Get active in Norfolk

"Tom Crispin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Stolen fron the CTC Newsnet.

www.activenorfolk.org/page.asp?section=00010001000300060003

Shoot the copy writer.

Tom Crispin said:

Stolen fron the CTC Newsnet.

www.activenorfolk.org/page.asp?section=00010001000300060003

In fairness, I don't think it's an anti-cycling bias. I'm choosing to
put this one down to ignorance rather than mailce.

Much of the rest of the site is filled with content of a similar
"quality", but presented as fact.

Ho hum,

bookieb

bookieb said:

On Mar 2, 10:56 pm, Tom Crispin

Quoted message said:

Stolen fron the CTC Newsnet.

Quoted message said:

www.activenorfolk.org/page.asp?section=00010001000300060003

In fairness, I don't think it's an anti-cycling bias. I'm choosing to
put this one down to ignorance rather than mailce.

Much of the rest of the site is filled with content of a similar
"quality", but presented as fact.

Ho hum,

bookieb

No, sod it anyway, the more I though about it, the more it annoyed me.

This missive just dispatched to: [email hidden]

*** Begins ***
Dear Sir/Madam,

I refer to your web page located at:

http://www.activenorfolk.org/page.asp?section=00010001000300060003&itemTitle=Cycling

To someone considering taking up cycling, or coming back to back to it
after a few years off, the wording of this page is off-putting.

The article is 224 words long. 40 words are positive [1], 46 words
are neutral, or convey a mixed message [2].

The remainer of the article (138 words) is entirely negative in tone.
Specifically, the following suggestions are made:

1. Cycling may be unsuitable for office workers.
2. Cycling may be unsuitable for those who work sitting down.
3. Cycling may cause or exacebate rounded shoulders, and/or a stoop.
4. Cycling may cause or exacerbate a sore neck or back ache.
5. Cycling may cause twisted knee and ankle joints
6. "An excessive amount of cycling" may cause infertility in males.

Can you provide any reputable references or evidence for any of the
above suggestions?

If the objective of this page to encourage people to consider cycling
as a means of enjoying some exercise, I would suggest that you might
consider reviewing its tone and content. Many websites and
publications with similar aims to your own put a general caveat around
suggestions for particular forms of exercise, e.g. "you should consult
your Doctor before begininng on this or any progam of exercise" .

I agree wholeheartedly with you aims and intentions of encouraging
fitness and phyical activity in Norfolk, but I fell that this page is
more likely to cause people to sink back onto the couch than anything
else.

Yours sincerely,

<name removed for usenet>

[1]:
"In general, cycling, even for quite short periods, will bring
positive health benefits. "
"Now you can find your local cycle paths and have some fun - no need
to call it exercise, but your health will take a leap forward."

[2]
"An excellent exercise for many people, but not for everyone. "
"Now for some positive slants: visiting a good bike shop and not
leaving until the resident expert has helped you to set your bike up
to suit you will make the whole experience much more enjoyable."
*** Ends ***

These people are (presumably) using public money to produce and
distribute this content - it should be of a higher standard than it
currently is.

Grrr.. <shakes fist angrily>

bookieb

On 3 Mar 2007 03:55:11 -0800, "bookieb" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

bookieb said:

On Mar 2, 10:56 pm, Tom Crispin

Quoted message said:

Stolen fron the CTC Newsnet.

Quoted message said:

www.activenorfolk.org/page.asp?section=00010001000300060003

In fairness, I don't think it's an anti-cycling bias. I'm choosing to
put this one down to ignorance rather than mailce.

Much of the rest of the site is filled with content of a similar
"quality", but presented as fact.

Ho hum,

bookieb

No, sod it anyway, the more I though about it, the more it annoyed me.

This missive just dispatched to: [email hidden]

*** Begins ***
Dear Sir/Madam,

I refer to your web page located at:

http://www.activenorfolk.org/page.asp?section=00010001000300060003&itemTitle=Cycling

To someone considering taking up cycling, or coming back to back to it
after a few years off, the wording of this page is off-putting.

The article is 224 words long. 40 words are positive [1], 46 words
are neutral, or convey a mixed message [2].

The remainer of the article (138 words) is entirely negative in tone.
Specifically, the following suggestions are made:

1. Cycling may be unsuitable for office workers.
2. Cycling may be unsuitable for those who work sitting down.
3. Cycling may cause or exacebate rounded shoulders, and/or a stoop.
4. Cycling may cause or exacerbate a sore neck or back ache.
5. Cycling may cause twisted knee and ankle joints
6. "An excessive amount of cycling" may cause infertility in males.

Can you provide any reputable references or evidence for any of the
above suggestions?

If the objective of this page to encourage people to consider cycling
as a means of enjoying some exercise, I would suggest that you might
consider reviewing its tone and content. Many websites and
publications with similar aims to your own put a general caveat around
suggestions for particular forms of exercise, e.g. "you should consult
your Doctor before begininng on this or any progam of exercise" .

I agree wholeheartedly with you aims and intentions of encouraging
fitness and phyical activity in Norfolk, but I fell that this page is
more likely to cause people to sink back onto the couch than anything
else.

Yours sincerely,

<name removed for usenet>

[1]:
"In general, cycling, even for quite short periods, will bring
positive health benefits. "
"Now you can find your local cycle paths and have some fun - no need
to call it exercise, but your health will take a leap forward."

[2]
"An excellent exercise for many people, but not for everyone. "
"Now for some positive slants: visiting a good bike shop and not
leaving until the resident expert has helped you to set your bike up
to suit you will make the whole experience much more enjoyable."
*** Ends ***

These people are (presumably) using public money to produce and
distribute this content - it should be of a higher standard than it
currently is.

Grrr.. <shakes fist angrily>

My email was a little more direct.

==========

Quoted message said:

-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Crispin
Sent: 02 March 2007 22:59
To: [email hidden]'
Subject: Your website

Your page on cycling is simply pathetic.

==========

bookieb said:

bookieb said:

On Mar 2, 10:56 pm, Tom Crispin

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Stolen fron the CTC Newsnet.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

www.activenorfolk.org/page.asp?section=00010001000300060003

Quoted message said:

In fairness, I don't think it's an anti-cycling bias. I'm choosing to
put this one down to ignorance rather than mailce.

Quoted message said:

Much of the rest of the site is filled with content of a similar
"quality", but presented as fact.

Quoted message said:

Ho hum,

Quoted message said:

bookieb

No, sod it anyway, the more I though about it, the more it annoyed me.

This missive just dispatched to: [email hidden]

*** Begins ***
Dear Sir/Madam,

I refer to your web page located at:

http://www.activenorfolk.org/page.asp?section=00010001000300060003&it...

To someone considering taking up cycling, or coming back to back to it
after a few years off, the wording of this page is off-putting.

The article is 224 words long. 40 words are positive [1], 46 words
are neutral, or convey a mixed message [2].

The remainer of the article (138 words) is entirely negative in tone.
Specifically, the following suggestions are made:

1. Cycling may be unsuitable for office workers.
2. Cycling may be unsuitable for those who work sitting down.
3. Cycling may cause or exacebate rounded shoulders, and/or a stoop.
4. Cycling may cause or exacerbate a sore neck or back ache.
5. Cycling may cause twisted knee and ankle joints
6. "An excessive amount of cycling" may cause infertility in males.

Can you provide any reputable references or evidence for any of the
above suggestions?

If the objective of this page to encourage people to consider cycling
as a means of enjoying some exercise, I would suggest that you might
consider reviewing its tone and content. Many websites and
publications with similar aims to your own put a general caveat around
suggestions for particular forms of exercise, e.g. "you should consult
your Doctor before begininng on this or any progam of exercise" .

I agree wholeheartedly with you aims and intentions of encouraging
fitness and phyical activity in Norfolk, but I fell that this page is
more likely to cause people to sink back onto the couch than anything
else.

Yours sincerely,

<name removed for usenet>

[1]:
"In general, cycling, even for quite short periods, will bring
positive health benefits. "
"Now you can find your local cycle paths and have some fun - no need
to call it exercise, but your health will take a leap forward."

[2]
"An excellent exercise for many people, but not for everyone. "
"Now for some positive slants: visiting a good bike shop and not
leaving until the resident expert has helped you to set your bike up
to suit you will make the whole experience much more enjoyable."
*** Ends ***

These people are (presumably) using public money to produce and
distribute this content - it should be of a higher standard than it
currently is.

Grrr.. <shakes fist angrily>

bookieb

It would certainly scare me off cycling.

John Kane, Kingston ON Canada

Tom Crispin said:

On 3 Mar 2007 03:55:11 -0800, "bookieb" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

bookieb said:

On Mar 2, 10:56 pm, Tom Crispin

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

<[email hidden]> wrote:
> Stolen fron the CTC Newsnet.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

>www.activenorfolk.org/page.asp?section=00010001000300060003

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

In fairness, I don't think it's an anti-cycling bias. I'm choosing to
put this one down to ignorance rather than mailce.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Much of the rest of the site is filled with content of a similar
"quality", but presented as fact.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Ho hum,

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

bookieb

Quoted message said:

No, sod it anyway, the more I though about it, the more it annoyed me.

Quoted message said:

This missive just dispatched to: [email hidden]

Quoted message said:

*** Begins ***
Dear Sir/Madam,

Quoted message said:

I refer to your web page located at:

Quoted message said:

http://www.activenorfolk.org/page.asp?section=00010001000300060003&it...

Quoted message said:

To someone considering taking up cycling, or coming back to back to it
after a few years off, the wording of this page is off-putting.

Quoted message said:

The article is 224 words long. 40 words are positive [1], 46 words
are neutral, or convey a mixed message [2].

Quoted message said:

The remainer of the article (138 words) is entirely negative in tone.
Specifically, the following suggestions are made:

Quoted message said:

1. Cycling may be unsuitable for office workers.
2. Cycling may be unsuitable for those who work sitting down.
3. Cycling may cause or exacebate rounded shoulders, and/or a stoop.
4. Cycling may cause or exacerbate a sore neck or back ache.
5. Cycling may cause twisted knee and ankle joints
6. "An excessive amount of cycling" may cause infertility in males.

Quoted message said:

Can you provide any reputable references or evidence for any of the
above suggestions?

Quoted message said:

If the objective of this page to encourage people to consider cycling
as a means of enjoying some exercise, I would suggest that you might
consider reviewing its tone and content. Many websites and
publications with similar aims to your own put a general caveat around
suggestions for particular forms of exercise, e.g. "you should consult
your Doctor before begininng on this or any progam of exercise" .

Quoted message said:

I agree wholeheartedly with you aims and intentions of encouraging
fitness and phyical activity in Norfolk, but I fell that this page is
more likely to cause people to sink back onto the couch than anything
else.

Quoted message said:

Yours sincerely,

Quoted message said:

<name removed for usenet>

Quoted message said:

[1]:
"In general, cycling, even for quite short periods, will bring
positive health benefits. "
"Now you can find your local cycle paths and have some fun - no need
to call it exercise, but your health will take a leap forward."

Quoted message said:

[2]
"An excellent exercise for many people, but not for everyone. "
"Now for some positive slants: visiting a good bike shop and not
leaving until the resident expert has helped you to set your bike up
to suit you will make the whole experience much more enjoyable."
*** Ends ***

Quoted message said:

These people are (presumably) using public money to produce and
distribute this content - it should be of a higher standard than it
currently is.

Quoted message said:

Grrr.. <shakes fist angrily>

My email was a little more direct.

==========

Quoted message said:

-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Crispin
Sent: 02 March 2007 22:59
To: [email hidden]'
Subject: Your website

Quoted message said:

Your page on cycling is simply pathetic.

==========

Yours is bang on what I think, but I was *trying* to be
constructive :-)

Let's see if it gets changed...

Regads,

bookieb

bookieb said:

On Mar 3, 12:36 pm, Tom Crispin

Quoted message said:

On 3 Mar 2007 03:55:11 -0800, "bookieb" <[email hidden]>
wrote:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

On Mar 3, 11:19 am, "bookieb" <[email hidden]> wrote:
> On Mar 2, 10:56 pm, Tom Crispin

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> <[email hidden]> wrote:
> > Stolen fron the CTC Newsnet.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> >www.activenorfolk.org/page.asp?section=00010001000300060003

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> In fairness, I don't think it's an anti-cycling bias. I'm choosing to
> put this one down to ignorance rather than mailce.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> Much of the rest of the site is filled with content of a similar
> "quality", but presented as fact.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> Ho hum,

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> bookieb

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

No, sod it anyway, the more I though about it, the more it annoyed me.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

This missive just dispatched to: [email hidden]

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

*** Begins ***
Dear Sir/Madam,

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I refer to your web page located at:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

http://www.activenorfolk.org/page.asp?section=00010001000300060003&it...

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

To someone considering taking up cycling, or coming back to back to it
after a few years off, the wording of this page is off-putting.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

The article is 224 words long. 40 words are positive [1], 46 words
are neutral, or convey a mixed message [2].

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

The remainer of the article (138 words) is entirely negative in tone.
Specifically, the following suggestions are made:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

1. Cycling may be unsuitable for office workers.
2. Cycling may be unsuitable for those who work sitting down.
3. Cycling may cause or exacebate rounded shoulders, and/or a stoop.
4. Cycling may cause or exacerbate a sore neck or back ache.
5. Cycling may cause twisted knee and ankle joints
6. "An excessive amount of cycling" may cause infertility in males.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Can you provide any reputable references or evidence for any of the
above suggestions?

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

If the objective of this page to encourage people to consider cycling
as a means of enjoying some exercise, I would suggest that you might
consider reviewing its tone and content. Many websites and
publications with similar aims to your own put a general caveat around
suggestions for particular forms of exercise, e.g. "you should consult
your Doctor before begininng on this or any progam of exercise" .

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I agree wholeheartedly with you aims and intentions of encouraging
fitness and phyical activity in Norfolk, but I fell that this page is
more likely to cause people to sink back onto the couch than anything
else.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Yours sincerely,

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

<name removed for usenet>

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

[1]:
"In general, cycling, even for quite short periods, will bring
positive health benefits. "
"Now you can find your local cycle paths and have some fun - no need
to call it exercise, but your health will take a leap forward."

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

[2]
"An excellent exercise for many people, but not for everyone. "
"Now for some positive slants: visiting a good bike shop and not
leaving until the resident expert has helped you to set your bike up
to suit you will make the whole experience much more enjoyable."
*** Ends ***

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

These people are (presumably) using public money to produce and
distribute this content - it should be of a higher standard than it
currently is.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Grrr.. <shakes fist angrily>

Quoted message said:

My email was a little more direct.

Quoted message said:

==========

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Crispin
Sent: 02 March 2007 22:59
To: [email hidden]'
Subject: Your website

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Your page on cycling is simply pathetic.

Quoted message said:

==========

Yours is bang on what I think, but I was *trying* to be
constructive :-)

Let's see if it gets changed...

Regads,

bookieb

Page is gone 404 - presumably to be updated?

That was quick!

bookieb

bookieb said:

Page is gone 404 - presumably to be updated?

Now moved to:
http://www.activenorfolk.org/page.asp?section=00010001000300060005&itemTitle=Cycling

AND updated! It's not brilliant, but it's better.

Quoted message said:

That was quick!

Indeed.

Mike

Mike Causer said:

bookieb said:

Page is gone 404 - presumably to be updated?

Now moved to:
http://www.activenorfolk.org/page.asp?section=00010001000300060005&itemTitle=Cycling

AND updated! It's not brilliant, but it's better.

It's very close to billiant.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

That was quick!

Indeed.

Indeed, indeed!

Mike Causer said:

bookieb said:

Page is gone 404 - presumably to be updated?

Now moved to:
http://www.activenorfolk.org/page.asp?section=00010001000300060005&itemTitle=Cycling

AND updated! It's not brilliant, but it's better.

Can't specifically see a problem with it.

Facts seem sound to me.

Avoids the main contraversies (helmets, whether roads are safe or not,
cyclepaths, etc. ).

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

That was quick!

Indeed.

Yes, surprised, but pleasantly surprised.

- Nigel

--
Nigel Cliffe,
Webmaster at http://www.2mm.org.uk/

On Mon, 5 Mar 2007 18:57:52 -0000, "Nigel Cliffe" <[email hidden]>

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Quoted message said:

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That was quick!

Indeed.

Yes, surprised, but pleasantly surprised.

http://tinyurl.com/3y7hdf

from:

http://www.activenorfolk.org/news.asp?section=000100010005&itemid=415&itemTitle=Active+Norfolk+Receives+the+Wooden+Spoon+from+CTC