Grrrrrr8

Jon Senior said:

Today I went for a ride after work. A fairly uneventful ride in which I
discovered two new cycle paths (One was an alternative to the Water of
Leith Walkway, the other; a gentle sweeping descent to South
Queensferry). Having bought some nanas in South Queensferry, I pottered
up the hill to eat them and look out over the bridges.

But I didn't reckon on the G8! I noticed the policeman as I stopped, but
didn't realise he was approaching until I started eating.

Plod: "Evening sir. We're just doing routine checks on anyone in this
area because of the high risk.

High risk?

Would you mind me taking your details"

Quoted message said:

Me: "Er... yes actually".

Good on you.

Quoted message said:

To cut a long story short (Why aren't the drivers being stopped and
searched? - We've got them on camera. - You've got me on camera - You
don't have a numberplate - What makes you think it's their car? -
" "😉 I ended up having my basket searched (Oo-er) and
handing over my name and address so that they could look me up in their
database of known terrorists.

Am I the only one who thinks that outsmarting this level of policing is
well within the abilities of the average four year old?

Oh? You think? Want to hear about the time I was arrested in King Lake
for stealing furniture and electrical goods (on a motorcycle) The
basis for arrest was aparently that I was a stranger and on a motorcycle
and not one cop saw the obvious snag in this theory.

(I bet Steven doesnt either🙂 )

There are some dumb coppers out there. Luckily some dumb crims as well.
And generally some dumb people. If we are talking terrorists and we
are talking the blowing up themselfs type some people might consider
than not terribly bright.

Quoted message said:

Jon

"Jon Senior" <jon_AT_restlesslemon_DOT_co_DOT_uk> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

To cut a long story short (Why aren't the drivers being stopped and
searched? - We've got them on camera. - You've got me on camera - You
don't have a numberplate - What makes you think it's their car? - "
"😉 I ended up having my basket searched (Oo-er) and handing over my name
and address so that they could look me up in their database of known
terrorists.

Is that you - John Smith, 3a High Street, Milton Keynes?

I always knew it. Up at 8.30am on a Sunday washing your MG Rover ....

Trouble I tell you.

Jon Senior wrote:

police action snipped.

always worth being up to speed on the stop and search rules; as can be
found on most police authority web sites (google's first offering being
this: http://www.wypa.org/section-item.asp?sid=8&iid=128).

I have a copy of these I carry around on a glossy credit card size
pamphlet - usefully issued by the Hants police.

From the West Yorkshire site, I particularly like:

"Do I have to give officers my name and address?

If you are stopped the officers will ask you some simple questions such
as your name, where you live and where you are going. Unless they are
reporting you for a suspected crime, you don't have to give them these
details, but it makes sense to co-operate. If you are innocent you have
nothing to fear."

I can't believe an official document actually uses that last phrase!

Not Responding <[email hidden]> wrote in news:42cb5fd6$0$146$7b0f0fd3
@reader.news.newnet.co.uk:

Quoted message said:

If you are innocent you have
nothing to fear."

I can't believe an official document actually uses that last phrase!

That's because we're all viewed as being guilty of *something*. 😉

"Looking at me in a funny way..."

On Wed, 06 Jul 2005 00:09:37 +0100, Jon Senior

jon_AT_restlesslemon_DOT_co_DOT_uk said:

Plod: "Evening sir. We're just doing routine checks on anyone in this
area because of the high risk. Would you mind me taking your details"
Me: "Er... yes actually".

Well said!

Quoted message said:

Am I the only one who thinks that outsmarting this level of policing is
well within the abilities of the average four year old?

It's reminiscent of shops who insist on having an address on the back
of a cheque already covered by a cheque guarantee card. Do they really
believe that the fraudsters write down the correct one? Hmmm...

Best wishes,
--
,,
(**)PeeWiglet~~
/ \ / \ pee AT [guessthisbit].co.uk

Jon Senior said:

Am I the only one who thinks that outsmarting this level of policing is
well within the abilities of the average four year old?

But international anarchist/terrorists/bearded ruffians don't use 4 year
olds to sneak past the police, so it's bound to be okay! ;-)

Pete.
--
Peter Clinch Medical Physics IT Officer
Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital
Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK
net [email hidden] http://www.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/

Peewiglet said:

It's reminiscent of shops who insist on having an address on the back
of a cheque already covered by a cheque guarantee card. Do they really
believe that the fraudsters write down the correct one? Hmmm...

....or the stupid bit of green paper you have to fill in when flying into
the States:-

Please tick ALL relevant boxes:-

1. I am a terrorist.
2. I am carrying firearms.
3. I am a member of one or more of the following groups: IRA, Al...
4. I am carrying explosives.

....etc

Chris said:

Peewiglet said:

It's reminiscent of shops who insist on having an address on the back
of a cheque already covered by a cheque guarantee card. Do they really
believe that the fraudsters write down the correct one? Hmmm...

...or the stupid bit of green paper you have to fill in when flying into
the States:-

Please tick ALL relevant boxes:-

1. I am a terrorist.
2. I am carrying firearms.
3. I am a member of one or more of the following groups: IRA, Al...
4. I am carrying explosives.

...etc

Everyone ticks 2

"Peewiglet" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Am I the only one who thinks that outsmarting this level of policing is
well within the abilities of the average four year old?

It's reminiscent of shops who insist on having an address on the back
of a cheque already covered by a cheque guarantee card. Do they really
believe that the fraudsters write down the correct one? Hmmm...

Reminds me of buying a Dell computer... when completing the on screen
instructions you have to state whether you will be using the computer for
any illegal or terrorist activities.... DUH!

Cheers, helen s

dave said:

Chris said:

...or the stupid bit of green paper you have to fill in when flying
into the States:-

Please tick ALL relevant boxes:-

1. I am a terrorist.
2. I am carrying firearms.
3. I am a member of one or more of the following groups: IRA, Al...
4. I am carrying explosives.

...etc

Everyone ticks 2

Surely you can just buy one when you get off the plane, is there not a
Guns 'r' Us franchise in every airport?

Colin

Colin Blackburn said:

Surely you can just buy one when you get off the plane, is there not a
Guns 'r' Us franchise in every airport?

In Texas, quite possibly, in NYC, less likely...

Pete.
--
Peter Clinch Medical Physics IT Officer
Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital
Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK
net [email hidden] http://www.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/

On 07/06/2005 00:09:37 Jon Senior jon_AT_restlesslemon_DOT_co_DOT_uk said:

Today I went for a ride after work. A fairly uneventful ride in which I
discovered two new cycle paths (One was an alternative to the Water of
Leith Walkway, the other; a gentle sweeping descent to South Queensferry).
Having bought some nanas in South Queensferry, I pottered up the hill to
eat them and look out over the bridges.

Quoted message said:

But I didn't reckon on the G8! I noticed the policeman as I stopped, but
didn't realise he was approaching until I started eating.

Quoted message said:

Plod: "Evening sir. We're just doing routine checks on anyone in this
area because of the high risk. Would you mind me taking your details"
Me: "Er... yes actually".

Quoted message said:

To cut a long story short (Why aren't the drivers being stopped and
searched? - We've got them on camera. - You've got me on camera - You
don't have a numberplate - What makes you think it's their car? - " "😉 I
ended up having my basket searched (Oo-er) and handing over my name and
address so that they could look me up in their database of known
terrorists.

Quoted message said:

Am I the only one who thinks that outsmarting this level of policing is
well within the abilities of the average four year old?

Maybe they had been tipped off about possible nanna attacks?

Or it could be that you are cyclist scum and therefore very likely to
be a card carrying anarchist.
--

Buck

I would rather be out on my Catrike

http://www.catrike.co.uk

Jon Senior said:

Plod: "Evening sir. We're just doing routine checks on anyone in
this area because of the high risk. Would you mind me taking your
details"
Me: "Er... yes actually".

Long hair, recumbent bicycle, wicker basket, loaded banana...

Dangerous non-conformist, and just the sort of person Charles Clarke is
out to get. You won't be able to tell them to sod off soon, you'll be
expected to flash your HMG chip and pin.

--
Dave...

dkahn400 said:

Jon Senior said:

Plod: "Evening sir. We're just doing routine checks on anyone in
this area because of the high risk. Would you mind me taking your
details"
Me: "Er... yes actually".

Long hair, recumbent bicycle, wicker basket, loaded banana...

Dangerous non-conformist, and just the sort of person Charles Clarke is
out to get. You won't be able to tell them to sod off soon, you'll be
expected to flash your HMG chip and pin.

Yes, next step after compulsory helmets will be compulsory "sensible"
bikes. We'll all be forced to ride uprights with three speed hubs and
chain guards to the polling stations.

Colin

Peter Clinch <[email hidden]> wrote in news:dag6sc$j3t$1
@dux.dundee.ac.uk:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Surely you can just buy one when you get off the plane, is there not a
Guns 'r' Us franchise in every airport?

In Texas, quite possibly, in NYC, less likely...

Not far wrong. I went to a camping shop in Houston a few years back to get
some spares for my MSR stove. I got a little lost (the place was huge) and
obviously looked rather stunned by the racks and racks of rather large and
scarey looking guns as woman passing by said "Don't worry, these ones
aren't loaded." I decided to by my spares somewhere else that didn't sell
guns.

Graeme

On 07/06/2005 10:23:48 Graeme said:

Peter Clinch <[email hidden]> wrote in news:dag6sc$j3t$1
@dux.dundee.ac.uk:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Surely you can just buy one when you get off the plane, is there not a
Guns 'r' Us franchise in every airport?

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

In Texas, quite possibly, in NYC, less likely...

Quoted message said:

Not far wrong. I went to a camping shop in Houston a few years back to
get some spares for my MSR stove. I got a little lost (the place was
huge) and obviously looked rather stunned by the racks and racks of rather
large and scarey looking guns as woman passing by said "Don't worry, these
ones aren't loaded." I decided to by my spares somewhere else that didn't
sell guns.

Quoted message said:

Graeme

If you go to a gun fair in the U.S., at least in most States, you can
buy a fully automatic weapon and ammo, and no verification or security
checks are required.
--

Buck

I would rather be out on my Catrike

http://www.catrike.co.uk

Graeme said:

Not far wrong. I went to a camping shop in Houston a few years back to get
some spares for my MSR stove. I got a little lost (the place was huge) and
obviously looked rather stunned by the racks and racks of rather large and
scary looking guns as woman passing by said "Don't worry, these ones
aren't loaded." I decided to by my spares somewhere else that didn't sell
guns.

All the big outdoor stores I've aver been to in the US (by "big" here
I'm talking B&Q size sheds) have a gun department. And when you
consider the extent to which hunting is a popular outdoor pastime, it's
not surprising. Or of itself, especially worrying: a hunting rifle
isn't actually /that/ much use in typical criminal activities where it's
threatening people combined with ease of concealment that counts rather
than long range accuracy. Shotguns more so, granted, but shotguns
aren't that unusual in the UK. You can buy one in the gun shop in the
middle of Dundee...

Pete.
--
Peter Clinch Medical Physics IT Officer
Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital
Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK
net [email hidden] http://www.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/

Colin Blackburn said:

dave said:

Chris said:

...or the stupid bit of green paper you have to fill in when flying
into the States:-

Please tick ALL relevant boxes:-

1. I am a terrorist.
2. I am carrying firearms.
3. I am a member of one or more of the following groups: IRA, Al...
4. I am carrying explosives.

...etc

Everyone ticks 2

Surely you can just buy one when you get off the plane, is there not a
Guns 'r' Us franchise in every airport?

Colin

Yeah but they only have rubbish 😉

Graeme said:

Peter Clinch <[email hidden]> wrote in news:dag6sc$j3t$1
@dux.dundee.ac.uk:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Surely you can just buy one when you get off the plane, is there not a
Guns 'r' Us franchise in every airport?

In Texas, quite possibly, in NYC, less likely...

Not far wrong. I went to a camping shop in Houston a few years back to get
some spares for my MSR stove. I got a little lost (the place was huge) and
obviously looked rather stunned by the racks and racks of rather large and
scarey looking guns as woman passing by said "Don't worry, these ones
aren't loaded." I decided to by my spares somewhere else that didn't sell
guns.

Graeme

A long while ago my dad bought a rifle at Kmart. It was a stirling semi
auto in .22 RMF

To our amazement it turned out to be a full auto. And a dangerous POS

Moral. Supermarket guns are [censored].

Where else have I heard that 🙂