Heart Aging

TonishaWallace said:

I'm 50 and feel that my heart and whole body is aging
fast. I've been working on losing weight (slowly dropped
down from 260 to 210 pounds) and I walk 2 miles a day.

My question: what supplements or meds or herbs or diet
should I use to strengthen my heart and blood vessels?

I've only good things said about "Padma 23", a mix of 23
herbs, spices, etc. concocted by Tibetan doctors, produced
as an over the counter tablet for 100 years first in Russia
and currently in Switzerland. It's available over the
counter in Switzerland and in the USA.

Supposedly it does wonders in re-vascularisation bypassing
clogged arteries; by taste it seems one of the ingredients
is cinnamon which recently has been found to counter
excessive cholesterol.

TonishaWallace said:

I'm 50 and feel that my heart and whole body is
aging fast.

What symptoms are you having?

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I've been working on losing weight (slowly dropped down
from 260 to 210 pounds) and I walk 2 miles a day.

(excellent :-)

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My question: what supplements or meds or herbs or diet
should I use to strengthen my heart and blood vessels?

That would depend on your complete medical history and
examination. I would suggest you inform your doctor about
your symptoms and s/he should be able to take it from there
to advise you on your question(s).

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Quoted message said:

I'm 50 and feel that my heart and whole body is aging
fast. I've been

working

Quoted message said:

on losing weight (slowly dropped down from 260 to 210
pounds) and I walk 2 miles a day.

My question: what supplements or meds or herbs or diet
should I use to strengthen my heart and blood vessels?

I agree with Dr. Chung's advice that you should
definitely see a Dr. If it is a heart problem, one would
even have to know the particular kind to tell what the
treatment should be.

You might want to read one of Dr. Weil's books or visit his
web site for information.

drweil.comdrw cda.htmlOpen ↗

Warning: They will try to sell you stuff. His advice is
usually fairly good, IMO, but he has this whole marketing
apparatus around him.

Bill

On 14 May 2004 08:23:52 GMT, [email hidden]

(TonishaWallace) said:

I'm 50 and feel that my heart and whole body is aging fast.
I've been working on losing weight (slowly dropped down
from 260 to 210 pounds) and I walk 2 miles a day.

My question: what supplements or meds or herbs or diet
should I use to strengthen my heart and blood vessels?

I would love to walk 2 miles a day. You are doing well.
Have you already cut down on saturated fats and increased
your fruit and veg intake? You could take Omega 3 fatty
acid, drink a glass of good red wine each day. Eat a small
tin of sardines every week. There is so much information
out there about supplements to help the heart. I can't
remember them all but you could do a Google search. My
heart disease was caused by a childhood infection but my
coronary arteries were fine so I must have been doing
something right in that respect,
i.e. diet and exercise. (All my three brothers had heart
disease; all drinkers and smokers). Good luck, Diana

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Quoted message said:

I'm 50 and feel that my heart and whole body is aging
fast. I've been

working

Quoted message said:

on losing weight (slowly dropped down from 260 to 210
pounds) and I walk 2 miles a day.

My question: what supplements or meds or herbs or diet
should I use to strengthen my heart and blood vessels?

I agree with Dr. Chung's advice that you should
definitely see a Dr. If it is a heart problem, one would
even have to know the particular kind to tell what the
treatment should be.

You might want to read one of Dr. Weil's books or visit
his web site for information.

drweil.comdrw cda.htmlOpen ↗

Warning: They will try to sell you stuff. His advice is
usually fairly good, IMO, but he has this whole marketing
apparatus around him.

Bill

Would suggest you be wary of those who would sell you
something. They tend to worship money.

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Andrew

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I would love to walk 2 miles a day.

Why can't you?
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Eat less, Walk fast, Live long.

On Sat, 15 May 2004 03:53:52 -0400, Mosaic M_uns <[email hidden]>

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On Fri, 14 May 2004 18:05:40 GMT, [email hidden]

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I would love to walk 2 miles a day.

Why can't you?
antwrp.gsfc.nasa.govap960222.htmlOpen ↗ Lift well,
Eat less, Walk fast, Live long.

Valvular heart disease. Got a new St Jude bi-leaflet MV Nov
02 but recently was told that it leaks. Aortic and tri-
cuspid both have leaks. Have paroxysmal A.fib and flutter
and 2:1 heart block. Now have a dual chamber pacemaker. Was
unable to complete cardiac rehabilitation. Widespread OA,
especially spine. Debilitated by three major surgeries in a
15 month period. Colon cancer surgery, three months later
stoma reversal, 11 months later MV surgery. I can't walk 2
miles a day! ... but I am cheerful and optimistic. Diana

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Mosaic M_uns said:

Quoted message said:

I would love to walk 2 miles a day.

Why can't you?
antwrp.gsfc.nasa.govap960222.htmlOpen ↗ Lift well,
Eat less, Walk fast, Live long.

Valvular heart disease. Got a new St Jude bi-leaflet MV
Nov 02 but recently was told that it leaks. Aortic and
tri-cuspid both have leaks. Have paroxysmal A.fib and
flutter and 2:1 heart block. Now have a dual chamber
pacemaker. Was unable to complete cardiac rehabilitation.
Widespread OA, especially spine. Debilitated by three
major surgeries in a 15 month period. Colon cancer
surgery, three months later stoma reversal, 11 months
later MV surgery. I can't walk 2 miles a day! ... but I
am cheerful and optimistic. Diana

The management of your coumadin anticoagulation was probably
stressful for your physicians.

You remain in my prayers to God in Christ's name.

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Andrew

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The management of your coumadin anticoagulation was
probably stressful for your physicians.

Do you think so? I thought all that would be routine for
them. Incidentally, my INR had been jumping around a bit
until in early April it settled down and I was given an
appointment for five weeks hence. That was last Monday and
it was too high again at 5.8. My heart sank at the thought
of more hospital appointments. The only thing I could think
of was that my GP had doubled my diuretic 2 wks before.
Also, I had just started taking Gingko Biloba (3 doses).
Upshot is, the Gingko is out and I'll be back to the
hospital again each week until the INR settles. My worst
worry is that, somewhere along the line, they might want to
explant this prosthetic valve. Diana

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The management of your coumadin anticoagulation was
probably stressful for your physicians.

Do you think so? I thought all that would be routine for
them. Incidentally, my INR had been jumping around a bit
until in early April it settled down and I was given an
appointment for five weeks hence. That was last Monday and
it was too high again at 5.8. My heart sank at the thought
of more hospital appointments. The only thing I could
think of was that my GP had doubled my diuretic 2 wks
before. Also, I had just started taking Gingko Biloba (3
doses). Upshot is, the Gingko is out and I'll be back to
the hospital again each week until the INR settles. My
worst worry is that, somewhere along the line, they might
want to explant this prosthetic valve.

Ginko is an anticoagulant. Surely you had researched it
thoroughly before taking it? Did you tell your physicians
you started taking it? Herbal medicines are still drugs.
Anything you take with an eye towards producing certain
beneficial physiological and/or psychological results is a
drug. That means the potential for undesirable side effects
also exists.

Carmen

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The management of your coumadin anticoagulation was
probably stressful for your physicians.

Do you think so? I thought all that would be routine for
them. Incidentally, my INR had been jumping around a bit
until in early April it settled down and I was given an
appointment for five weeks hence. That was last Monday and
it was too high again at 5.8. My heart sank at the thought
of more hospital appointments. The only thing I could
think of was that my GP had doubled my diuretic 2 wks
before. Also, I had just started taking Gingko Biloba (3
doses). Upshot is, the Gingko is out and I'll be back to
the hospital again each week until the INR settles. My
worst worry is that, somewhere along the line, they might
want to explant this prosthetic valve. Diana

Were you taking Ginko and coumadin at the same time? I'm not
sure you are supposed to do that.

Bill

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The management of your coumadin anticoagulation was
probably stressful for your physicians.

Do you think so?

A prosthetic metal valve in the mitral position is
especially vulnerable to the formation of blood clots when
warfarin is held. And, you have had a number of surgical
procedures where the warfarin was held.

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I thought all that would be routine for them.

Routinely stressful :-)

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Incidentally, my INR had been jumping around a bit until
in early April it settled down and I was given an
appointment for five weeks hence. That was last Monday
and it was too high again at 5.8. My heart sank at the
thought of more hospital appointments. The only thing I
could think of was that my GP had doubled my diuretic 2
wks before. Also, I had just started taking Gingko Biloba
(3 doses).

I believe that can increase the INR.

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Upshot is, the Gingko is out and I'll be back to the
hospital again each week until the INR settles. My worst
worry is that, somewhere along the line, they might want
to explant this prosthetic valve. Diana

Yours (St. Jude's) should be a good valve. Have they given
you an explanation for why it is leaking more than the usual
small amount?

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You could take Omega 3 fatty acid, drink a glass of good red
wine each day. Eat a small tin of sardines every week. There
is so much information out there about supplements to help
the heart. Diana>>

Thanks for the advice and the heartfelt reassurance.

TonishaWallace said:

You could take Omega 3 fatty acid, drink a glass of good
red wine each day. Eat a small tin of sardines every
week. There is so much information out there about
supplements to help the heart. Diana>>

Thanks for the advice and the heartfelt reassurance.

There are those who would be harmed by that "daily glass of
red wine" advice.

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On Sun, 16 May 2004 18:51:46 GMT, "Carmen" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

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The management of your coumadin anticoagulation was
probably stressful for your physicians.

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Ginko is an anticoagulant. Surely you had researched it
thoroughly before taking it? Did you tell your physicians
you started taking it? Herbal medicines are still drugs.
Anything you take with an eye towards producing certain
beneficial physiological and/or psychological results is a
drug. That means the potential for undesirable side effects
also exists.

Carmen

Thank you Carmen. You are right of course, I should have
researched it. Its quite unlike me not to do that. I wanted
for its suggested memory improving properties. I think I
must have forgotten to research it. Diana

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Were you taking Ginko and coumadin at the same time? I'm
not sure you are supposed to do that.

Bill

Yes, but only for three days. My INR will return to normal
soon. Today it is 2.4. If it is between 3-4 next week I
won't have to go to the clinic as often. Diana

MD/PhD said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

The management of your coumadin anticoagulation was
probably stressful for your physicians.

Do you think so?

A prosthetic metal valve in the mitral position is
especially vulnerable to the formation of blood clots when
warfarin is held. And, you have had a number of surgical
procedures where the warfarin was held.

Before each surgical procedure I was admitted to
hospital early ( about five days) so that I could be
switched to Heparin.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Yours (St. Jude's) should be a good valve. Have they given
you an explanation for why it is leaking more than the
usual small amount?

I am sure it is a good valve and it was implanted in a
London heart hospital, one of the best in Europe. I do not
know that it is leaking more than a small amount, but the
consultant I saw last (in Manchester) commented on it as
soon as he listened to my heart. He wanted an echo to be
done that day. Maybe it is minor but when I asked about that
he did not respond. My GP has received a letter about the
results and it contains a comment about having a TOE done. .
I see the consultant again on 30th June. These long waiting
times are common in our UK NHS.

Diana

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On Sun, 16 May 2004 17:43:57 -0400, "Dr. Andrew B. Chung,

MD/PhD said:

Quoted message said:

>The management of your coumadin anticoagulation was
>probably stressful for your physicians.
>
Do you think so?

A prosthetic metal valve in the mitral position is
especially vulnerable to the formation of blood clots
when warfarin is held. And, you have had a number of
surgical procedures where the warfarin was held.

Before each surgical procedure I was admitted to hospital
early ( about five days) so that I could be switched to
Heparin.

That probably placed a strain on the UK NHS :-)

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Yours (St. Jude's) should be a good valve. Have they
given you an explanation for why it is leaking more than
the usual small amount?

I am sure it is a good valve and it was implanted in a
London heart hospital, one of the best in Europe. I do not
know that it is leaking more than a small amount, but the
consultant I saw last (in Manchester) commented on it as
soon as he listened to my heart. He wanted an echo to be
done that day. Maybe it is minor but when I asked about
that he did not respond. My GP has received a letter about
the results and it contains a comment about having a TOE
done. . I see the consultant again on 30th June. These
long waiting times are common in our UK NHS.

Diana

Sorry that you have to put up with the long waits.

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On Sun, 16 May 2004 17:43:57 -0400, "Dr. Andrew B.

Chung said:

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> >The management of your coumadin anticoagulation was
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> Do you think so?

A prosthetic metal valve in the mitral position is
especially vulnerable to the formation of blood clots
when warfarin is held. And, you have had a number of
surgical procedures where the warfarin was held.

Before each surgical procedure I was admitted to
hospital early ( about five days) so that I could be
switched to Heparin.

That probably placed a strain on the UK NHS :-)

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Yours (St. Jude's) should be a good valve. Have they
given you an explanation for why it is leaking more
than the usual small amount?

I am sure it is a good valve and it was implanted in a
London heart hospital, one of the best in Europe. I do
not know that it is leaking more than a small amount,
but the consultant I saw last (in Manchester) commented
on it as soon as he listened to my heart. He wanted an
echo to be done that day. Maybe it is minor but when I
asked about that he did not respond. My GP has received
a letter about the results and it contains a comment
about having a TOE done. . I see the consultant again
on 30th June. These long waiting times are common in
our UK NHS.

Diana

Sorry that you have to put up with the long waits.

It's in an interesting phenomenon. When a service becomes
very inexpensive wait times rise as a method to control the
load on the fixed resource - number of available Dr.
appointments. I think you see the same thing in the US with
veterans hospitals. On the other hand, you don't want truly
needy people dropping out because they can not pay.

Bill

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