific clothes are the only answer, nor do performance
    and comfort justify a lot of the aesthetic characteristics of cycling
    clothing.

    There are garments that fall in between the two extremes. You can find
    t-shirts and even collared shirts in wicking, non-absorbent materials,
    ditto for jackets, vests and pullovers. While they might not have the
    aerodynamic cut of cycling-specific tops, often the same effect can be
    had by going down a size. It's a little more difficult to find shorts
    and pants in the "middle zone". Most of the garments in "performance"
    fabrics are cut baggy, but that's mostly an aerodynamic issue below the
    knee, so slightly baggy shorts aren't a real problem. For long pants, I
    use "warm-ups" made from 4-way stretch fabric, cut a bit less than
    skin-tight, plain black, with thin (black) full-length side zippers.

    You can buy light weight (6 oz, typically) bike shorts and wear them
    under lightweight, dark-colored, cargo or soccer shorts -- or buy the
    equivalent setup in "baggy" cycle shorts. Rayon and polyester collared
    shirts are easy to find, I've found polo shirts in Coolmax (Dacron),
    Coolmax and other branded performance fabrics are cheaply and widely
    available in t-shirts.

    Of course you don't have to wear yellow, red or silver cycling shoes, or
    shoes with deep treaded soles or protruding cleats. High visibility tops
    are a safety feature, but you can get the same advantage from vests,
    gloves and ankle bands, which are easy removed once off the bike.

  17. my my, aren't you the pragmatist! and clever, too!

    as to the cost of the rivbike stuff....i think $28 for a sleeveless
    t-shirt made of Merino wool is not a bad deal. i've not seen plastic
    jerseys that cheap.

    Ken said:

    "sal bass" <[email hidden]> wrote in
    news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:

    is it made of wool or plastic?

    Only geeks care about style over function.

  18. I ride my bike to and from work...5.5 miles each way...11.0 miles a day
    in cotton slacks. No issues, though I'm not riding 100 miles non-stop.
    I sweat like a stuck pig, but dry out pretty quick once off the bike.

    Randolf

  19. sal bass said:

    my my, aren't you the pragmatist! and clever, too!

    as to the cost of the rivbike stuff....i think $28 for a sleeveless
    t-shirt made of Merino wool is not a bad deal. i've not seen plastic
    jerseys that cheap.

    My first jersey was $25 and came with a free pair of bike shorts. My
    second jersey was $50 and came with a free pair of bike shorts. I'm
    currently tempted by a $10 jersey that comes with a free pair of bike
    shorts even if the fabric isn't coolmax.

    Now, I know I have a major advantage in that I go shopping in the same
    country most clothing is made in these days but still it surely must be
    possible to get end of season discounts or something like that.

    -M

  20. Callistus Valerius said:
    Quoted message said:

    When I came back to cycling I knew one thing - I was never going to
    wear that geeky clothing no matter what.

    The test is how long you wear cycling gear, AFTER the ride. It takes me
    5 minutes to get out of that stuff. Comfortable on the bike, but crappy off
    the bike.

    Isn't that the same for sweat soaked 'normal' clothes?

    Quoted message said:

    It amazes me to see guys drive a 100 miles home, wearing the same
    [censored] they rode in all day.

    Yes, that is disgusting.

    Lou

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