got my first gore-tex jacket-has a hood--typical ny winter day with t shirt--paper shirt 2 log sleeve turtlenecks and one wool sweater--froze my ass off
what is it with gore-tex?--am i missing something--it was a lands end and had gore-tex lable--maybe it was a counterfit
got my first gore-tex jacket-has a hood--typical ny winter day with t shirt--paper shirt 2 log sleeve turtlenecks and one wool sweater--froze my ass off
what is it with gore-tex?--am i missing something--it was a lands end and had gore-tex lable--maybe it was a counterfit
is gore tex cold?--like lets all body heat out?
any comments please tia peter
GoreTex Blocks wind and rain while letting sweat out. It has NO insulation of its own. Layer it with fleece or polypropylene base layers.
"ilaboo" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:GX_8j.2290$Xh1.1738@trndny03...
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got my first gore-tex jacket-has a hood--typical ny winter day with t shirt--paper shirt 2 log sleeve turtlenecks and one wool sweater--froze my ass off
Am I reading that right? You wore 2 long sleeved turtleneck shirts plus a "t shirt--paper shirt" (whatever that is) AND a wool sweater? Did you buy the jacket in a XXL to get all of that stuff underneath it?
And what is a "typical ny winter day"? I am in North Texas where it was 38 degrees F with with blowing 35-40 mph. Is that like a typical ny winter day? Just wondering. Is it windy where you are?
I wore my Patagonia R4 fleece jacket that I bought 3 years ago over a long-sleeved tee shirt. No problemo!
paper shirt is disposable operating room shirt fleece at least in montana was useless
yes lots of wind in new york, very moist weather --not to fool with
jacket is well make--seems to have some sort of insulation but useless
i suspect thhat gorte-tex in reality is motly open space--question about it to gore is pending
take care peter "Pat" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
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"ilaboo" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:GX_8j.2290$Xh1.1738@trndny03...
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got my first gore-tex jacket-has a hood--typical ny winter day with t shirt--paper shirt 2 log sleeve turtlenecks and one wool sweater--froze my ass off
Am I reading that right? You wore 2 long sleeved turtleneck shirts plus a "t shirt--paper shirt" (whatever that is) AND a wool sweater? Did you buy the jacket in a XXL to get all of that stuff underneath it?
And what is a "typical ny winter day"? I am in North Texas where it was 38 degrees F with with blowing 35-40 mph. Is that like a typical ny winter day? Just wondering. Is it windy where you are?
I wore my Patagonia R4 fleece jacket that I bought 3 years ago over a long-sleeved tee shirt. No problemo!
"Tom Keats" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
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got my first gore-tex jacket-
You rookie.
Enjoy spending yer money.
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What hype?
GoreTex[tm] purports/implies to be waterproof without being all hot & sweaty inside their expensive clothing. Might as well deflate yer wallet at Hellie Hanson.
You don't have to spend top dollar to ride comfortably & dry in the rain.
cheers, Tom
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Man....I have been riding for the better part of 20 years. On a REGULAR basis. Longer than that if you include when I was a 5 year old.
In any case, I have been riding all rhis time and I have NEVER bought any type of Gore-tex to wear. Nor have I bought the "spandex". I just figured it was way to over-priced. I am sure that it does have it's uses. But as for me I'll simply wear shorts and a t-shirt in the summer and layer up in the winter. Much easier in the cold Nebraska winters to do that than to try the "latest" things.
On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 13:15:45 GMT, "ilaboo" <[email hidden]>
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paper shirt is disposable operating room shirt fleece at least in montana was useless
yes lots of wind in new york, very moist weather --not to fool with
jacket is well make--seems to have some sort of insulation but useless
i suspect thhat gorte-tex in reality is motly open space--question about it to gore is pending
take care peter "Pat" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
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"ilaboo" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:GX_8j.2290$Xh1.1738@trndny03...
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got my first gore-tex jacket-has a hood--typical ny winter day with t shirt--paper shirt 2 log sleeve turtlenecks and one wool sweater--froze my ass off
Am I reading that right? You wore 2 long sleeved turtleneck shirts plus a "t shirt--paper shirt" (whatever that is) AND a wool sweater? Did you buy the jacket in a XXL to get all of that stuff underneath it?
And what is a "typical ny winter day"? I am in North Texas where it was 38 degrees F with with blowing 35-40 mph. Is that like a typical ny winter day? Just wondering. Is it windy where you are?
I wore my Patagonia R4 fleece jacket that I bought 3 years ago over a long-sleeved tee shirt. No problemo!
i never did ahve any thing bike to wear just jeans and a jacket and gloves,, havre, Montana
now that i am back to new york city wear it's impossible to describe but tons of bikeres in groups looking like a moving nashbar or performance ad--funny as hell
peter "Harry (Lincoln, Nebraska)" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
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Man....I have been riding for the better part of 20 years. On a REGULAR basis. Longer than that if you include when I was a 5 year old.
In any case, I have been riding all rhis time and I have NEVER bought any type of Gore-tex to wear. Nor have I bought the "spandex". I just figured it was way to over-priced. I am sure that it does have it's uses. But as for me I'll simply wear shorts and a t-shirt in the summer and layer up in the winter. Much easier in the cold Nebraska winters to do that than to try the "latest" things.
On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 13:15:45 GMT, "ilaboo" <[email hidden]>
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paper shirt is disposable operating room shirt fleece at least in montana was useless
yes lots of wind in new york, very moist weather --not to fool with
jacket is well make--seems to have some sort of insulation but useless
i suspect thhat gorte-tex in reality is motly open space--question about it to gore is pending
take care peter "Pat" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
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"ilaboo" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:GX_8j.2290$Xh1.1738@trndny03... > got my first gore-tex jacket-has a hood--typical ny winter day with t > shirt--paper shirt 2 log sleeve turtlenecks and one wool sweater--froze > my ass off
Am I reading that right? You wore 2 long sleeved turtleneck shirts plus a "t shirt--paper shirt" (whatever that is) AND a wool sweater? Did you buy the jacket in a XXL to get all of that stuff underneath it?
And what is a "typical ny winter day"? I am in North Texas where it was 38 degrees F with with blowing 35-40 mph. Is that like a typical ny winter day? Just wondering. Is it windy where you are?
I wore my Patagonia R4 fleece jacket that I bought 3 years ago over a long-sleeved tee shirt. No problemo!
"ilaboo" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:6%C9j.97$8y4.96@trnddc07...
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harry
i never did ahve any thing bike to wear just jeans and a jacket and gloves,, havre, Montana
now that i am back to new york city wear it's impossible to describe but tons of bikeres in groups looking like a moving nashbar or performance ad--funny as hell
peter
One reason people wear flashy clothes is to make themselves more easily visible to inattentive car and truck drivers. Jeans and a dark jackets just don't get the job done.
I wear jeans and usually a light colored coat. I also have TONS of lights and other reflective material along with flags that make me visible. Yes I do understand that the colors are bright and can be seen. But I can get the very same effect by using other items.
I am 50 years old ((young)) and, quite frankly, don't think I would look all that attractive in spandex shorts. I'll stick to what I have been wearing for all these years and I'll pay a little more attention to traffic myself. I feel safer that way.
On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 17:10:21 -0600, "Pat" <[email hidden]>
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"ilaboo" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:6%C9j.97$8y4.96@trnddc07...
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harry
i never did ahve any thing bike to wear just jeans and a jacket and gloves,, havre, Montana
now that i am back to new york city wear it's impossible to describe but tons of bikeres in groups looking like a moving nashbar or performance ad--funny as hell
peter
One reason people wear flashy clothes is to make themselves more easily visible to inattentive car and truck drivers. Jeans and a dark jackets just don't get the job done.
agida is an italian word means stomach acid but ususlly used for aggravation ( very loose translation) used like he gives me agida--or that place gives me agida or she is nothing but agida
hth peter
"Harry (Lincoln, Nebraska)" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
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I wear jeans and usually a light colored coat. I also have TONS of lights and other reflective material along with flags that make me visible. Yes I do understand that the colors are bright and can be seen. But I can get the very same effect by using other items.
I am 50 years old ((young)) and, quite frankly, don't think I would look all that attractive in spandex shorts. I'll stick to what I have been wearing for all these years and I'll pay a little more attention to traffic myself. I feel safer that way.
On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 17:10:21 -0600, "Pat" <[email hidden]>
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"ilaboo" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:6%C9j.97$8y4.96@trnddc07...
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harry
i never did ahve any thing bike to wear just jeans and a jacket and gloves,, havre, Montana
now that i am back to new york city wear it's impossible to describe but tons of bikeres in groups looking like a moving nashbar or performance ad--funny as hell
peter
One reason people wear flashy clothes is to make themselves more easily visible to inattentive car and truck drivers. Jeans and a dark jackets just don't get the job done.