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On Sat, 28 May 2005 02:22:55 -0500, OmManiPadmeOmelet
<[email hidden]> wrote:

Re your co-worker:

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I know... I don't say anything to her as I know she already knows.
It's not necessary.

I simply remove "temptation" whenever I have the opportunity!

Don't even do that.

Every Friday, my office's lunch room is filled with dozens of bagels.
My own attorney brings in Krispy Kreme donuts every Thursday - and I
send out the general announcement for him. Almost every cubicle has
jars of candy, bowls of chocolates, etc., all available to anyone
walking by.

I never touch the stuff. No one needs to remove it from my sight or
smell. I've made the decision. Your co-worker either will or won't,
but no matter how much you care (and I do sense you care), you're not
her Jiminy Cricket. Treat her like the adult she is.

Re my own co-worker:

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Ugh. She has no clu' has she?
Weightlifting helps bones and joints by strengthening the muscles that
do the supporting!

Exactly. But she's skinny, so she's right and I'm wrong. I have no
joint problems, no cholesterol problems, no blood pressure problems -
mine is now simply an aesthetics problem, but I'm still wrong.

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Studies have also shown that weight lifting is about the only thing that
actually REVERSES ostioporosis!!! Something to do with the strain on the
bones from the tendons and ligaments activating osteocytes and getting
them to deposit denser bones.

Tell me about it - I got my mother into weight lifting, and she
started straightening up again (she's lost about 2 inches of height in
the past decade). She became more flexible, stopped aching, and just
generally feels better.

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I do both, but I prefer a stairmaster. ;-)

I do laps in my gym's pool - walking and swimming. Followed by 10
delicious minutes in the jacuzzi - stark nekkid.

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Has she never heard of "essential fatty acids"?

Yes, but to her dietary fat is a fearful thing. She would, quite
literally, rather be dead than gain an ounce.

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Hehehe!
My shoulders are accomodating.....

Thanks for the kind offer!

Myra

Hannah Gruen said:

Her insistence on doing low-carb plus low-fat may be a big part of the
problem. It's likely difficult to maintain normal hormonal levels when
eliminating all the fat from your diet, especially (but not limited to) the
essential fatty acids. And properly-balanced hormones are necessary to
maintain bone health. Apparently, based on population studies, the decline
in hormone levels at menopause isn't necessarily enough to cause
demineralization of bones. Vegetarians point to excess protein as causal in
osteoporosis, but there are plenty of long-term vegans with osteoporosis.
I'd guess it's a combination of things. But you can't make the hormones your
body wants to make without enough of the right fats. Too much protein may be
a problem also, and as has been noted here a zillion times low-carb diets
almost by necessity become high-protein when fat is restricted, in order to
provide enough calories. I agree with you about adding resistance
exercise... that's a proven way to help keep bone.

Hannah!

Wanna come visit my office? She's really little - we could just STOMP
the information into her.

With those bad hips, it's not like she could run away from us....

LOL!

Myra

Kevin Martin (Homebrewer) said:

In article <[email hidden]>,
[email hidden] says...

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Oh, and she wears clothes that are 30 years too young for her - talk
about mutton dressed as lamb. ::shudder::

I want to use that one please. I've never heard it before but it is
hilarious and I will make appropriate attributions.
I am STILL laughing!

Of course you can steal it from me. I stole it from Trinny and
Susannah from BBC's "What Not to Wear," and I'm sure they stole it
from somewhere - it's probably a well known saying in England.

I adore Trinny and Susannah. I want them to come and do me.

Myra

In a previous article said:

It's just nice to be noticed, rather than feeling like I'm in everyone's
way. I'm fine with it as long as they keep moving! If they would've pulled
over and asked if I wanted a "ride" I probably would have pepper sprayed
them.

These guys just did the "pretty girl" whistle and the other one yelled
"lookin' good baby girl!" It made me feel pretty darn good! I consider it
kind of a compliment.

I agree. The crude sexual comment are gross and disgusting, but I
remember being 30 and a size 8, walking across a parking lot. There
was a small construction crew doing something about 20 feet away, and
one of the guys yelled "Lights! Camera! Action!" I was tickled.

There are ways of being complimentary without being threatening or too
intrusive.

I do, however, understand and respect people who simply don't want
strangers commenting on their looks, negative *or* positive. It comes
down to personal preference.

Vicki
--
Of all the stupid things I've done, this is certainly the most recent.
- Chris Clarke

"Myra" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

In article <[email hidden]>,
[email hidden] says...

Quoted message said:

Oh, and she wears clothes that are 30 years too young for her - talk
about mutton dressed as lamb. ::shudder::

I want to use that one please. I've never heard it before but it is
hilarious and I will make appropriate attributions.
I am STILL laughing!

Of course you can steal it from me. I stole it from Trinny and
Susannah from BBC's "What Not to Wear," and I'm sure they stole it
from somewhere - it's probably a well known saying in England.

I adore Trinny and Susannah. I want them to come and do me.

I think they're fantastic! 🙂 And I like their rules better than Stacey &
Clinton's rules.

In article <[email hidden]>,

(Vicki Robinson) said:

In a previous article said:

It's just nice to be noticed, rather than feeling like I'm in everyone's
way. I'm fine with it as long as they keep moving! If they would've pulled
over and asked if I wanted a "ride" I probably would have pepper sprayed
them.

These guys just did the "pretty girl" whistle and the other one yelled
"lookin' good baby girl!" It made me feel pretty darn good! I consider it
kind of a compliment.

I agree. The crude sexual comment are gross and disgusting, but I
remember being 30 and a size 8, walking across a parking lot. There
was a small construction crew doing something about 20 feet away, and
one of the guys yelled "Lights! Camera! Action!" I was tickled.

There are ways of being complimentary without being threatening or too
intrusive.

I do, however, understand and respect people who simply don't want
strangers commenting on their looks, negative *or* positive. It comes
down to personal preference.

Vicki

I just don't like feeling like my existence is ornamental. When it
happens to me, it's just so out of context. Like when I'm wearing my
ugly work polo with stains on it, hair in a bandana because I didn't
have time to style it, no makeup, running last minute errands before
work, and I get catcalls. I feel like "Hey, I'm just living my life
here, I didn't come here to be on display for you." I don't like the
assumption that any woman, any place, any time, is there for the sole
purpose of entertaining passing male strangers.

It's different when I'm somewhere like a bar, club, or party. When I'm
obviously dressed up, made up, styled, there to have fun, and someone
flirts with me. It can still make me uncomfortable, but I know in those
circumstances that's just my issues, because I know my appearance,
behavior, and the circumstances welcome attention from the opposite sex,
so I don't view what the men are doing as inappropriate in that
situation.

On Sun, 29 May 2005 09:47:41 -0400, "Sprgtime" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

"Myra" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

Quoted message said:

I adore Trinny and Susannah. I want them to come and do me.

I think they're fantastic! 🙂 And I like their rules better than Stacey &
Clinton's rules.

Who are Stacey and Clinton? The anti-Trinny and Susannah? I don't
watch the American version....

Myra

In article <[email hidden]>,

Myra said:

On Sat, 28 May 2005 02:22:55 -0500, OmManiPadmeOmelet
<[email hidden]> wrote:

Re your co-worker:

Quoted message said:

I know... I don't say anything to her as I know she already knows.
It's not necessary.

I simply remove "temptation" whenever I have the opportunity!

Don't even do that.

Sorry, I don't feel guilty tossing stale krispy kreams into the trash.
;-) While I'm not the least bit tempted, they stink up the room. ;-P

Quoted message said:

Every Friday, my office's lunch room is filled with dozens of bagels.
My own attorney brings in Krispy Kreme donuts every Thursday - and I
send out the general announcement for him. Almost every cubicle has
jars of candy, bowls of chocolates, etc., all available to anyone
walking by.

<sigh>
Sugar addiction.
Bad stuff.

Quoted message said:

I never touch the stuff. No one needs to remove it from my sight or
smell. I've made the decision. Your co-worker either will or won't,
but no matter how much you care (and I do sense you care), you're not
her Jiminy Cricket. Treat her like the adult she is.

She is dying.....
Congestive heart failure.

They've managed to get it under control for now, but still!

Quoted message said:

Re my own co-worker:

Quoted message said:

Ugh. She has no clu' has she?
Weightlifting helps bones and joints by strengthening the muscles that
do the supporting!

Exactly. But she's skinny, so she's right and I'm wrong. I have no
joint problems, no cholesterol problems, no blood pressure problems -
mine is now simply an aesthetics problem, but I'm still wrong.

<lol> I know that feeling. ;-)
I'm SO glad that another of my co-workers has finally discovered what
I've seen all along in low carbing! Her problem was that she had to
learn to like meat.

Fortunately, I've always been a carnivoir.

Last night was pressure cooked chicken feet. <lol> My housemate was not
feeling well so I bought some feet as they make the best, richest and
most medicinal stock. I removed the feet for my own personal private
treat after making the stock broth. He will eat the stock but not the
feet. <G>

To that I added rehydrated [censored] mushroom, a whole large chopped
onion, some strips of Nori and egg drops, along with lemon pepper,
garlic and fresh ginger.

Very medicinal and very delicious. He is feeling better today!

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Studies have also shown that weight lifting is about the only thing that
actually REVERSES ostioporosis!!! Something to do with the strain on the
bones from the tendons and ligaments activating osteocytes and getting
them to deposit denser bones.

Tell me about it - I got my mother into weight lifting, and she
started straightening up again (she's lost about 2 inches of height in
the past decade). She became more flexible, stopped aching, and just
generally feels better.

Maybe you could print out some articles for her to read, if she would
raed them?

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I do both, but I prefer a stairmaster. ;-)

I do laps in my gym's pool - walking and swimming. Followed by 10
delicious minutes in the jacuzzi - stark nekkid.

Sounds lovely!
If I can ever get a routine schedule, I've considered going to the river
in the morning, putting on my big fins and swimming up river against the
current for 1/2 mile or so. THAT would be good I think!

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Has she never heard of "essential fatty acids"?

Yes, but to her dietary fat is a fearful thing. She would, quite
literally, rather be dead than gain an ounce.

Skinny is not necessarily healthy. :-(

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Hehehe!
My shoulders are accomodating.....

Thanks for the kind offer!

Myra

;-)

Cheers!

Quoted message said:

--
Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

"Myra" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

Quoted message said:

On Sun, 29 May 2005 09:47:41 -0400, "Sprgtime" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

"Myra" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

Quoted message said:

I adore Trinny and Susannah. I want them to come and do me.

I think they're fantastic! 🙂 And I like their rules better than Stacey &
Clinton's rules.

Who are Stacey and Clinton? The anti-Trinny and Susannah? I don't
watch the American version....

Myra

They are the American version of T&S in "What Not to Wear". However, they
have different opinions of what flatters which figures. T&S, for instance,
say that busty women should have deeper necklines... not necessarily showing
cleavage, but it needs to be open and v-neck shapes are always good (I've
found this to be true on myself, v-necks actually seem to minimize a little
and make me look more normal). T&S say that the worst thing a busty girl
can do is wear, say, a turtleneck. And that the worst thing a flat-chested
girl can do is wear a very deep v-neck - I think they called it an arrow
pointing to disappointment. Ha ha.
Anyway... S&C somehow got this reversed and I've seen them recommend
covered, busy necklines for busty women (and it looks exactly like T&S say -
that the [censored] start right at the neck) and they are constantly putting very
low cut tops (one with the V clear down to the belly!) on women who are not
naturally endowed.

I do like S&C's insults. 🙂 But I'd rather hear advice from T&S, I trust
their input and practicality more.

On Sun, 29 May 2005 17:27:49 -0400, "Sprgtime" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

They are the American version of T&S in "What Not to Wear". However, they
have different opinions of what flatters which figures. T&S, for instance,
say that busty women should have deeper necklines... not necessarily showing
cleavage, but it needs to be open and v-neck shapes are always good (I've
found this to be true on myself, v-necks actually seem to minimize a little
and make me look more normal). T&S say that the worst thing a busty girl
can do is wear, say, a turtleneck. And that the worst thing a flat-chested
girl can do is wear a very deep v-neck - I think they called it an arrow
pointing to disappointment. Ha ha.

Heheheh. I like them because they dress to their own rules -
flat-chested Trinny never wears anything low-cut, and busty Susannah
never wears any high-necked tops.

Let's see if I follow their advice for myself:

For my own shape - which is basically a long-torsoed beachball on
short legs (sigh) - I tend to wear long tops or tunics to cover my
belly (which is going bye-bye soon), full-length slacks to give my
legs some length, and usually a v-neckline. I'm not particularly
busty - just a B cup - but I wear bras that enhance what I have, and
since I don't have a long neck, the v-neck makes it look longer.

In tops, I find either a trapeze or men's shirttail style to be the
most flattering, as the former enhances the bust and the illusion of
hips, and the latter covers my belly, but not the sides of my legs,
which makes them look longer (also hip enhancing). Because I'm long
waisted but not particularly tall (5'4), I steer far away from dresses
- when I need to show my legs (which are quite shapely, at least from
the knees down!), I wear separates - petite skirts and regular or tall
jackets.

Since I'm a very fair-skinned, natural dark blonde, I stay away from
pastels and other colors that wash me out and stick with rich jewel
tones or medium greens and lavenders. I used to avoid browns like the
plague, but I've found that a chocolate brown works well. I do wear a
lot of black, but not because I'm trying to hide anything - it's just
that black offsets my coloring really well.

After spending years in sneakers on the advice of my orthopedist
because of chronic achilles tendonitis, I started wearing low to
medium heels (and found the tendonitis just went away - hmm). Now
that I get regular pedicures, I'm favoring open-toed shoes lately.

If you want to see what I look like, you can go to Yahoo personals:
http://personals.yahoo.com/us/historygal1. The pics were taken in
April (new pics next week, after I have my hair done).

Myra

OmManiPadmeOmelet said:

Sorry, I don't feel guilty tossing stale krispy kreams into the trash.
;-) While I'm not the least bit tempted, they stink up the room. ;-P

Well, that's not quite the same thing. 🙂

Quoted message said:

She is dying.....
Congestive heart failure.

We all kill ourselves in our own way - you can't do anything to stop
her, and if she wants to live, she'll stop herself.

Quoted message said:

Fortunately, I've always been a carnivoir.

Meat. Mmmm.

Quoted message said:

Last night was pressure cooked chicken feet. <lol> My housemate was not
feeling well so I bought some feet as they make the best, richest and
most medicinal stock. I removed the feet for my own personal private
treat after making the stock broth. He will eat the stock but not the
feet. <G>

My grandmother used to eat chicken feet - and they do make good stock,
when you can find them. Usually, I can find them at Ranch 99 - a
local chain of Asian supermarkets.

When I do a chicken soup, I make a double stock - start with a
double-sized batch (two gallons of water plus the fixings), then start
all over using the first stock to make the second. Very rich.

Tonight was a ribeye steak and sauteed mushrooms with a Kroger's
low-carb strawberry yogurt for dessert (always on sale at Ralph's - 10
for $5.00). When the ribeyes are on special, I buy at least a dozen
and keep 'em in the freezer for the weekends. Usually, I eat only two
meals on my days off so I eat a bit more than usual for dinner.

For tomorrow, I've defrosted a brisket from Trader Joe's, and I'm
going to smoke it out on my balcony over pecan wood. An all-day
project, but definitely worth it. Besides, how many
apartment-dwelling chicks do you know who own a meat smoker???

Quoted message said:

Maybe you could print out some articles for her to read, if she would
raed them?

Nah - trying to educate her is like trying to teach a pig to sing. It
only frustrates you and annoys the pig.

Quoted message said:

Sounds lovely!
If I can ever get a routine schedule, I've considered going to the river
in the morning, putting on my big fins and swimming up river against the
current for 1/2 mile or so. THAT would be good I think!

It must be nice to live near a river you can swim in! LOL! I live
about 100 feet from the L.A. River, but, uh, it's not the kind of
river you want to swim in - even when it actually has water in it.

Quoted message said:

Skinny is not necessarily healthy. :-(

Nope, it isn't. But don't forget - I live in La-La Land where being
skinny is "better" than being healthy.

Myra

In article <[email hidden]>,

Myra said:

OmManiPadmeOmelet said:

Sorry, I don't feel guilty tossing stale krispy kreams into the trash.
;-) While I'm not the least bit tempted, they stink up the room. ;-P

Well, that's not quite the same thing. 🙂

Funny how I can no longer stand the smell of stale sugary baked goods
now that I am no longer interested in eating them.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

She is dying.....
Congestive heart failure.

We all kill ourselves in our own way - you can't do anything to stop
her, and if she wants to live, she'll stop herself.

I hope so...
She really is a good human being and I hate to see where she is going
with this.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Fortunately, I've always been a carnivoir.

Meat. Mmmm.

Indeed!

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Last night was pressure cooked chicken feet. <lol> My housemate was not
feeling well so I bought some feet as they make the best, richest and
most medicinal stock. I removed the feet for my own personal private
treat after making the stock broth. He will eat the stock but not the
feet. <G>

My grandmother used to eat chicken feet - and they do make good stock,
when you can find them. Usually, I can find them at Ranch 99 - a
local chain of Asian supermarkets.

I get them at "Fiesta" in Austin. A big Mexican supermarket.
Great place to produce shop too.

Quoted message said:

When I do a chicken soup, I make a double stock - start with a
double-sized batch (two gallons of water plus the fixings), then start
all over using the first stock to make the second. Very rich.

Sounds lovely!

Quoted message said:

Tonight was a ribeye steak and sauteed mushrooms with a Kroger's
low-carb strawberry yogurt for dessert (always on sale at Ralph's - 10
for $5.00). When the ribeyes are on special, I buy at least a dozen
and keep 'em in the freezer for the weekends. Usually, I eat only two
meals on my days off so I eat a bit more than usual for dinner.

I tend to also eat only 1 or 2 meals per day on my days off. I just get
so busy!

Tonight was a pork shoulder pot roast. I stabbed the roast all over and
stuffed garlic slivers into the stabs, then topped it with sliced
shallots and fresh herbs from the herb garden. Placed that in a large
cast iron pot and added quartered onions, and chunks of carrots, celery,
whole mushrooms and chunks of portabellos, and just a few peeled pieces
of yam.

Came out quite good! I have to work tomorrow so won't be doing anything
special for memorial day. There will be plenty of pot roast left over.
The rest of the chickenfoot/[censored] soup went into the freezer. I'll
thaw it out when the rest of the pot roast is gone.

I'll probably not have to cook for the next 5 or 6 days. ;-)

I envy you the cheap rib-eyes. They have not been under $7.00 per lb.
here now for a long time! If I have to pay that for meat, I'll buy
shrimp!

Quoted message said:

For tomorrow, I've defrosted a brisket from Trader Joe's, and I'm
going to smoke it out on my balcony over pecan wood. An all-day
project, but definitely worth it. Besides, how many
apartment-dwelling chicks do you know who own a meat smoker???

This is Texas, You'd be surprised. ;-)

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Maybe you could print out some articles for her to read, if she would
raed them?

Nah - trying to educate her is like trying to teach a pig to sing. It
only frustrates you and annoys the pig.

Quoted message said:

Sounds lovely!
If I can ever get a routine schedule, I've considered going to the river
in the morning, putting on my big fins and swimming up river against the
current for 1/2 mile or so. THAT would be good I think!

It must be nice to live near a river you can swim in! LOL! I live
about 100 feet from the L.A. River, but, uh, it's not the kind of
river you want to swim in - even when it actually has water in it.

I know. I was born in LA. We left there when I was 12.

This River is beautiful! It comes out of ground springs and I can swim
right below the source. The water is very pure and clear so if I snorkel
or scuba, it's like swimming in an aquarium if I go when there are no
other swimmers silting it up.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Skinny is not necessarily healthy. :-(

Nope, it isn't. But don't forget - I live in La-La Land where being
skinny is "better" than being healthy.

Myra

Indeed......

Quoted message said:

--
Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson