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  1. A friend has offered me a rather nice 23" Gudereit touring frame with
    horizontal drop-outs, which I quite like the look of.

    What would you suggest I do with it?

    Is a frame of this kind suitable for a fixed-wheel setup?

    Daniele

  2. D.M. Procida said:

    A friend has offered me a rather nice 23" Gudereit touring frame with
    horizontal drop-outs, which I quite like the look of.

    What would you suggest I do with it?

    Is a frame of this kind suitable for a fixed-wheel setup?

    I would have thought so. Any bike can be converted to fixed wheel as far
    as I know, even ones with vertical drop outs. There is a rear hub
    available that has an eccentric axle, though it is not cheap.

    http://www.hubjub.co.uk/white/white.htm

    --
    Don Whybrow

    Sequi Bonum Non Time

    A conclusion is the place where you get tired of thinking.
    (Arthur Bloch)

  3. Don Whybrow wrote on 06/05/2007 08:45 +0100:

    Quoted message said:
    D.M. Procida said:

    A friend has offered me a rather nice 23" Gudereit touring frame with
    horizontal drop-outs, which I quite like the look of.

    What would you suggest I do with it?

    Is a frame of this kind suitable for a fixed-wheel setup?

    I would have thought so. Any bike can be converted to fixed wheel as far
    as I know, even ones with vertical drop outs. There is a rear hub
    available that has an eccentric axle, though it is not cheap.

    http://www.hubjub.co.uk/white/white.htm

    You wouldn't need that here as it has horizontal drop outs which make it
    ideal for a fixed conversion. I would recommend getting a rear flipflop
    hub from Sheldon as you can then make it an easy switch fixed/single
    speed. He also does a full fixed conversion kit for $500 with everything
    you need bar the frame.
    http://sheldonbrown.com/harris/fixed-hubs.html
    http://sheldonbrown.com/harris/fixed.html#kits

    --
    Tony

    "The most savage controversies are those about matters as to which there
    is no good evidence either way."
    - Bertrand Russell

  4. Tony Raven said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    A friend has offered me a rather nice 23" Gudereit touring frame with
    horizontal drop-outs, which I quite like the look of.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Is a frame of this kind suitable for a fixed-wheel setup?

    I would have thought so. Any bike can be converted to fixed wheel as far
    as I know

    You wouldn't need that here as it has horizontal drop outs which make it
    ideal for a fixed conversion. I would recommend getting a rear flipflop
    hub from Sheldon as you can then make it an easy switch fixed/single
    speed. He also does a full fixed conversion kit for $500 with everything
    you need bar the frame.

    It's a bit much to order stuff from the US for it, with a bike shop only
    five minutes away.

    The person who offered it to me says it's a fairly laid-back
    touring-hybrid kind of thing, so perhaps it's not the frame to be turned
    into an ultra-responsive minimalist street pirate bike.

    It has a rear mudguard and pannier frame mounted at the moment, which
    are of course both practical, but I already have a practical bike.

    How is Sheldon these days?

    Daniele

  5. D.M. Procida wrote on 06/05/2007 09:37 +0100:

    Quoted message said:


    How is Sheldon these days?

    None too good if you've been following his journal for news:
    http://sheldonbrown.org/journal/health.html
    :-(
    --
    Tony

    "The most savage controversies are those about matters as to which there
    is no good evidence either way."
    - Bertrand Russell

  6. D.M. Procida wrote on 06/05/2007 09:37 +0100:

    Quoted message said:


    It's a bit much to order stuff from the US for it, with a bike shop only
    five minutes away.

    Maybe but I found Sheldon had a good selection of the bits I wanted
    (although I was able to drop in the shop to buy them) vs finding good
    reasonable price flip flop hubs and other bits in the UK was not easy.
    If your LBS can get them though shop local.

    Quoted message said:


    The person who offered it to me says it's a fairly laid-back
    touring-hybrid kind of thing, so perhaps it's not the frame to be turned
    into an ultra-responsive minimalist street pirate bike.

    The company still exists but their bikes don't look anything special
    looking at their website. Probably not worth spending a lot on it.
    http://www.gudereit.de/

    --
    Tony

    "The most savage controversies are those about matters as to which there
    is no good evidence either way."
    - Bertrand Russell

  7. Tony Raven said:

    Don Whybrow wrote on 06/05/2007 08:45 +0100:

    Quoted message said:
    D.M. Procida said:

    A friend has offered me a rather nice 23" Gudereit touring frame with
    horizontal drop-outs, which I quite like the look of.

    What would you suggest I do with it?

    Is a frame of this kind suitable for a fixed-wheel setup?

    I would have thought so. Any bike can be converted to fixed wheel as
    far as I know, even ones with vertical drop outs. There is a rear hub
    available that has an eccentric axle, though it is not cheap.

    http://www.hubjub.co.uk/white/white.htm

    You wouldn't need that here as it has horizontal drop outs which make it
    ideal for a fixed conversion. I would recommend getting a rear flipflop
    hub from Sheldon as you can then make it an easy switch fixed/single
    speed. He also does a full fixed conversion kit for $500 with everything
    you need bar the frame.
    http://sheldonbrown.com/harris/fixed-hubs.html
    http://sheldonbrown.com/harris/fixed.html#kits

    Tony, you are, of course, correct in that the OP was talking about
    horizontal drop outs. I was merely attempting to point out that it is
    now possible to get fixed hubs that will fit on vertical ones. As for
    the suggestion of using Mr Brown to source them, that is your
    prerogative. I, on the other hand, am happy to go to one of the LBS's
    near here that are able to source System EX hubs. These look remarkably
    similar to the Harris Cycle branded ones and come in at around the
    £20-£30 mark without having to pay shipping from the US. As for the
    other bits, I am sure the OP could obtain them second hand from places
    such as ebay or perhaps even a local re-cycling concern like we have in
    Edinburgh with the Bike Station.

    --
    Don Whybrow

    Sequi Bonum Non Time

    "There is a wicked pretense that one has been informed. But no
    such thing has truly occurred! A mere slogan, an empty litany.
    No arguments are heard, no evidence is weighed. It isn't news at
    all, only a source of amusement for idlers." (Gibson-Sterling,
    The Difference Engine)

  8. D.M. Procida said:

    A friend has offered me a rather nice 23" Gudereit touring frame with
    horizontal drop-outs, which I quite like the look of.

    What would you suggest I do with it?

    Beyond the obvious answer of adding a couple of wheels, front forks,
    handlebars, brakes, etc. I don't know. But hello. Have you been lurking
    for long?

    Cheers,
    Luke

    --
    Lincoln City 0-2 Southend United (AET)
    Swansea City 2-2 Southend United
    We went up twice with Tilly and Brush

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