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  1. Well, got a warning that our family has high cholesterol, and then my bro comes back with a slightly
    increased count .. so off I go. Results back in today, and I phone up "The doctor will need to speak
    to you" ... Aarrgghh, is that a twinge?

    Anyway, I get a call back a 'worried' hour later ... and everything is within reasonably good order
    .. slightly up cholesterol, but no real concerns. Best to cut back on my lager intake, methinks.
    Anyway .. point of the story is that my cycling has brought my risk factor down as they put it as
    aggressive exercise (100 miles+ a week). So good news, and better news in a couple of years when I
    take my next test ... 🙂

    (The only bad thing is that the recommended alcohol intake is about an average Friday & Saturday
    night ... what the hell do I do the rest of the time .. <looks for bong under google>😉

    Oh yeah, and I need to lose some weight .. looks like I'll need to stop eating [censored] food as well ...

    Nick

  2. "elyob" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Well, got a warning that our family has high cholesterol, and then my bro comes back with a
    slightly increased count .. so off I go. Results back in today, and I phone up "The doctor will
    need to speak to you" ... Aarrgghh, is that a twinge?

    Anyway, I get a call back a 'worried' hour later ... and everything is within reasonably good
    order .. slightly up cholesterol, but no real concerns. Best to cut back on my lager intake,
    methinks. Anyway .. point


    of

    Quoted message said:

    the story is that my cycling has brought my risk factor down as they put


    it

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    as aggressive exercise (100 miles+ a week). So good news, and better news


    in

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    a couple of years when I take my next test ... 🙂

    (The only bad thing is that the recommended alcohol intake is about an average Friday & Saturday
    night ... what the hell do I do the rest of the time .. <looks for bong under google>😉

    Oh yeah, and I need to lose some weight .. looks like I'll need to stop eating [censored] food as
    well ...

    Nick


    Nick!!, Welcome to 'Getting Old' (tm) ;-) Cheers, Dave....Considerably older than yow (probably ;-)

  3. elyob said:

    Well, got a warning that our family has high cholesterol, and then my bro comes back with a
    slightly increased count .. so off I go. Results back in today, and I phone up "The doctor will
    need to speak to you" ... Aarrgghh, is that a twinge?

    You've doubtless read of the Atkin's diet - but reading Atkin's basis for the diet he proposes is
    quite interesting. Well worth a read if you can lay your hands on it (BTW, strip out the gung ho US
    approach to all things to make it digestible - oops no pun intended). An interesting result of the
    diet is increased HDL and reduced cholesterol levels over all. Consult your GP before adopting any
    particular diet (they all seem relaxed about this for the short and medium but not longer term). Not
    using it myself .... yet. ;-)

  4. In "]news:[email hidden], elyob <[email hidden]> typed:

    Quoted message said:

    (The only bad thing is that the recommended alcohol intake is about an average Friday & Saturday
    night ... what the hell do I do the rest of the time .. <looks for bong under google>😉

    Oh yeah, and I need to lose some weight .. looks like I'll need to stop eating [censored] food as
    well ...

    My cholesterol doctor told me to go home and drink a couple of glasses of red wine every evening.
    Now that is what I call a great doctor. I follow that instruction to the letter. He also told me to
    cut out the beer, so I suppose I got it about half right.

    pk

  5. "elyob" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Well, got a warning that our family has high cholesterol, and then my bro comes back with a
    slightly increased count .. so off I go. Results back in today, and I phone up "The doctor will
    need to speak to you" ... Aarrgghh, is that a twinge?

    Anyway, I get a call back a 'worried' hour later ... and everything is within reasonably good
    order .. slightly up cholesterol, but no real concerns. Best to cut back on my lager intake,
    methinks. Anyway .. point


    of

    Quoted message said:

    the story is that my cycling has brought my risk factor down as they put


    it

    Quoted message said:

    as aggressive exercise (100 miles+ a week). So good news, and better news


    in

    Quoted message said:

    a couple of years when I take my next test ... 🙂

    My count is only 3.3 and I drink a fair bit of real ale in a week, so I don't think that beer is
    the culprit for high cholesterol. Most of it is genetic as your body makes it's own cholesterol in
    the liver. Eating saturated fats does not help either.

    --
    Simon Mason Anlaby East Yorkshire. 53°44'N 0°26'W simonmason.karoo.netsimonmason.karoo.net

  6. "Dave" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

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    Nick!!, Welcome to 'Getting Old' (tm) ;-) Cheers, Dave....Considerably older than yow
    (probably ;-)

    Bah! I'm 'only' 31 ... 😉

  7. "Paul Kelly" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    In "]news:[email hidden], elyob <[email hidden]> typed:

    Quoted message said:

    (The only bad thing is that the recommended alcohol intake is about an average Friday & Saturday
    night ... what the hell do I do the rest of the time .. <looks for bong under google>😉

    Oh yeah, and I need to lose some weight .. looks like I'll need to stop eating [censored] food as
    well ...

    My cholesterol doctor told me to go home and drink a couple of glasses of red wine every evening.
    Now that is what I call a great doctor. I follow that instruction to the letter. He also told me
    to cut out the beer, so I suppose I got it about half right.

    Shopping list .... Red Wine 🙂

  8. "Simon Mason" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    My count is only 3.3 and I drink a fair bit of real ale in a week, so I don't think that beer is
    the culprit for high cholesterol. Most of it is genetic as your body makes it's own cholesterol
    in the liver. Eating saturated fats does not help either.

    Yeah, He reckons I'm in a really low risk of anything bad happening and it's only 6.6 ... Will
    consider it more when choosing what I'm eating, but it ain't gonna kill my 'social life' ... unless
    it gets me first ... 🙂

  9. "Tenex" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    elyob said:

    Well, got a warning that our family has high cholesterol, and then my bro comes back with a
    slightly increased count .. so off I go. Results back in today, and I phone up "The doctor will
    need to speak to you" ... Aarrgghh, is that a twinge?

    You've doubtless read of the Atkin's diet - but reading Atkin's basis for the diet he proposes is
    quite interesting. Well worth a read if you can


    lay

    Quoted message said:

    your hands on it (BTW, strip out the gung ho US approach to all things to make it digestible -
    oops no pun intended). An interesting result of the diet is increased HDL and reduced cholesterol
    levels over all. Consult


    your

    Quoted message said:

    GP before adopting any particular diet (they all seem relaxed about this


    for

    Quoted message said:

    the short and medium but not longer term). Not using it myself .... yet. ;-)

    Just had pate & mayo sandwiches, hold the salad .. (no salad in my fridge) .. not a great start ..
    probably have a huge take-away later ...

  10. elyob said:

    "Simon Mason" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    My count is only 3.3 and I drink a fair bit of real ale in a week, so I don't think that beer is
    the culprit for high cholesterol. Most of it is genetic as your body makes it's own cholesterol
    in the liver. Eating saturated fats does not help either.

    Yeah, He reckons I'm in a really low risk of anything bad happening and it's only 6.6 ... Will
    consider it more when choosing what I'm eating, but it ain't gonna kill my 'social life' ...
    unless it gets me first ... 🙂


    If there's a history of haemorrhagic stroke in your family, then a slightly above normal cholesterol
    may be helpful in reinforcing arterial walls. That's what my doc said about my 5.6 level; my Dad
    died of such a stroke.

    --
    Succorso

  11. "elyob" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "Dave" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

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    Quoted message said:


    Nick!!, Welcome to 'Getting Old' (tm) ;-) Cheers, Dave....Considerably older than yow
    (probably ;-)

    Bah! I'm 'only' 31 ... 😉

    Heh....it's a loooong process. Actually starts about 21 in the male of the species and 35 in the
    female, slowly at first but then..... ;-)

  12. In message <[email hidden]>, elyob <[email hidden]> writes

    Quoted message said:

    Well, got a warning that our family has high cholesterol, and then my bro comes back with a
    slightly increased count .. so off I go. Results back in today, and I phone up "The doctor will
    need to speak to you" ... Aarrgghh, is that a twinge?

    Anyway, I get a call back a 'worried' hour later ... and everything is within reasonably good order
    .. slightly up cholesterol, but no real concerns. Best to cut back on my lager intake, methinks.
    Anyway .. point of the story is that my cycling has brought my risk factor down as they put it as
    aggressive exercise (100 miles+ a week). So good news, and better news in a couple of years when I
    take my next test ... 🙂

    (The only bad thing is that the recommended alcohol intake is about an average Friday & Saturday
    night ... what the hell do I do the rest of the time .. <looks for bong under google>😉

    Oh yeah, and I need to lose some weight .. looks like I'll need to stop eating [censored] food
    as well ...

    Nick

    Cutting back on the alcohol will help you lose weight. Alcoholic drinks have high calorie levels.
    --
    Michael MacClancy

  13. "elyob" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Well, got a warning that our family has high cholesterol, and then my bro comes back with a
    slightly increased count .. so off I go. Results back in today, and I phone up "The doctor will
    need to speak to you" ... Aarrgghh, is that a twinge?


    Things that bring cholesterol down.

    Almost total avoidance of saturated fat (Suicide risk goes up) Simvastatin (or any good
    statin). Benecol.

    Things that make no difference porridge, red wine, beer.

    The truth is at 6.6 you should probably be taking a statin now.

  14. "Frank X" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

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    "elyob" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Well, got a warning that our family has high cholesterol, and then my


    bro

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    Quoted message said:

    comes back with a slightly increased count .. so off I go. Results back


    in

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    Quoted message said:

    today, and I phone up "The doctor will need to speak to you" ...


    Aarrgghh,

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    Quoted message said:

    is that a twinge?


    Things that bring cholesterol down.

    Best solution is to change your genes!

    pk

  15. Frank X said:

    "elyob" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Well, got a warning that our family has high cholesterol, and then my bro comes back with a
    slightly increased count .. so off I go. Results back in today, and I phone up "The doctor will
    need to speak to you" ... Aarrgghh, is that a twinge?


    Things that bring cholesterol down.

    Almost total avoidance of saturated fat (Suicide risk goes up) Simvastatin (or any good statin).
    Benecol.

    Things that make no difference porridge, red wine, beer.

    The truth is at 6.6 you should probably be taking a statin now.

    Given his age and diet, 6.6 is easily reducible via exercise and diet. There's no general "you
    should be taking statins now" because of all the co-factors that are unique to the individual.

    I have a friend who measured 10.3 and through all the ECGs etc had no diminution in heart function
    or family history. Quantity dieting didn't happen (but his level fell to 8 ish) so he eventually
    took the statins after a decade of being nagged by his doctor. He got really fit in the period and
    the ECG showed it but they still pushed the statins.

    There was a big news thing on statins 2-3 months ago. Rather like the the idea that taking 1/2 an
    aspirin a day is good for almost everyone, statins are now so well established that specialists
    reckon that, along the aspirin principle, everyone should take them and would benefit.

    Bringing the much contested Atkins diet in may be relevant here as it boosts HDL levels and reduces
    overall cholesterol levels. Lots of bacon and eggs and lower cholesterol, there's a thought. ;-)

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