Good bad weather gear cables (UK)?

"Shaun Rimmer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Howdo you 'orrible lot,

I am in need of some gear cables (inners and outers), and I'm sick of what I've come across so
far. The last ones I'd bought (Clarks Clim-8) were supposedly good, sealed, self lubing 'extreme
weather' things, made in England (so they knew what weather they were up against), and they were
[censored]. Utter [censored] - even the cheapest Shimano ones gave me less trouble, while they lasted.

What I need, are a set that won't let in crappy mud and water all the time (most rides here are at
least wet), and that won't need constant maintenance. I'd also like to not spend silly money on
something 'shiny', 'HI-TECH', or any other hype - just want some good, honest, decent cables.

Any of you folks who ride in the same general conditions I do, use(d) anything that even nearly
fits the description?

TIA for you kind and sagely knowledge, errmm, good people!

Shaun aRe

Don't waste money on the Avid cables and housing. I was not happy with them in dry Colorado and just
went back to the cheap Shimano. I hear the Gore system is nice, but for my money, I'll just replace
everything once or twice a year with the cheaper Shimano stuff.

--
Craig Brossman, Durango Colorado (remove .nospam. if replying)

"Shaun Rimmer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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|
| Howdo you 'orrible lot,
|
| I am in need of some gear cables (inners and outers), and I'm sick of what I've come across so
| far. The last ones I'd bought (Clarks Clim-8) were supposedly good, sealed, self lubing 'extreme
| weather' things, made in England (so they knew what weather they were up against), and they were
| [censored]. Utter [censored] - even the cheapest Shimano ones gave me less trouble, while they lasted.
|
| What I need, are a set that won't let in crappy mud and water all the time (most rides here are at
| least wet), and that won't need constant maintenance. I'd also like to not spend silly money on
| something 'shiny', 'HI-TECH', or any other hype - just want some good, honest, decent cables.
|
| Any of you folks who ride in the same general conditions I do, use(d) anything that even nearly
| fits the description?
|
| TIA for you kind and sagely knowledge, errmm, good people!
|

Gore Ride-on cables. Period. Install them by the book and no worries. The cable itself is truly
sealed from shifter to derailleur, no overlapping sleeves or [censored] like that. My Big Sur has a 6 y/o
set on it (that I installed for the original owner, a noted bike abuser.) The only reason I had to
replace the brake cable set was due to switching to V brakes from cantis.

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On Wed, 7 May 2003 12:09:33 -0400, "Nelson Binch" <[email hidden]> blathered:

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| I am in need of some gear cables (inners and outers), and I'm sick of what I've come across so
| far. Any of you folks who ride in the same general conditions I do, use(d) anything that even
| nearly fits the description?

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Gore Ride-on cables.

Used to swear by these, but I mainly swore at the last three sets, which all got thrown away
prematurely. Problem was the sheath kept getting pulled into the shifter mechanism and mangled
- to the extent I would've lost my shifting if I hadn't had the friction shift option you get
with thumbies.

Not impressed with the Nokon cables; lots of 'cable stretch' due to the metal beads bedding in
together - and I mean LOTS...like, make-sure-you-carry-a-pair-of-pliers lots.

XTR is the way to go, run from the shifter to the mech so the only way [censored] can get in is at each
end. I've had no problems since I started doing this in January, although admittedly it's been a dry
3-4 months.

Pete
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"Pete Jones" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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| On Wed, 7 May 2003 12:09:33 -0400, "Nelson Binch" <[email hidden]> blathered:
|
| >| I am in need of some gear cables (inners and outers), and I'm sick of
what
| >| I've come across so far. Any of you folks who ride in the same general conditions I do, use(d)
| >| anything that even nearly fits the description?
|
| >Gore Ride-on cables.
|
| Used to swear by these, but I mainly swore at the last three sets, which all got thrown away
| prematurely. Problem was the sheath kept getting pulled into the shifter mechanism and mangled -
| to the extent I would've lost my shifting if I hadn't had the friction shift option you get with
| thumbies.

Some later batches lost the flare at the end of the plastic tubing that prevented this. I have no
idea why. The cure is to heat the point of an ordinary nail with a lighter, then touch the tubing to
it, creating the flair.

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On Wed, 7 May 2003 13:11:04 -0400, "Nelson Binch" <[email hidden]> blathered:

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| >| I am in need of some gear cables (inners and outers), and I'm sick of
what
| >| I've come across so far. Any of you folks who ride in the same general conditions I do, use(d)
| >| anything that even nearly fits the description?
|
| >Gore Ride-on cables.
|
| Used to swear by these, but I mainly swore at the last three sets

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Some later batches lost the flare at the end of the plastic tubing that prevented this. I have no
idea why. The cure is to heat the point of an ordinary nail with a lighter, then touch the tubing
to it, creating the flair.

Good tip; if that works I'd go for the G-tex. I had one set that outlasted three rear mechs.

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Quoted message said:

Howdo you 'orrible lot,

I am in need of some gear cables (inners and outers), and I'm sick of what I've come across so
far. The last ones I'd bought (Clarks Clim-8) were supposedly good, sealed, self lubing 'extreme
weather' things, made in England (so they knew what weather they were up against), and they were
[censored]. Utter [censored] - even the cheapest Shimano ones gave me less trouble, while they lasted.

What I need, are a set that won't let in crappy mud and water all the time (most rides here are at
least wet), and that won't need constant maintenance. I'd also like to not spend silly money on
something 'shiny', 'HI-TECH', or any other hype - just want some good, honest, decent cables.

Any of you folks who ride in the same general conditions I do, use(d) anything that even nearly
fits the description?

TIA for you kind and sagely knowledge, errmm, good people!

Shaun aRe

the gear pod to the mech. No bare cable means no [censored] getting in. Apply zip ties liberally and be
happy. Sorted.

Small Black Dog

Shaun Rimmer said:

Howdo you 'orrible lot,

I am in need of some gear cables (inners and outers), and I'm sick of what I've come across so far.

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What I need, are a set that won't let in crappy mud and water all the time (most rides here are at
least wet), and that won't need constant maintenance. I'd also like to not spend silly money on
something 'shiny', 'HI-TECH', or any other hype - just want some good, honest, decent cables.

Any of you folks who ride in the same general conditions I do, use(d) anything that even nearly
fits the description?

TIA for you kind and sagely knowledge, errmm, good people!

Shaun aRe

I've been using and impressed by Transfil Flying Snake cables, same principles as Avid Flak Jackets,
but work better, may not fit with criteria of "silly money" (22 notes a set) but have resisted
downland chalk slurry, hard welded sheep [censored] and clay with no ill effects cheers Martin

Craig Brossman <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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"Shaun Rimmer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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What I need, are a set that won't let in crappy mud and water all the

time

Quoted message said:

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(most rides here are at least wet), and that won't need constant maintenance. I'd also like to
not spend silly money on something

'shiny',

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Quoted message said:

'HI-TECH', or any other hype - just want some good, honest, decent

cables.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Any of you folks who ride in the same general conditions I do, use(d) anything that even nearly
fits the description?

TIA for you kind and sagely knowledge, errmm, good people!

Shaun aRe

Don't waste money on the Avid cables and housing. I was not happy with

them

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in dry Colorado and just went back to the cheap Shimano.

Yup - aware of the probs associated with the Avids. Cheers.

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I hear the Gore system is nice,

OK - I'll look at prices for those.

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but for my money, I'll just replace everything once or twice a year with the cheaper
Shimano stuff.

Doesn't work that way for me I'm afraid - they just don't last that long, and performance suffers
quite a bit after just a month or two in these conditions.

Cheers!

Shaun aRe

Nelson Binch <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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"Shaun Rimmer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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|
| Howdo you 'orrible lot,
|
| I am in need of some gear cables (inners and outers), and I'm sick of

what

Quoted message said:

| I've come across so far. The last ones I'd bought (Clarks Clim-8) were supposedly good, sealed,
| self lubing 'extreme weather' things, made in England (so they knew what weather they were up
| against), and they were [censored]. Utter [censored] - even the cheapest Shimano ones gave me less trouble,
| while they lasted.
|
| What I need, are a set that won't let in crappy mud and water all the

time

Quoted message said:

| (most rides here are at least wet), and that won't need constant maintenance. I'd also like to
| not spend silly money on something

'shiny',

Quoted message said:

| 'HI-TECH', or any other hype - just want some good, honest, decent

cables.

Quoted message said:

|
| Any of you folks who ride in the same general conditions I do, use(d) anything that even nearly
| fits the description?
|
| TIA for you kind and sagely knowledge, errmm, good people!
|

Gore Ride-on cables. Period. Install them by the book and no worries.

The

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cable itself is truly sealed from shifter to derailleur, no overlapping sleeves or [censored] like that.
My Big Sur has a 6 y/o set on it (that I installed for the original owner, a noted bike abuser.)
The only reason I had to replace the brake cable set was due to switching to V brakes from cantis.

OK - another vote for the Gores.

Cheers!

Shaun aRe

Small Black Dog <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Howdo you 'orrible lot,

I am in need of some gear cables (inners and outers), and I'm sick of

what

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I've come across so far. The last ones I'd bought (Clarks Clim-8) were supposedly good, sealed,
self lubing 'extreme weather' things, made in England (so they knew what weather they were up
against), and they were [censored]. Utter [censored] - even the cheapest Shimano ones gave me less trouble,
while they lasted.

What I need, are a set that won't let in crappy mud and water all the

time

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

(most rides here are at least wet), and that won't need constant maintenance. I'd also like to
not spend silly money on something

'shiny',

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

'HI-TECH', or any other hype - just want some good, honest, decent

cables.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Any of you folks who ride in the same general conditions I do, use(d) anything that even nearly
fits the description?

TIA for you kind and sagely knowledge, errmm, good people!

Shaun aRe

from

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the gear pod to the mech. No bare cable means no [censored] getting in. Apply

zip

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ties liberally and be happy. Sorted.

I already have my rear mech (the problem one) cable in 2 sections only - zip tied right past the
last guide. Nothing gets in along the top tube end that has caused me probs, only down at the rear
mech itself, and yes, the mech is a rubber booted one.

Cheers!

Shaun aRe

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On Wed, 7 May 2003 16:33:22 +0100, "Shaun Rimmer" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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What I need, are a set that won't let in crappy mud and water all the

time

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

(most rides here are at least wet), and that won't need constant maintenance. I'd also like to
not spend silly money on something

'shiny',

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

'HI-TECH', or any other hype - just want some good, honest, decent

cables.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Any of you folks who ride in the same general conditions I do, use(d) anything that even nearly
fits the description?

TIA for you kind and sagely knowledge, errmm, good people!

Shaun aRe

I've been using and impressed by Transfil Flying Snake cables, same principles as Avid Flak
Jackets, but work better, may not fit with criteria of "silly money" (22 notes a set) but have
resisted downland chalk slurry, hard welded sheep [censored] and clay with no ill effects cheers Martin

Never heard of these - I'll look 'em up. How long have you been running this set?

Cheers!

Shaun aRe

Pete Jones <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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On Wed, 7 May 2003 12:09:33 -0400, "Nelson Binch" <[email hidden]> blathered:

Quoted message said:

| I am in need of some gear cables (inners and outers), and I'm sick of

what

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

| I've come across so far. Any of you folks who ride in the same general conditions I do, use(d)
| anything that even nearly fits the description?

Quoted message said:

Gore Ride-on cables.

Used to swear by these, but I mainly swore at the last three sets, which all got thrown away
prematurely. Problem was the sheath kept getting pulled into the shifter mechanism and mangled -
to the extent I would've lost my shifting if I hadn't had the friction shift option you get with
thumbies.

Hmmmm........

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Not impressed with the Nokon cables; lots of 'cable stretch' due to the metal beads bedding in
together - and I mean LOTS...like, make-sure-you-carry-a-pair-of-pliers lots.

XTR is the way to go, run from the shifter to the mech so the only way [censored] can get in is at each
end. I've had no problems since I started doing this in January, although admittedly it's been a
dry 3-4 months.

I take it the XTR's are pricey? I'll try and find time to Google 'em.

Cheers!

Shaun aRe

Shaun Rimmer said:

Craig Brossman <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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"Shaun Rimmer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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What I need, are a set that won't let in crappy mud and water all the

time

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

(most rides here are at least wet), and that won't need constant maintenance. I'd also like to
not spend silly money on something

'shiny',

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

'HI-TECH', or any other hype - just want some good, honest, decent

cables.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Any of you folks who ride in the same general conditions I do, use(d) anything that even nearly
fits the description?

TIA for you kind and sagely knowledge, errmm, good people!

Shaun aRe

Don't waste money on the Avid cables and housing. I was not happy with

them

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in dry Colorado and just went back to the cheap Shimano.

Yup - aware of the probs associated with the Avids. Cheers.

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I hear the Gore system is nice,

OK - I'll look at prices for those.

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but for my money, I'll just replace everything once or twice a year with the cheaper
Shimano stuff.

Doesn't work that way for me I'm afraid - they just don't last that long, and performance suffers
quite a bit after just a month or two in these conditions.

Have you tried Shimano's (XTR?) cable seals? They're only $6 here in the states and they work ok for
me -- probably not as much rain as you
🙂. Just don't make the mistake that I did and assume that they last
forever. You need to check the rubber tips for wear when you replace a cable.

David

Shaun Rimmer said:

Small Black Dog <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Howdo you 'orrible lot,

I am in need of some gear cables (inners and outers), and I'm sick of

what

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I've come across so far. The last ones I'd bought (Clarks Clim-8) were supposedly good, sealed,
self lubing 'extreme weather' things, made in England (so they knew what weather they were up
against), and they were [censored]. Utter [censored] - even the cheapest Shimano ones gave me less trouble,
while they lasted.

What I need, are a set that won't let in crappy mud and water all the

time

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

(most rides here are at least wet), and that won't need constant maintenance. I'd also like to
not spend silly money on something

'shiny',

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

'HI-TECH', or any other hype - just want some good, honest, decent

cables.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Any of you folks who ride in the same general conditions I do, use(d) anything that even nearly
fits the description?

TIA for you kind and sagely knowledge, errmm, good people!

Shaun aRe

Quoted message said:

from

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the gear pod to the mech. No bare cable means no [censored] getting in. Apply

zip

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ties liberally and be happy. Sorted.

I already have my rear mech (the problem one) cable in 2 sections only - zip tied right past the
last guide. Nothing gets in along the top tube end that has caused me probs, only down at the rear
mech itself, and yes, the mech is a rubber booted one.

Cheers!

Shaun aRe

If it's getting in at the mech, I'd vote for GoreTex RideOn. I went to them for my rear disc
(mechanicals) and so far it's working great -- and we've had LOTS of rain this spring 🙂.

David

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Have you tried Shimano's (XTR?) cable seals? They're only $6 here in the states and they work ok
for me -- probably not as much rain as you
🙂. Just don't make the mistake that I did and assume that they last
forever. You need to check the rubber tips for wear when you replace a cable.

David

Cheers - I'll goggle for 'em.

Shaun aRe currently working on an idea that might make cheaper cables easier to clean out
and free up.

David Kunz <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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I already have my rear mech (the problem one) cable in 2 sections only -

zip

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tied right past the last guide. Nothing gets in along the top tube end

that

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has caused me probs, only down at the rear mech itself, and yes, the

mech is

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a rubber booted one.

Cheers!

Shaun aRe

If it's getting in at the mech, I'd vote for GoreTex RideOn. I went to them for my rear disc
(mechanicals) and so far it's working great -- and we've had LOTS of rain this spring 🙂.

David

Cheers - yet another shout for the Gores.

Shaun aRe

Shaun Rimmer said:

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On Wed, 7 May 2003 16:33:22 +0100, "Shaun Rimmer" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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Any of you folks who ride in the same general conditions I do, use(d) anything that even nearly
fits the description?

TIA for you kind and sagely knowledge, errmm, good people!

Shaun aRe

I've been using and impressed by Transfil Flying Snake cables, same principles as Avid Flak
Jackets, but work better, may not fit with criteria of "silly money" (22 notes a set) but
have resisted downland chalk slurry, hard welded sheep [censored] and clay with no ill effects
cheers Martin

Never heard of these - I'll look 'em up. How long have you been running this set?

Cheers!

Shaun aRe

About six months ie through the winter here. as stated above they have resisted wet downland riding,
which consists of chalky slurry mixed with sandy mud, sheep [censored] and occassional forays onto salted
roads (while no one is looking of course!). Previously used XTR cables but found them no better than
the Clarks [censored]

chers Martin

(Cut and paste from google job - computer [censored] itself again so nothing but today's messages
viewable......).

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On Wed, 7 May 2003 16:33:22 +0100, "Shaun Rimmer"

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Never heard of these - I'll look 'em up. How long have you been running

this

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set?

Cheers!

Shaun aRe

"About six months ie through the winter here. as stated above they have resisted wet downland
riding, which consists of chalky slurry mixed with sandy mud, sheep [censored] and occassional forays
onto salted roads (while no one is looking of course!)."

I looked them up - found them at wiggle for 25 quid - bit steep I thought, but might still be
tempted..... They had another by the same folks, the Mud Lovers for about 15 quid - know anyone
who's used those?

" Previously used XTR cables but found them no better than the Clarks [censored]"

So, you tried the Clarks Clim8 then? How long did it take you to go from 'Mightily impressed with
the speed and smoothness of shifting' to 'Arrrrrgghhhhh!!!!!!!!!!' ? Heheheheh.........

"chers Martin"

Thanks Martin,

Shaun aRe

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David Kunz <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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I already have my rear mech (the problem one) cable in 2 sections

only -

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zip

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tied right past the last guide. Nothing gets in along the top tube end

that

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has caused me probs, only down at the rear mech itself, and yes, the

mech is

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a rubber booted one.

Cheers!

Shaun aRe

If it's getting in at the mech, I'd vote for GoreTex RideOn. I went to them for my rear disc
(mechanicals) and so far it's working great -- and we've had LOTS of rain this spring 🙂.

David

Cheers - yet another shout for the Gores.

Shaun aRe

Shaun I shout for the Gores too - especially with gripshift where a bit of extra friction makes a
lot of difference. The brake cables are great too, makes cable brakes feel almost like hydraulic.

Steve E.