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  1. Here's a tale to brighten up your day.... Nearly 2 years ago
    my son was mugged and had his dream bike stolen...It was a
    MTB that he'd saved, scrimped, sweated blood 'n' tears and
    done deals to build. Based on a very distinctive Planet X
    Jack Flash metallic red and gold frame, he knew every
    component intimately and had only completed it about a month
    before it was stolen. It was his pride and joy and he hadn't
    yet used it in anger, i.e. off-road. It was duly reported to
    the police and an insurance claim was made. £500 was
    forthcoming to cover what was, in effect, a £1200 bike. I
    did the parental thing of cruising the local area where it
    was stolen, looking for the scumbags and ready to become
    'The Law' in an instance if I came across it, all to no
    avail. My sons view was that it was such a distinctive bike,
    that it would've been shipped out of the area that day and
    he'd never see it again. He was heartbroken!! Fast forward
    to last week. We were returning from my fathers funeral to
    the wake at our house. My son suddenly pointed out that we'd
    just passed a lad riding his bike. I know my son knew this
    bike intimately and aside from the frame, it was made from a
    very readily identifiable components. I believed him but we
    were on the way to my fathers wake and I had to get there
    first to let everyone in and supply food and drink, so there
    was no way I could stop. - Ah well, he'd had the insurance
    and a couple of years out of a replacement Trek. Fast
    forward to Tuesday night. He had been out on a bit of an
    epic BMX'ing day with friends. Whilst riding back to one of
    their houses he saw the bike again, resting against the
    front of a house. He called me for assistance. I was about
    to go charging in "a la cavalry", when I thought it might be
    a good idea to pop into the local constabulary on the way
    over. They advised that I went and waited with my son, made
    no move on it and they would get someone over asap. I stated
    that it was a couple of years ago and an insurance claim had
    been settled. They said that this made no difference and we
    should progress with recovering the bike!! Upon arrival, my
    son and his friends were getting very excited, working
    themselves up in to a right old lather about raiding the
    house and recovering the bike. I said that the police were
    on the way and we should just hold back and wait. I
    eventually managed to convince them to go as it was getting
    a bit embarrassing, and just leave my son and I to wait for
    the police. The police arrived after an hour and a half,
    took a detailed description and crime report number that
    they'd issued us with. They sent us on our way and
    approached the property.

    They have since called and asked us to go and identify the
    bike at the local police station on Monday - HURRAH!!! My
    son is very philosophical about it and realises that he may
    not get the bike back as strictly speaking it now belongs to
    the insurance company. He reckons it was worth it just to
    ensure the scutters that had it no longer have it. I hope
    the insurance company will be impressed by his belligerence
    and allow him to buy it back for a couple of hundred quid,
    if that. After all, if it wasn't for him, it'd still be AWOL
    and they wouldn't be any better off.

    The cop who came to rescue it said he'd never heard anything
    like it, a pushbike after 2 years!!

    Personally I am absolutely gobsmacked. Don't see hide nor
    hair of it for 2 years then twice within a week, on opposite
    sides of town....c'mon, really, what are the chances of
    that?? I don't believe in all dat dere afterlife stuff, but
    I can't help feeling Grandad was involved in it somewhere
    along the line ;-)...RIP Dad...and thanks.

    Dave.

  2. \(t'other\) Dave said:

    Here's a tale to brighten up your day....

    That's really good news, fingers crossed it goes well with
    the bike ID and the insurance company. It surely wont be as
    shiny as when he lost it, but it will be great for your son
    to have his bike back.

    I'm not sure I'd have been as generous to Old Bill in my
    choice of post subject though. Good old plod? They didn't
    recover your lads bike, he did that himself. The extent of
    their efforts was probably filing the report sheet in some
    dusty box or hard drive somewhere. There are certain
    justifications for this I'm sure, but all the police
    effectively did was send a bloke around to collect it once
    you'd done the important bit yourselves. They even made you
    wait an hour and a half standing guard over your own stolen
    property. Hardly worthy of praise in my book.

    Anyway, ignore my moaning, the important bit will be the big
    grin on your lads face if all goes as it should on monday.
    --

    "Bob"

    'The people have spoken, the [censored]'

    Email address is spam trapped.
    To reply directly remove the beverage.

  3. (t'other) Dave posted ...

    Quoted message said:

    Here's a tale to brighten up your day....

    Nice one .. and well done. 😉

    Quoted message said:

    I hope the insurance company will be impressed by his
    belligerence and allow him to buy it back for a couple of
    hundred quid, if that.

    I hope so too. Nothing worse than losing something you love,
    and that you've put blood, sweat and tears [1] into, no
    matter how much or little it cost.

    [1] I've also built a bike up with exactly what I wanted on
    it, it ain't always an easy task .. 😉

    --
    Paul

    (8(|) Homer rocks .. 😉

  4. So where is the bike now ? Have you got it ? Do your
    insurers know it has been recovered ? Are they still your
    insurers ? Make them an offer - £100.

  5. "MSeries" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    So where is the bike now ?


    At the local copshop - waiting for the right person to be on
    days next Monday...

    Have you got it ? Not yet..

    Do your insurers know it has

    Quoted message said:

    been recovered ?


    Don't think so

    Are they still your insurers ?

    Not sure, through my ex-wife, I'll ask

    Make them an offer - £100.

    Will do. Think they'll accept £50? ;-)

  6. "Call me Bob" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    \(t'other\) Dave' no- said:

    Here's a tale to brighten up your day....

    That's really good news, fingers crossed it goes well with
    the bike ID and the insurance company. It surely wont be
    as shiny as when he lost it, but it will be great for your
    son to have his bike back.

    Thanks, absolutely.

    Quoted message said:


    I'm not sure I'd have been as generous to Old Bill in my
    choice of post subject though. Good old plod? They didn't
    recover your lads bike, he did that himself. The extent of
    their efforts was probably filing the report sheet in some
    dusty box or hard drive somewhere. There are certain
    justifications for this I'm sure, but all the police
    effectively did was send a bloke around to collect it once
    you'd done the important bit yourselves. They even made
    you wait an hour and a half standing guard over your own
    stolen property. Hardly worthy of praise in my book.


    My son expected it to be 3 weeks before they turned up and I
    did wonder if we'd still be there at midnight with me
    reassuring my son, "they'll be here in a minute mate, I'm
    sure of it..."...coulda been much worse. It was during rush
    hour and there's all those manic cagers to police ;-) ..and
    I know they were only doing their job, but at least they did
    it, knife vests and all. It was a well dodgy address and
    personally I wouldn't have liked to knock on the door and
    accuse 'em of nicking my sons bike, or being in posssession
    of stolen goods etc., without at least ma baseball bat ;-)
    The bike will be returned (I hope) and we will still have
    the moral high ground of being on the right side of the law.

    Quoted message said:

    Anyway, ignore my moaning, the important bit will be
    the big grin on your lads face if all goes as it should
    on monday.

    Priceless (hopefully - and without a Mastercard in sight ;-)

    Quoted message said:

    --

    "Bob"

    'The people have spoken, the [censored]'

    Email address is spam trapped. To reply directly remove
    the beverage.

  7. "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    (t'other) Dave posted ...

    Quoted message said:

    Here's a tale to brighten up your day....

    Nice one .. and well done. 😉

    Quoted message said:

    I hope the insurance company will be impressed by his
    belligerence and allow him to buy it back for a couple
    of hundred quid, if that.

    I hope so too. Nothing worse than losing something you
    love, and that you've put blood, sweat and tears [1] into,
    no matter how much or little


    it

    Quoted message said:

    cost.


    You can say that again. One of the down sides of being a
    parent. The suffering of your offspring that you feel
    powerless to do anything about. A hug always seems to help
    though (that's the upside ;-)

    Quoted message said:

    [1] I've also built a bike up with exactly what I wanted
    on it, it ain't always an easy task .. 😉


    He was 16 at the time and did it totally independantly of
    anyone else. I was most impressed to say the least (and a
    little proud!)

    Quoted message said:

    --
    Paul

    (8(|) Homer rocks .. 😉

  8. (t'other) Dave said:

    "MSeries" <[email hidden]> wrote in message -"]news:[email hidden]-
    berlin.de...

    Quoted message said:


    So where is the bike now ?


    At the local copshop - waiting for the right person to be
    on days next Monday...

    Have you got it ? Not yet..

    Do your insurers know it has

    Quoted message said:

    been recovered ?


    Don't think so

    Are they still your insurers ?

    Not sure, through my ex-wife, I'll ask

    Make them an offer - £100.

    Will do. Think they'll accept £50? ;-)

    I have no idea of the Polices procedure, I assume they are
    satisfied you are the rightful owner, will they simply hand
    it over to you once the paperwork is done ?

    Do the insurance company need to know ?

  9. Good news to here plod has been supportive.

    Sorry to hear about your Dad - sincere condolences.

    helen s

    --This is an invalid email address to avoid spam-- to get
    correct one remove fame & fortune
    h*$el*$$e*nd**$o$ts**i*$*$m*m$o*n*s@$*a$o*l.c**$om$

    --Due to financial crisis the light at the end of the tunnel
    is switched off--

  10. "MSeries" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    (t'other) Dave said:

    "MSeries" <[email hidden]> wrote in message -"]news:[email hidden]-
    berlin.de...

    Quoted message said:


    So where is the bike now ?


    At the local copshop - waiting for the right person to
    be on days next Monday...

    Have you got it ? Not yet..

    Do your insurers know it has

    Quoted message said:

    been recovered ?


    Don't think so

    Are they still your insurers ?

    Not sure, through my ex-wife, I'll ask

    Make them an offer - £100.

    Will do. Think they'll accept £50? ;-)

    I have no idea of the Polices procedure, I assume they are
    satisfied you


    are

    Quoted message said:

    the rightful owner, will they simply hand it over to you
    once the


    paperwork

    Quoted message said:

    is done ?

    Do the insurance company need to know ?


    Been wondering about this one..... Presumably they've
    effectively bought it by paying out on it, albeit at a
    greatly reduced rate (b'stards!!), so if we don't hand it
    to them then we're 'handling stolen goods'.... In order to
    keep it all above board I'll check with them and see what
    they want to do. Any advice from anyone in the insurance
    biz.?? Dave.

  11. "dirtylitterboxofferingstospammers" <[email hidden]> wrote in
    message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Good news to here plod has been supportive.

    Sorry to hear about your Dad - sincere condolences.

    helen s


    Thanks Helen, appreciated...didn't post it for that though,
    just thought it was a hell of an interesting coincidence
    that made me smile a lot ;-). Dave.

  12. In article <[email hidden]>,

    \(t'other\) Dave said:

    Here's a tale to brighten up your day....

    Or night:-)

    Sounds like a lucky coincidence. It was originally shipped
    out of your area and sold secondhand. Then it was sold back
    into your area, or the keepers moved house, or something.

    --
    Nick Kew

    Nick's manifesto: htmlhelp.com~nick

  13. "(t'other) Dave" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "MSeries" <[email hidden]> wrote in message -"]news:[email hidden]-
    berlin.de...

    Quoted message said:
    (t'other) Dave said:

    "MSeries" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...
    >
    > So where is the bike now ?
    At the local copshop - waiting for the right person to
    be on days next Monday...

    Have you got it ? Not yet..

    Do your insurers know it has
    > been recovered ?
    Don't think so

    Are they still your insurers ?

    Not sure, through my ex-wife, I'll ask

    Make them an offer - £100.

    Will do. Think they'll accept £50? ;-)

    I have no idea of the Polices procedure, I assume they
    are satisfied you


    are

    Quoted message said:

    the rightful owner, will they simply hand it over to you
    once the


    paperwork

    Quoted message said:

    is done ?

    Do the insurance company need to know ?


    Been wondering about this one..... Presumably they've
    effectively bought it by paying out on it, albeit at a
    greatly reduced rate (b'stards!!), so if we don't hand it
    to them then


    we're

    Quoted message said:

    'handling stolen goods'.... In order to keep it all above
    board I'll check with them and see what they want to do.
    Any advice from anyone in the insurance biz.?? Dave.

    Dave, my input as a Scottish "Plod".

    The bike, at this moment in time does not belong to your
    son, you have been paid out by the insurance company. It is
    very similar to stolen cars, televisions, video recorders
    etc. being recovered after a pay out. What I will say, is
    that insurance companies usually want rid of the property
    asap and will accept reasonable offers well under its value.

    Rory

  14. "\(t'other\) Dave" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Been wondering about this one.....


    snipped

    Quoted message said:

    Presumably they've effectively bought it by paying out on
    it, albeit at a greatly reduced rate (b'stards!!), so if
    we don't hand it to them then we're 'handling stolen
    goods'.... In order to keep it all above board I'll check
    with them and see what they want to do. Any advice from
    anyone in the insurance biz.?? Dave.

    Not in the insurance biz but the bike now belongs to them.
    So I would second the suggestion of informing the insurance
    company and making them an offer. They would no doubt not
    want the hassle of taking possession of the bike then
    having to sell it. Why be a criminal for the sake of £50 or
    £100. Iain C

  15. "Rodders" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "(t'other) Dave" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "MSeries" <[email hidden]> wrote in message -"]news:[email hidden]-
    berlin.de...

    Quoted message said:

    (t'other) Dave wrote:
    > "MSeries" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    > "]news:[email hidden]...
    >>
    >> So where is the bike now ?
    > At the local copshop - waiting for the right person
    > to be on days


    next

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > Monday...
    >
    > Have you got it ? Not yet..
    >
    > Do your insurers know it has
    >> been recovered ?
    > Don't think so
    >
    >
    > Are they still your insurers ?
    >
    > Not sure, through my ex-wife, I'll ask
    >
    > Make them an offer - £100.
    >
    > Will do. Think they'll accept £50? ;-)

    I have no idea of the Polices procedure, I assume they
    are satisfied


    you

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    are

    Quoted message said:

    the rightful owner, will they simply hand it over to
    you once the


    paperwork

    Quoted message said:

    is done ?

    Do the insurance company need to know ?


    Been wondering about this one..... Presumably they've
    effectively bought it by paying out on it, albeit at


    a

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    greatly reduced rate (b'stards!!), so if we don't hand
    it to them then


    we're

    Quoted message said:

    'handling stolen goods'.... In order to keep it all
    above board I'll check with them and see what


    they

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    want to do. Any advice from anyone in the insurance
    biz.?? Dave.

    Dave, my input as a Scottish "Plod".


    An affectionate term ;-)

    Quoted message said:

    The bike, at this moment in time does not belong to your
    son, you have


    been

    Quoted message said:

    paid out by the insurance company. It is very similar to
    stolen cars, televisions, video recorders etc. being
    recovered after a pay out. What I will say, is that
    insurance companies usually want rid of the property


    asap

    Quoted message said:

    and will accept reasonable offers well under its value.

    Rory


    Thanks Rory...my thoughts too. Wish that they could track
    back to the gits that nicked it in the first place and get
    them to refund the payout to the insurance company (for
    starters!!!)

    Dave.

  16. "iarocu" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    "\(t'other\) Dave" <[email hidden]> wrote in message


    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Been wondering about this one.....


    snipped

    Quoted message said:

    Presumably they've effectively bought it by paying out
    on it, albeit at


    a

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    greatly reduced rate (b'stards!!), so if we don't hand
    it to them then


    we're

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    'handling stolen goods'.... In order to keep it all
    above board I'll check with them and see what


    they

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    want to do. Any advice from anyone in the insurance
    biz.?? Dave.

    Not in the insurance biz but the bike now belongs to them.
    So I would second the suggestion of informing the
    insurance company and making them an offer. They would no
    doubt not want the hassle of taking possession of the bike
    then having to sell it. Why be a criminal for the sake of
    £50 or £100. Iain C

    Absolutely

  17. So sorry to hear about the loss of your Dad, but this is a
    great story. Congrats on getting your son's bike back. I'm
    sure your Dad is smiling from up there!

    Vivian
    -------
    "We learned more from a three minute record than we ever
    learned in school". No Surrender

    "(t'other) Dave" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Here's a tale to brighten up your day.... Nearly 2 years
    ago my son was mugged and had his dream bike stolen...It


    was

    Quoted message said:

    a MTB that he'd saved, scrimped, sweated blood 'n' tears
    and done deals to build. Based on a very distinctive
    Planet X Jack Flash metallic red and


    gold

    Quoted message said:

    frame, he knew every component intimately and had only
    completed it about


    a

    Quoted message said:

    month before it was stolen. It was his pride and joy and
    he hadn't yet


    used

    Quoted message said:

    it in anger, i.e. off-road. It was duly reported to the
    police and an insurance claim was made. £500


    was

    Quoted message said:

    forthcoming to cover what was, in effect, a £1200 bike. I
    did the parental thing of cruising the local area where
    it was stolen, looking for the scumbags and ready to
    become 'The Law' in an instance if I came across it, all
    to no avail. My sons view was that it was such a
    distinctive bike,


    that

    Quoted message said:

    it would've been shipped out of the area that day and he'd
    never see it again. He was heartbroken!! Fast forward to
    last week. We were returning from my fathers funeral to


    the

    Quoted message said:

    wake at our house. My son suddenly pointed out that we'd
    just passed a lad riding his bike. I know my son knew this
    bike intimately and aside from


    the

    Quoted message said:

    frame, it was made from a very readily identifiable
    components. I believed him but we were on the way to my
    fathers wake and I had to get there first to let everyone
    in and supply food and drink, so there was no way I could
    stop. - Ah well, he'd had the insurance and a couple of
    years out of a replacement Trek. Fast forward to Tuesday
    night. He had been out on a bit of an epic BMX'ing day
    with friends. Whilst riding back to one of their houses
    he saw the


    bike

    Quoted message said:

    again, resting against the front of a house. He called me
    for assistance.


    I

    Quoted message said:

    was about to go charging in "a la cavalry", when I thought
    it might be a good idea to pop into the local constabulary
    on the way over. They advised that I went and waited with
    my son, made no move on it and


    they

    Quoted message said:

    would get someone over asap. I stated that it was a couple
    of years ago


    and

    Quoted message said:

    an insurance claim had been settled. They said that
    this made no


    difference

    Quoted message said:

    and we should progress with recovering the bike!! Upon
    arrival, my son and his friends were getting very excited,
    working themselves up in to a right old lather about
    raiding the house and recovering the bike. I said that the
    police were on the way and we should just hold back and
    wait. I eventually managed to convince them to go as it
    was getting a bit embarrassing, and just leave my son and
    I to wait for


    the

    Quoted message said:

    police. The police arrived after an hour and a half, took
    a detailed description


    and

    Quoted message said:

    crime report number that they'd issued us with. They sent
    us on our way


    and

    Quoted message said:

    approached the property.

    They have since called and asked us to go and identify the
    bike at the


    local

    Quoted message said:

    police station on Monday - HURRAH!!! My son is very
    philosophical about it and realises that he may not get
    the bike back as strictly speaking it now belongs to the
    insurance company. He reckons it was worth it just to
    ensure the scutters that had it no longer have it. I hope
    the insurance company will be impressed by his
    belligerence and


    allow

    Quoted message said:

    him to buy it back for a couple of hundred quid, if that.
    After all, if it wasn't for him, it'd still be AWOL and
    they wouldn't be any better off.

    The cop who came to rescue it said he'd never heard
    anything like it, a pushbike after 2 years!!

    Personally I am absolutely gobsmacked. Don't see hide nor
    hair of it for 2 years then twice within a week, on
    opposite sides of town....c'mon,


    really,

    Quoted message said:

    what are the chances of that?? I don't believe in all dat
    dere afterlife stuff, but I can't help feeling Grandad was
    involved in it somewhere along the line ;-)...RIP
    Dad...and thanks.

    Dave.

  18. iarocu said:


    Not in the insurance biz but the bike now belongs to them.
    So I would second the suggestion of informing the
    insurance company and making them an offer. They would no
    doubt not want the hassle of taking possession of the bike
    then having to sell it. Why be a criminal for the sake of
    £50 or £100.

    I agree. As is often the case, if you take the trouble to
    ask people will usually be helpful - wouldn't be suprised if
    they just told you to keep it - whereas if you don't they
    think you're trying to get away with it and follow the book.

    Tony

  19. "Vivian" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    So sorry to hear about the loss of your Dad, but this is a
    great story. Congrats on getting your son's bike back. I'm
    sure your Dad is smiling


    from

    Quoted message said:

    up there!


    Thanks! Not so much up there as out there ;-) Scattered his
    ashes by the bunker at the 17th yesterday. It was a gorgeous
    day and a 'moment'. Henceforth he shall be known as
    'Grandad, guardian of the bunker on the 17th' .... Dave

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