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  1. Hi, im riding a boulder 2004 se bike, with an rst capa cl fork. THe fork is ok, but some bits over
    heavy rock are really rough. I was thinking of upgrading the fork to a second hand mazarocci z5
    2001. What do you people think of that, considering I weigh about 54 kilos. I do some rough trail
    riding, at reasonably high speeds, with drops usually less than 1 meter. now heres the real problem:
    I use a 19 inch frame. If I buy just any fork, will it fit? DO I need to get a special type or a
    special adaptor?

    Thankss

  2. Quoted post said:

    Originally posted by Arpit
    Hi, im riding a boulder 2004 se bike, with an rst capa cl fork. THe fork is ok, but some bits over
    heavy rock are really rough. I was thinking of upgrading the fork to a second hand mazarocci z5
    2001. What do you people think of that, considering I weigh about 54 kilos. I do some rough trail
    riding, at reasonably high speeds, with drops usually less than 1 meter. now heres the real problem:
    I use a 19 inch frame. If I buy just any fork, will it fit? DO I need to get a special type or a
    special adaptor? Thankss

    Any Marzzocchi fork will be a big step up from your RST. The Z5 is a lower end fork but can be tuned to your weight & riding style. At your (light) weight you may need a softer spring. Check any secondhand forks very carefully for cracks or damage, don't want to be buying trouble. You need to ensure that your new fork has a long enough steerer tube for your frame. Measure your existing fork from the crown to top of stem. You can always shorten it if necessary. 🙂

  3. Quoted message said:

    Any Marzzocchi fork will be a big step up from your RST. The Z5 is a lower end fork but can be
    tuned to your weight & riding style. At your (light) weight you may need a softer spring. Check
    any secondhand forks very carefully for cracks or damage, don't want to be buying trouble. You
    need to ensure that your new fork has a long enough steerer tube for your frame. Measure your
    existing fork from the crown to top of stem. You can always shorten it if necessary. 🙂

    Good advice. Think you'll find most Z5s of that vintage sold in Aus were air shocks, therefore easy
    to tune for a light rider. You might need to change to a lighter oil, or run them a little less
    full. Check especially for cracks around the dropouts, also for any sign of seal leakage.

  4. Bikesoiler said:
    Arpit said:

    Hi, im riding a boulder 2004 se bike, with an rst capa cl fork. THe fork is ok, but some bits
    over heavy rock are really rough. I was thinking of upgrading the fork to a second hand
    mazarocci z5 2001. What do you people think of that, considering I weigh about 54 kilos. I do
    some rough trail riding, at reasonably high speeds, with drops usually less than 1 meter. now
    heres the real problem: I use a 19 inch frame. If I buy just any fork, will it fit? DO I need
    to get a special type or a special adaptor? Thankss

    Any Marzzocchi fork will be a big step up from your RST. The Z5 is a lower end fork but can be
    tuned to your weight & riding style. At your (light) weight you may need a softer spring. Check any
    secondhand forks very carefully for cracks or damage, don't want to be buying trouble. You need to
    ensure that your new fork has a long enough steerer tube for your frame. Measure your existing fork
    from the crown to top of stem. You can always shorten it if necessary. :

    cool, thanks 🙂 hmm, I went to the bike shop and asked them about it, they said "oh no, you wont
    want to get an old second hand one, and they said the z5s just didnt work :/ then again they also
    told me not to use turpentine to clean the chain/deraillers , and wanted to sell me an aerosol of 20
    dollar citrus grease, so i don't know where their priorities lie.... they said to get a rockshox- a
    judy for about 200 dollars new. what do you think of that?

  5. Quoted post said:

    Originally posted by Arpit
    On 27 Oct 2003 11:10:31 +1050, Bikesoiler <[email hidden]> wrote:

    cool, thanks 🙂 hmm, I went to the bike shop and asked them about it, they said "oh no, you wont
    want to get an old second hand one, and they said the z5s just didnt work :/ then again they also
    told me not to use turpentine to clean the chain/deraillers , and wanted to sell me an aerosol of 20
    dollar citrus grease, so i don't know where their priorities lie.... they said to get a rockshox- a
    judy for about 200 dollars new. what do you think of that?


    The shop obviously wants to sell you what they stock, nothing wrong with that, IF it's what you need/want. For that price (~$200) it sounds like a Judy TT. I wouldn't recomend anything lower than a Judy XC, it has dampning control & costs about $500+ new. Unfortunately most "real" suspension forks start at this price. You want to spend you money on the best upgrade that will last for your next few years of riding. Better to get a good condition, higher-end, secondhand fork, than something cheaper that isn't much of a step up. Do some reading on the different brands & list each option from the well known manufacturers. Then you will know what to look for secondhand.

    Also citrus solvent (Citro Clean) can be found at the supermarket for $7 ~ $8 & works really well as a drivetrain cleaner.

  6. "Bikesoiler" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    I wouldn't recomend anything lower than a Judy XC, it has dampning control & costs about $500+
    new. Unfortunately most "real" suspension forks start at this price.

    I bought an OEM Marzocchi MX Comp air fork from www.phantomcycles.com.au for $400 a while back.
    MASSIVE improvement over the RST 381's the bike came with.

    Some people swear by RockShox (usually the higher end XC ones) whereas others swear at them. All
    manufacturers have bad runs but when I bought mine, Marzocchi seemed to be getting a good rap, along
    with Fox and to a lesser extent Manitou.

    You have to weigh up the cost of your bike versus the cost of a new fork versus the cost of a new
    bike with a nicer fork :-)

    hippy

  7. hippy said:

    "Bikesoiler" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I wouldn't recomend anything lower than a Judy XC, it has dampning control & costs about $500+
    new. Unfortunately most "real" suspension forks start at this price.

    I bought an OEM Marzocchi MX Comp air fork from www.phantomcycles.com.au for $400 a while back.
    MASSIVE improvement over the RST 381's the bike came with.

    cool, improvement in what way?

    Quoted message said:


    Some people swear by RockShox (usually the higher end XC ones) whereas others swear at them. All
    manufacturers have bad runs but when I bought mine, Marzocchi seemed to be getting a good rap,
    along with Fox and to a lesser extent Manitou.

    You have to weigh up the cost of your bike versus the cost of a new fork versus the cost of a new
    bike with a nicer fork :-)

    Yeah, I paid 425 dollars for my bike,

    Quoted message said:

    hippy

  8. "Arpit" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I bought an OEM Marzocchi MX Comp air fork from www.phantomcycles.com.au for $400 a while back.
    MASSIVE improvement over the RST 381's the bike came with.

    cool, improvement in what way?

    It's hard to explain, but basically, throwing the bike off everyday stuff it is SOOO much smoother
    than the RST's. Instead of thump crash thud, it's just zoop and continue. The RSTs also had a horrid
    topout knock, ie. when yanking back on the bars the front wheel moves down away from the bars and
    hits the limit of extension and makes a yukky thud noise. They don't seem to just bounce up and down
    when riding. They move but there is more restriction in when pedalling normally compared to the
    RSTs. They feel more solid compared to the obvious flex found in the RSTs. They look better too 😉

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    You have to weigh up the cost of your bike versus the cost of a new fork versus the cost of a new
    bike with a nicer fork :-)

    Yeah, I paid 425 dollars for my bike,

    So $400 for forks might not be such a wise investment! :-)

    Remember though, if you put expensive forks on your current bike, you can always take them off again
    and put them on your next bike.

    hippy

  9. 'then again they also
    told me not to use turpentine to clean the chain/deraillers'

    I though Kerosine was the one to use. Is Turps OK?

  10. its_stuart said:


    'then again they also told me not to use turpentine to clean the chain/deraillers'

    I though Kerosine was the one to use. Is Turps OK?

    --


    I used to use petrol, then I switched to kerosene because I was told petol stripped all the oils
    away whereas kero left some sort of protective hair-conditioner type thing. Then I switched to a LBS
    $ 20 for a wee spray-can citrus oil thing because it smelled nice and said it was Good For The
    Environment (which of course compared to petrol or kerosine is damn right) and one's share-house
    folks didn't complain about the smell... (which raises the OTB question of fire-stick feckin'
    wanke... ahem, fire-stick artists, and their kero smells...) Then to big $ 5
    citrus-all-purpose-cleaner from the supermarket, which does the same thing.

    Turpentine? Seriously? Fine for oil paints, but I can't see it being useful for
    drive-train cleaning.

    p

  11. Fred Nieman said:

    Turpentine? Seriously? Fine for oil paints, but I can't see it being useful for drive-train
    cleaning.


    Works SUPER well

    Quoted message said:


    p

  12. Arpit said:


    Fred Nieman said:

    Turpentine? Seriously? Fine for oil paints, but I can't see it being useful for drive-train
    cleaning.


    Works SUPER well

    Ah, I guess I'm wrong, then. Citrus oil stuff is a bit annoyingly only so-so. But if I drank it, I
    probably wouldn't slice my <insert Van Gogh and oil paints joke here> ear off. p

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