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  1. Hi, im riding a boulder 2004 se bike, with an rst capa cl fork. THe
    fork is ok, but some bits over heavy rock are really rough. I was
    thinking of upgrading the fork to a second hand mazarocci z5 2001.
    What do you people think of that, considering I weigh about 54 kilos.
    I do some rough trail riding, at reasonably high speeds, with drops
    usually less than 1 meter.
    now heres the real problem: I use a 19 inch frame. If I buy just any
    fork, will it fit? DO I need to get a special type or a special
    adaptor?

    Thankss

  2. Arpit said:

    Hi, im riding a boulder 2004 se bike, with an rst capa cl fork. THe fork
    is ok, but some bits over heavy rock are really rough. I was thinking of
    upgrading the fork to a second hand mazarocci z5 2001. What do you
    people think of that, considering I weigh about 54 kilos. I do some
    rough trail riding, at reasonably high speeds, with drops usually less
    than 1 meter. now heres the real problem: I use a 19 inch frame. If I
    buy just any fork, will it fit? DO I need to get a special type or a
    special adaptor? Thankss

    Any Marzzocchi fork will be a big step up from your RST. The Z5 is a
    lower end fork but can be tuned to your weight & riding style. At your
    (light) weight you may need a softer spring. Check any secondhand forks
    very carefully for cracks or damage, don't want to be buying trouble.
    You need to ensure that your new fork has a long enough steerer tube for
    your frame. Measure your existing fork from the crown to top of stem.
    You can always shorten it if necessary. 🙂

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  3. Quoted message said:

    Any Marzzocchi fork will be a big step up from your RST. The Z5 is a
    lower end fork but can be tuned to your weight & riding style. At your
    (light) weight you may need a softer spring. Check any secondhand forks
    very carefully for cracks or damage, don't want to be buying trouble.
    You need to ensure that your new fork has a long enough steerer tube for
    your frame. Measure your existing fork from the crown to top of stem.
    You can always shorten it if necessary. 🙂

    Good advice. Think you'll find most Z5s of that vintage sold in Aus
    were air shocks, therefore easy to tune for a light rider. You might
    need to change to a lighter oil, or run them a little less full.
    Check especially for cracks around the dropouts, also for any sign
    of seal leakage.

  4. Bikesoiler said:
    Arpit said:

    Hi, im riding a boulder 2004 se bike, with an rst capa cl fork. THe fork
    is ok, but some bits over heavy rock are really rough. I was thinking of
    upgrading the fork to a second hand mazarocci z5 2001. What do you
    people think of that, considering I weigh about 54 kilos. I do some
    rough trail riding, at reasonably high speeds, with drops usually less
    than 1 meter. now heres the real problem: I use a 19 inch frame. If I
    buy just any fork, will it fit? DO I need to get a special type or a
    special adaptor? Thankss

    Any Marzzocchi fork will be a big step up from your RST. The Z5 is a
    lower end fork but can be tuned to your weight & riding style. At your
    (light) weight you may need a softer spring. Check any secondhand forks
    very carefully for cracks or damage, don't want to be buying trouble.
    You need to ensure that your new fork has a long enough steerer tube for
    your frame. Measure your existing fork from the crown to top of stem.
    You can always shorten it if necessary. :

    cool, thanks 🙂 hmm, I went to the bike shop and asked them about it,
    they said "oh no, you wont want to get an old second hand one, and
    they said the z5s just didnt work :/ then again they also told me not
    to use turpentine to clean the chain/deraillers , and wanted to sell
    me an aerosol of 20 dollar citrus grease, so i don't know where their
    priorities lie.... they said to get a rockshox- a judy for about 200
    dollars new. what do you think of that?

  5. Arpit said:

    On 27 Oct 2003 11:10:31 +1050, Bikesoiler
    <[email hidden]> wrote:
    cool, thanks 🙂 hmm, I went to the bike shop and asked them about it,
    they said "oh no, you wont want to get an old second hand one, and they
    said the z5s just didnt work :/ then again they also told me not to use
    turpentine to clean the chain/deraillers , and wanted to sell me an
    aerosol of 20 dollar citrus grease, so i don't know where their
    priorities lie.... they said to get a rockshox- a judy for about 200
    dollars new. what do you think of that?

    The shop obviously wants to sell you what they stock, nothing wrong with
    that, IF it's what you need/want. For that price (~$200) it sounds like
    a Judy TT. I wouldn't recomend anything lower than a Judy XC, it has
    dampning control & costs about $500+ new. Unfortunately most "real"
    suspension forks start at this price. You want to spend you money on the
    best upgrade that will last for your next few years of riding. Better to
    get a good condition, higher-end, secondhand fork, than something
    cheaper that isn't much of a step up. Do some reading on the different
    brands & list each option from the well known manufacturers. Then you
    will know what to look for secondhand.

    Also citrus solvent (Citro Clean) can be found at the supermarket for $7
    ~ $8 & works really well as a drivetrain cleaner.

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  6. "Bikesoiler" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    I wouldn't recomend anything lower than a Judy XC, it has
    dampning control & costs about $500+ new. Unfortunately most "real"
    suspension forks start at this price.

    I bought an OEM Marzocchi MX Comp air fork
    from www.phantomcycles.com.au for $400 a
    while back. MASSIVE improvement over the
    RST 381's the bike came with.

    Some people swear by RockShox (usually the
    higher end XC ones) whereas others swear at
    them. All manufacturers have bad runs but when
    I bought mine, Marzocchi seemed to be getting
    a good rap, along with Fox and to a lesser
    extent Manitou.

    You have to weigh up the cost of your bike
    versus the cost of a new fork versus the cost
    of a new bike with a nicer fork :-)

    hippy

  7. hippy said:

    "Bikesoiler" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    I wouldn't recomend anything lower than a Judy XC, it has
    dampning control & costs about $500+ new. Unfortunately most "real"
    suspension forks start at this price.

    I bought an OEM Marzocchi MX Comp air fork
    from www.phantomcycles.com.au for $400 a
    while back. MASSIVE improvement over the
    RST 381's the bike came with.

    cool, improvement in what way?

    Quoted message said:


    Some people swear by RockShox (usually the
    higher end XC ones) whereas others swear at
    them. All manufacturers have bad runs but when
    I bought mine, Marzocchi seemed to be getting
    a good rap, along with Fox and to a lesser
    extent Manitou.

    You have to weigh up the cost of your bike
    versus the cost of a new fork versus the cost
    of a new bike with a nicer fork :-)

    Yeah, I paid 425 dollars for my bike,

    Quoted message said:

    hippy

  8. "Arpit" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I bought an OEM Marzocchi MX Comp air fork
    from www.phantomcycles.com.au for $400 a
    while back. MASSIVE improvement over the
    RST 381's the bike came with.

    cool, improvement in what way?

    It's hard to explain, but basically, throwing the bike
    off everyday stuff it is SOOO much smoother than
    the RST's. Instead of thump crash thud, it's just
    zoop and continue. The RSTs also had a horrid
    topout knock, ie. when yanking back on the bars
    the front wheel moves down away from the bars
    and hits the limit of extension and makes a yukky
    thud noise.
    They don't seem to just bounce up and down when
    riding. They move but there is more restriction in
    when pedalling normally compared to the RSTs.
    They feel more solid compared to the obvious
    flex found in the RSTs. They look better too 😉

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    You have to weigh up the cost of your bike
    versus the cost of a new fork versus the cost
    of a new bike with a nicer fork :-)

    Yeah, I paid 425 dollars for my bike,

    So $400 for forks might not be such a wise
    investment! :-)

    Remember though, if you put expensive forks
    on your current bike, you can always take them
    off again and put them on your next bike.

    hippy

  9. 'then again they also told me not to use turpentine to clean the
    chain/deraillers'

    I though Kerosine was the one to use. Is Turps OK?

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  10. its_stuart said:


    'then again they also told me not to use turpentine to clean the
    chain/deraillers'

    I though Kerosine was the one to use. Is Turps OK?

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    I used to use petrol, then I switched to kerosene because I was told
    petol stripped all the oils away whereas kero left some sort of
    protective hair-conditioner type thing.
    Then I switched to a LBS $ 20 for a wee spray-can citrus oil thing
    because it smelled nice and said it was Good For The Environment (which
    of course compared to petrol or kerosine is damn right) and one's
    share-house folks didn't complain about the smell... (which raises the
    OTB question of fire-stick feckin' wanke... ahem, fire-stick artists,
    and their kero smells...)
    Then to big $ 5 citrus-all-purpose-cleaner from the supermarket, which
    does the same thing.

    Turpentine? Seriously? Fine for oil paints, but I can't see it being
    useful for drive-train cleaning.

    [censored]

    p

  11. Fred Nieman said:

    Turpentine? Seriously? Fine for oil paints, but I can't see it being
    useful for drive-train cleaning.


    Works SUPER well

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    p

  12. Arpit said:


    Fred Nieman said:

    Turpentine? Seriously? Fine for oil paints, but I can't see it being
    useful for drive-train cleaning.


    Works SUPER well

    Ah, I guess I'm wrong, then. Citrus oil stuff is a bit annoyingly only
    so-so.
    But if I drank it, I probably wouldn't slice my <insert Van Gogh and oil
    paints joke here> ear off.
    p

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