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  1. It's been one of those weekends. Saturday the weather was
    too horrible to go sailing, so in the end I worked all
    morning and half the afternoon. And then the weather was
    still horrible so I stated playing a computer game, as you
    do. And, as you do, I went on playing it late into the night
    (and then it crashed just as I was about to achieve
    something), and the consequence of that was I overslept my
    tide this morning. Although in all probability I'd have got
    down to the marina, looked at the weather and thought,
    nah... It was gey dreich. So I was determined to get a bike
    out but what with one thing and another the day was getting
    by. Finally about four o'clock I stuck the Mantra on the
    back of the truck and headed up country.

    I left the truck at Stroan Loch and cycled up the Raiders'
    Road. The wind, which had been easily force six down on the
    coast, was pretty blustery out of the west but not too bad
    because it was at right angles to my direction. By the time
    I got to the Otter Pool it was raining quite sturdily, so I
    stopped, peeled off my jersey and pulled on my waterproof.
    Then on up the Raider's Road. I've cycled it before; it's an
    interesting but not altogether pleasant surface to ride on
    being essentially a dirt road but much better graded than
    most dirt roads, so the surface finish where it hasn't been
    chewed up is almost as smooth as tarmac. Unfortunately it
    had been chewed up a bit by the Galloway Hills Rally which
    was through there a couple of weeks ago... It's a filthy
    surface, though, and the bike was covered in a fine dark
    grey grit.

    You're also climbing steadily but noticeably along the whole
    length of the Raiders' Road, mostly running close alongside
    the Black Water. And it's pretty scenic. The Black Water is
    gorgeous, particularly in the long sections where it runs
    over beds of flat rock. Towards the Clatteringshaws end the
    road swings away from the water quite steeply up the
    hillside, and as the sun had now come out (the weather
    improved steadily) I stopped at the top to change my
    waterproof back for my jersey. Then a blast back down almost
    to river level and another short climb and I turned left
    onto the tarmac of the A712... for all of fifty yards. And
    then left again onto the track up to Loch Grannoch, which is
    signposted as part of NCN7.

    Somewhere in Galloway this summer there is an osprey
    nesting. The RSPB are, very carefully, not saying where.
    It's probably on one of the really inaccessible lochs up in
    upper Galloway, but short of going into serious wilderness
    the most remote lochs are Loch Grannoch and Loch Skerrow, so
    I was half hoping to see one. Unfortunately you see very
    little of Loch Grannoch because of the trees, although in
    one section of clear fell there was a marvelous view out
    over it. It's typical of Galloway, really. Here's a loch
    about the size of Coniston and at least as scenic as
    Coniston and there's actually no public road which is even
    in the same glen - has even a view of it.

    The track up to Loch Grannoch was mostly cycling down
    corridors of spruce forest. Initially the track was uphill
    for two or three miles and sort of average landrover track
    quality, but halfway down the loch it was being used by
    harvesters and forwarders and was a bit chewed up, and as it
    started to descend past the lower end of the loch it was
    very loose and rough indeed. My Mantra has an enormous
    amount of good smooth travel at the back, and four inches of
    not-very-good suspension at the front, and it was just about
    able to cope with going down that track at a reasonable
    pace, although it was a jarring experience. I would hate to
    try it on a fully laden touring bike, or even a hardtail
    mountain bike. And this is THE SAME national cycle route -
    NCN7 - which meanders down gentle country lanes not five
    miles from my home. Sustrans are crazy. A bike that could
    cope with the track down from Loch Grannoch to the Big Water
    of Fleet Viaduct is not going to be suitable for gentle
    country lanes, and vice versa. Still, it was a glorious,
    fast, bumpy bash down to the viaduct, and there the first
    minor problem with my plan manifested itself.

    I hadn't known for certain whether you could get up from NCN
    7 onto the old railway line, but I'd assumed I'd find a way
    when the time came. When I got there, there I was on the
    west bank of the Fleet. And there, leading up from NCN7, was
    a nice landrover track up onto the railway at the west end
    of the massively sturdy viaduct. And there, neatly across
    the viaduct was an eight foot high barbed-wire-entanglement-
    topped barrier.

    Whoops.

    Oh well, not going to get across the viaduct. What now? I
    did think of cycling down into Gatehouse and getting a taxi
    back to the truck, or even cycling the long way round by the
    road. But it felt so wimpish. Instead I turned round and
    cycled back up towards Loch Grannoch, crossing the Fleet on
    a low bridge, to where I'd seen a track off to the south
    east. I can't actually focus on a map without my reading
    glasses, which I didn't have with me, but it seemed to sweep
    round and run parallel to the railway. So I thought I'd try
    it. Initially there was a long curving climb on an
    atrociously loose, rough surface - although to be fair the
    Mantra coped with it fairly well and I was able to keep up a
    reasonable speed. After a bit it levelled out and ran
    straight and I could see by the sun I was riding in
    approximately the right direction. I kept thinking that the
    railway couldn't be more than a few hundred yards south of
    me, and kept looking down firebreaks to see if I could see
    it. None of them looked ridable. And in any case the track
    was now impressively straight and with a nice easy gradient
    - impressively well engineered for a forestry road -- and
    then suddenly I was in a cutting.

    Oh, well, that's alright, then.

    After a couple of miles or so of this well engineered (but
    still quite rough) track, the track started to twist
    downhill and I realised I'd come to the now demolished
    Little Water of Fleet viaduct. They've made an impressive
    job cleaning up. I couldn't see any of the piers - it's been
    dismantled completely, almost as if it had never been there.
    Only the ends of the old embankment give it away.

    In any case the track crossed the Little Water of Fleet and
    came to a junction; one branch climbed back up towards the
    railway line. I followed this, and to my surprise the second
    minor problem with my plan appeared. The track went straight
    across the old line, and disappeared off south down the
    glen. The old line itself was thickly overgrown with broom
    and willow. It looked as though I would not be able to get
    the bike through.

    Whoops.

    By the old line I was about five miles back to the truck. By
    the way I'd come, about twenty. Down by the road and round,
    probably the same. I pushed for fifty yards through thick
    vegetation, and then suddenly the track cleared again, and
    was just the ballast of the railway track exactly as it must
    have been when they lifted the sleepers. I got on and
    started to ride.

    Looking on the map it's about a mile from the Little Water
    of Fleet viaduct to Loch Skerrow. However that mile was
    definitely the most interesting and most adventurous of the
    whole trip, and it felt like more. There were alternately
    sections of more or less bare clinker, sections which were
    partly overgrown with mosses and grass, and sections which
    were heavily overgrown (one or two more where I got off and
    pushed through). Then (this is Galloway) there were two
    sharp granite ridges that ran across the line. What has they
    done? Blasted through, of course. Absolutely vertical sided
    cuttings. There must have been no more than inches to spare
    on either side of a standard railway carriage - it must have
    been spectacular when the railway was in use. It's still
    pretty spectacular.

    Then there was a short section where the track ran in a
    slight cutting, and it had been flooded for some time. The
    trackbed was still there, but under about 200mm of evil greeny-
    black ooze. I pedalled _very_ carefully through that. Then a
    quick lift over a gate that clearly hadn't been opened for a
    very long time, and there was Loch Skerrow on my left. The
    west end of Loch Skerrow - which I'd never seen before - is
    even more spectacular than the east end. By this time my
    headset was feeling decidedly loose and unhappy. I stopped
    to try to fix it, but didn't achieve much. Part of the
    problem is that so long as you're cycling the midges can't
    keep up, but as soon as you stop IT'S DINNERTIME!

    On, despite worries about the headset, through Loch Skerrow
    halt, and then bombing down the last couple of miles with
    Stroan Loch glinting ahead of me on my left and a rainbow
    (it was raining again, out of a clear blue sky) ahead on my
    right. Brilliant.

    Happiness is a filthy bike.

    As an afterthought - in the whole trip I saw four cars
    moving, and two cars parked. In the carpark at Stroan Loch
    where I left the truck there were six people looking at
    the view; I didn't see any other people at all. Not bad
    for one of the most scenic places in Britain, in the
    middle of summer.

    --
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  2. Simon Brooke said:

    It's been one of those weekends. Saturday the weather was
    too horrible to go sailing, so in the end I worked all
    morning and half the afternoon. And then the weather was
    still horrible so I stated playing a computer game, as you
    do. And, as you do, I went on playing it late into the
    night (and then it crashed just as I was about to achieve
    something), and the consequence of that was I overslept my
    tide this morning. Although in all probability I'd have
    got down to the marina, looked at the weather and thought,
    nah... It was gey dreich. So I was determined to get a
    bike out but what with one thing and another the day was
    getting by. Finally about four o'clock I stuck the Mantra
    on the back of the truck and headed up country. <snip>

    I find riding off road very hard work - and never get a
    chance to look at the scenery, unless I stop.

    Riding the Peddars Way today was no different. Much of it
    has a single rut about 4" wide which I find requires a head-
    down, business-like type concentration; a moderable wobble
    would cause the front wheel to hit the sides of the rut and
    threaten to pitch me off.

    I guess this is what makes off-road cycling a challenge,
    and I enjoyed it; but I find it mutually exclusive with
    Scenery watching.

    --
    Chris

  3. In article <[email hidden]>, Simon

    Brooke said:

    Happiness is a filthy bike.

    Happiness is when all the bikes are clean but I did enjoy
    your posting:-)

    --
    A T (Sandy) Morton on the Bicycle Island In the Global
    Village millport.netmillport.net

  4. Simon Brooke said:

    The track up to Loch Grannoch was mostly cycling down
    corridors of spruce forest. Initially the track was uphill
    for two or three miles and sort of average landrover track
    quality, but halfway down the loch it was being used by
    harvesters and forwarders and was a bit chewed up, and as
    it started to descend past the lower end of the loch it
    was very loose and rough indeed. My Mantra has an enormous
    amount of good smooth travel at the back, and four inches
    of not-very-good suspension at the front, and it was just
    about able to cope with going down that track at a
    reasonable pace, although it was a jarring experience. I
    would hate to try it on a fully laden touring bike, or
    even a hardtail mountain bike. And this is THE SAME
    national cycle route - NCN7 - which meanders down gentle
    country lanes not five miles from my home. Sustrans are
    crazy. A bike that could cope with the track down from
    Loch Grannoch to the Big Water of Fleet Viaduct is not
    going to be suitable for gentle country lanes, and vice
    versa. Still, it was a glorious, fast, bumpy bash down to
    the viaduct [...]

    I think you've been on the new off-road section of the NCN
    route. Sustrans has also signed a more typical on-road route
    from Glen Trool village through Newton Stewart and Creetown.
    IIRC there was decent enough signing near Clatteringshaws
    Loch that indicated the two different routes, but I doubt
    whether each and every signpost makes that clear.

    In Harry Henniker's book Scotland the National Cycle Network
    (2000) there's a description of both routes on pages 42-47.
    The off-road sections are described: "If you like mountain
    biking this is the way to go" and "This would be easier on a
    mountain bike but it's possible to do it on any bike."

    In May 2003 I cycled part of the track you describe, then
    some of the Old Edinburgh Road and onto the Raiders' Road.
    The NCN was fine for a MTB, the Edinburgh Road was
    challenging and technical (I can write up my notes if
    anyone's interested), and the Raiders' Road going from NW to
    SE was nicely downhill at the end of the tough MTB work.

    It's a fantastic part of the country for cycling!

    Alex

  5. Chillies said:

    I think you've been on the new off-road section of the NCN
    route. Sustrans has also signed a more typical on-road
    route from Glen Trool village through Newton Stewart and
    Creetown. IIRC there was decent enough signing near
    Clatteringshaws Loch that indicated the two different
    routes, but I doubt whether each and every signpost makes
    that clear.

    What is the best way to find out which parts of the NCN
    routes are offroad? We're planning a bike tour starting in
    Aberdeen (or Dyce) around to Inverness and beyond, partly
    following the NCN1 (Aberdeen - JOG)

    The first part between Dyce and Maud seems to be
    following an old railway line, does anybody know how
    offroad that one is?

    Roos

  6. in message <[email hidden]>, Chillies

    (') said:

    In May 2003 I cycled part of the track you describe,
    then some of the Old Edinburgh Road and onto the
    Raiders' Road. The NCN was fine for a MTB, the Edinburgh
    Road was challenging and technical (I can write up my
    notes if anyone's interested), and the Raiders' Road
    going from NW to SE was nicely downhill at the end of
    the tough MTB work.

    Oh good. I was planning to have a go at the Old Edinburgh
    soon. Nice to know it's possible.

    I've also been wondering about challenging the barriers on
    the Big Water of Fleet viaduct under the section of the Land
    Reform Act about not restricting access - because the old
    railway line is at least potentially the best possible route
    to get inexperienced cyclists up into seriously wild country

    Quoted message said:

    It's a fantastic part of the country for cycling!

    Isn't it just?

    --
    [email hidden] (Simon Brooke)
    jasmine.org.uk~simon

    Age equals angst multiplied by the speed of fright squared.
    ;; the Worlock

  7. Simon Brooke said:

    Oh good. I was planning to have a go at the Old Edinburgh
    soon. Nice to know it's possible.

    In July 2003, I did a small section of the Old Edinburgh
    Road on a Rocky Mountain Fusion (Hardtail), from
    Clatteringshaws Loch NX534752 to the Wild Goat Park
    NX492720. There was a leaflet in the Kendoon Youth Hostel
    describing it as a demanding route so I was a little
    disappointed when cycling South-West uphill on a standard
    forest track, but after the disused quarry at Strife Rig
    NX511742 the road descends and deteriorates. I am glad I did
    this North-East to South-West, doing the tricky bit
    downhill. It was double-track although I have no idea how
    long ago the road was used regularly. Bracken, reeds and
    heather grew abundantly in the central strip and obscured
    the two wheel tracks; one had turned into a stony water
    channel, the other into a peaty mess as the Black Strand
    stream poured along the path. I wasn't going fast at all,
    mostly standing on the pedals and tentatively picking my way
    through the vegetation.

    Suddenly, the path gets drier, stony and drops abruptly; I
    pick up speed and a stream appears in front of me at about
    the same time I hear the roar of a waterfall off to my
    right. I'm in the gorge of the Well Burn, whooping with
    delight NX502733.

    After seeing no signing for ages, at NX500731 there's a
    surreal plastic post by the side of this overgrown path with
    a stylised bike and a blue arrow pointing left towards the
    sound of a river. The OS Explorer 319 map shows there are
    stepping stones somewhere to the left (South), or the
    overgrown track continues to a broader river with no
    indication that there's a ford or bridge; I took a left.
    Tentatively, I picked my way through the marsh towards the
    river, jumping from tussock to tussock, and was about to
    turn back to the Old Edinburgh Road when I heard a car go
    past on the far side of the river: at least this route leads
    to a substantial track. It's a slow, tough, wet, frustrating
    100 metres and next time I'll try to reach the track heading
    North around the Black Loch.

    West of the Black Loch, I took a quick look at the Grey
    Mare's Tail waterfall and onto a footpath to the road (from
    NX491725 to NX492720). There's a large spooky sheepfold with
    stones carved into faces and there were hairy caterpillars
    on the path; I can't guarantee the caterpillars will still
    be there. I'd prefer to find a different route at the end
    since it was a bit of a push at the end of a technical ride.

    Parts of this ride were very slow. Apart from the standard
    advice to ensure one's bike is mechanically sound when doing
    this kind of ride, I'd also say to be conservative about
    estimating average speed.

    Quoted message said:


    I've also been wondering about challenging the barriers
    on the Big Water of Fleet viaduct under the section of
    the Land Reform Act about not restricting access -
    because the old railway line is at least potentially the
    best possible route to get inexperienced cyclists up into
    seriously wild country

    I'm not familiar with that part of the Act. The bits of SOAC
    I know apply to land that people already access.

    Good Luck! Alex

  8. Roos Eisma said:

    What is the best way to find out which parts of the NCN
    routes are offroad? We're planning a bike tour starting in
    Aberdeen (or Dyce) around to Inverness and beyond, partly
    following the NCN1 (Aberdeen - JOG)

    I'm afraid I haven't cycled that section so I can't say from
    experience.

    There's route mapping on the Sustrans website [1] which
    colour codes the sections into on-road or traffic-free. It's
    freely available but doesn't have contours so it's a little
    tricky to judge how off-road a section is.

    Their physical maps are better at route planning. At the
    bottom of each page, there's a route profile (at about
    1:250,000 longitudinally) which codes the riding surface and
    shows a gradient.

    HTH, Alex

    [1] <URL:http://www.sustrans.org.uk

  9. in message <[email hidden]>, Chillies

    (') said:
    Simon Brooke said:

    Oh good. I was planning to have a go at the Old Edinburgh
    soon. Nice to know it's possible.

    In July 2003, I did a small section of the Old Edinburgh
    Road on a Rocky Mountain Fusion (Hardtail), from
    Clatteringshaws Loch NX534752 to the Wild Goat Park
    NX492720.

    [snip: excellent ride report]

    Quoted message said:

    Parts of this ride were very slow. Apart from the standard
    advice to ensure one's bike is mechanically sound when
    doing this kind of ride, I'd also say to be conservative
    about estimating average speed.

    Isn't that always the way, when you're exploring a new
    route?

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I've also been wondering about challenging the barriers
    on the Big Water of Fleet viaduct under the section of
    the Land Reform Act about not restricting access -
    because the old railway line is at least potentially the
    best possible route to get inexperienced cyclists up into
    seriously wild country

    I'm not familiar with that part of the Act. The bits of
    SOAC I know apply to land that people already access.

    Well, there are two bits which I think together may be
    relevant: Section 8 para 2, and Section 14 para 1:

    6 Land over which access rights not exercisable

    6 (1) The land in respect of which access rights are not
    exercisable is land-
    (a) to the extent that there is on it-
    (b) a building or other structure or works, plant or
    fixed machinery; [...]

    (2) For the purposes of subsection (1)(a)(i) above, a
    bridge, tunnel, causeway, launching site, groyne,
    weir, boulder weir, embankment of a canalised
    waterway, fence, wall or anything designed to
    facilitate passage is not to be regarded as a
    structure.

    So you do have right of access to a bridge...

    14 Prohibition signs, obstructions, dangerous
    impediments etc.

    2 (1) The owner of land in respect of which access
    rights are exercisable shall not, for the purpose
    or for the main purpose of preventing or
    deterring any person entitled to exercise these
    rights from doing so-
    (a) put up any sign or notice;
    (b) put up any fence or wall, or plant, grow or permit
    to grow any hedge, tree or other vegetation;
    (c) position or leave at large any animal;
    (d) carry out any agricultural or other operation on
    the land; or
    (e) take, or fail to take, any other action.

    And you may not put up a barrier to restrict access.

    It's worth a punt, I think.

    --
    [email hidden] (Simon Brooke)
    jasmine.org.uk~simon Wannabe a Web designer?
    <URL:http://userfriendly.org/cartoons/archives/97dec/199-
    71206.html

  10. Chillies said:

    In July 2003, I did a small section of the Old Edinburgh
    Road on a Rocky Mountain Fusion (Hardtail), from
    Clatteringshaws Loch NX534752 to the Wild Goat Park
    NX492720. There was a leaflet in the Kendoon Youth Hostel
    describing it as a demanding route so I was a little
    disappointed when cycling South-West uphill on a standard
    forest track, but after the disused quarry at Strife Rig
    NX511742 the road descends and deteriorates. I am glad I
    did this North-East to South-West, doing the tricky bit
    downhill. It was double-track although I have no idea how
    long ago the road was used regularly. Bracken, reeds and
    heather grew abundantly in the central strip and obscured
    the two wheel tracks; one had turned into a stony water
    channel, the other into a peaty mess as the Black Strand
    stream poured along the path.

    That place was my downfall a couple of years ago, literally!
    I'd parked at Clatteringshaws Visitor Centre, the rain had
    stopped just in time for my ride. I was on this double
    track, the still water seemed no deeper than rim depth as I
    too travelled slowly and carefully. Front wheel dropped to
    axle depth, I went forward over the bars as practised, kept
    arms out from underneath me, head up to protect my face and
    my chest hit a large stone. Unfortunately for me my carkeys
    were in my chest pocket and metal got squashed between my
    ribs. OUCH, it was a long slow struggle back to the car and
    the painkillers.

    I went back this year in early summer, very dry and very hot
    riding, no problems with the tracks and I even spit in that
    hole as I rode past. Cant help with the NCN routes, I spent
    a full day exploring, just wandering, found a B+B at
    Kirkudbright and rode next day in Dalbeattie Forest. Mike

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