German chains with special opening link

Andrew Swan <[email hidden]> wrote in :"]news:[email hidden]:

Quoted message said:

Bought one of these at my LBS tonight - always had Shimano jobs before.

Anyone have any first-hand experience of them? I'm talking about the 8/9 speed chains with a
special link that you can undo by hand when the chain's not under tension.

&roo

I've been using them for years. They are excellent. To remove the link, first clean it and then
squeeze the side plates together, while pushing the ends.

Peter Gordon

Quoted message said:

Anyone have any first-hand experience of them? I'm talking about the 8/9 speed chains with a
special link that you can undo by hand when the chain's not under tension.

If you talking about the Wipperman ones then I found that the joiner links break. I broke two of the
links after about 2000 km, the chain plates crack and then the pin drops out.

Quoted message said:

If you talking about the Wipperman ones then I found that the joiner links break. I broke two of
the links after about 2000 km, the chain plates crack and then the pin drops out.

He's possibly talking about the SACHS (used to be Sedis) with the two identical joining side links,
each has a pin and an elongated hole for the opposing pin.... gold in colour. They even make a fancy
9spd chain with hollow pins for reduced weight and corresponsding frightening cost! I've only used
the cheaper one on other half's training bike, easy to remove so it can be cleaned with the
coke-bottle-with-kero-shakem trick. Gemma

I think they are fantastic, make chain cleaning easy. sometimes they are hard to undo. The trick is
to spray with WD40 so they are clean and they undo at an angle. I cannot describe it better, I did
find a web page that showed it but have lost the link.

Andrew Swan said:

Bought one of these at my LBS tonight - always had Shimano jobs before.

Anyone have any first-hand experience of them? I'm talking about the
8/9 speed chains with a special link that you can undo by hand when the chain's not under tension.

&roo

Peter Jansen said:

Quoted message said:

Anyone have any first-hand experience of them? I'm talking about the 8/9 speed chains with a
special link that you can undo by hand when the chain's not under tension.

If you talking about the Wipperman ones then I found that the joiner links break. I broke two of
the links after about 2000 km, the chain plates crack and then the pin drops out.

Yes, it is a Wipperman - I forgot the name and was too lazy to get the box from the garage! :-)

The joining links sound like the same ones on the Sachs chain as described by Gemma in her post.

Hope it bears up OK.

&roo

Jack Russell <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

I think they are fantastic, make chain cleaning easy. sometimes they are hard to undo. The trick
is to spray with WD40 so they are clean and they undo at an angle. I cannot describe it better, I
did find a web page that showed it but have lost the link.

No pun intended :o)
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DFM