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  1. While buying some additional non-cycling waterproofs[1] from
    http://www.hivis.net I noticed they have a polo shirt complete with Class 2
    reflective bits. Some may prefer such a garment to the hi-vis vests in the
    forthcoming WarmRain.

    Postage is quite expensive though (6.45 for my order of full jacket +
    trousers and prices exclude VAT).

    Regards,

    [1] I do a fair bit of volunteer conservation work, which involves ratting
    around in thorny undergrowth. To avoid ruining my decent waterproofs, I've
    bought a full set of contractor's waterproofs which are at least cheap and
    durable, albeit visible from orbit.

  2. David Nutter said:

    While buying some additional non-cycling waterproofs[1] from
    http://www.hivis.net I noticed they have a polo shirt complete with Class 2
    reflective bits. Some may prefer such a garment to the hi-vis vests in the
    forthcoming WarmRain.

    Postage is quite expensive though (6.45 for my order of full jacket +
    trousers and prices exclude VAT).

    Regards,

    [1] I do a fair bit of volunteer conservation work, which involves ratting
    around in thorny undergrowth. To avoid ruining my decent waterproofs, I've
    bought a full set of contractor's waterproofs which are at least cheap and
    durable, albeit visible from orbit.

    I've bought 24 children's tabards from them. I'm in dispute over the
    VAT. Children's clothing should be zero rated, and they charge VAT.

    The tabards are excellent - good value at £3.49 even with the VAT
    added on they are only £4.10.

  3. Tilly said:

    I've bought 24 children's tabards from them. I'm in dispute over the
    VAT. Children's clothing should be zero rated, and they charge VAT.

    That sounds like an interesting dispute. Could you keep us updated?

    cheers
    ~PB

  4. Pete Biggs said:
    Tilly said:

    I've bought 24 children's tabards from them. I'm in dispute over the
    VAT. Children's clothing should be zero rated, and they charge VAT.

    That sounds like an interesting dispute. Could you keep us updated?

    cheers
    ~PB

    Interesting? Sorry? A dispute over VAT? Over £6.10?

    🙂

  5. Not Responding said:
    Pete Biggs said:
    Tilly said:

    I've bought 24 children's tabards from them. I'm in dispute over the
    VAT. Children's clothing should be zero rated, and they charge VAT.

    That sounds like an interesting dispute. Could you keep us updated?

    cheers
    ~PB

    Interesting? Sorry? A dispute over VAT? Over £6.10?

    🙂

    Some of us find *principled* disputes interesting - and will even
    raise complaints over a penny if it interests us sufficiently. ;-)

  6. Tilly said:


    Some of us find *principled* disputes interesting - and will even
    raise complaints over a penny if it interests us sufficiently. ;-)

    On which topic, I've just received my refund cheque (just under 7
    pounds) from teh idiot [censored] moron pillocks at Demon.

    Still no apology for threatening me with a third party credit
    collection agency and damage to my creditrating when actually they had
    taken more money from me than they were entitled to, not less.
    However, I'm losing interest now (and Direct Line Insurance are
    currently providing rather more entertainment - they told me their
    verbal statements superseded their written ones).

    regards, Ian SMith
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  7. Ian Smith said:

    However, I'm losing interest now (and Direct Line Insurance
    are currently providing rather more entertainment - they told
    me their verbal statements superseded their written ones).

    Did you ask them to put that in writing?

    --
    Dave...

  8. dkahn400 said:
    Ian Smith said:

    However, I'm losing interest now (and Direct Line Insurance
    are currently providing rather more entertainment - they told
    me their verbal statements superseded their written ones).

    Did you ask them to put that in writing?

    No, I asked them to read out the entire policy to me, so I knew what I
    was still insured for, and all teh restrictions. The woman on teh
    phone audibly goggled, and transferred me to a supervisor.

    regards, Ian SMith
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  9. Ian Smith said:

    On 12 May 2005 09:02:12 -0700, dkahn400 <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:
    Ian Smith said:

    However, I'm losing interest now (and Direct Line Insurance
    are currently providing rather more entertainment - they told
    me their verbal statements superseded their written ones).

    Did you ask them to put that in writing?

    No, I asked them to read out the entire policy to me, so I
    knew what I was still insured for, and all teh restrictions.
    The woman on teh phone audibly goggled, and transferred me to
    a supervisor.

    regards, Ian SMith

    That's a good one. At my work we have a saying "If it's not written down
    it's a lie"
    --
    Mark

    1x1 wheel, 3x2 wheels & 1x3 wheels.

  10. the.Mark said:
    Ian Smith said:

    On 12 May 2005 09:02:12 -0700, dkahn400 <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    Ian Smith wrote:

    > However, I'm losing interest now (and Direct Line Insurance
    > are currently providing rather more entertainment - they told
    > me their verbal statements superseded their written ones).

    Did you ask them to put that in writing?

    No, I asked them to read out the entire policy to me, so I
    knew what I was still insured for, and all teh restrictions.
    The woman on teh phone audibly goggled, and transferred me to
    a supervisor.

    regards, Ian SMith

    That's a good one. At my work we have a saying "If it's not written down
    it's a lie"

    The late great Sam Goldwyn is ALLEGED to have stated
    "A verbal contract isn't worth the paper it is written on" :-)

    K.

  11. Ian Smith said:
    Tilly said:


    Some of us find *principled* disputes interesting - and will even
    raise complaints over a penny if it interests us sufficiently. ;-)

    On which topic, I've just received my refund cheque (just under 7
    pounds) from teh idiot [censored] moron pillocks at Demon.

    Still no apology for threatening me with a third party credit
    collection agency and damage to my creditrating when actually they had
    taken more money from me than they were entitled to, not less.
    However, I'm losing interest now (and Direct Line Insurance are
    currently providing rather more entertainment - they told me their
    verbal statements superseded their written ones).

    regards, Ian SMith

    OOH - Don't get me started on Demon Internet. That's the company that
    didn't take the monthly charges they were authorised to from my credit
    card for four years for an dialup account I WAS using while
    simultaneously charging the same credit card an identical sum for
    another dialup account they were told to close in 1999. As they don't
    identify what they are charging for in the credit card transactions or
    send you a yearly statement of account none of this showed up until
    after the great Demon email disaster (2 weeks - no mail) when the need
    for an ISP that could actually deliver email overrode the loyalty I had
    showed to Demon for 8 years.

    Demon then asked for the "unpaid" fees and also discovered that they had
    also "forgotten" to charge me for an ADSL line in 2001. I paid the
    latter - as I'd actually used it but refused the pay the former as I'd
    never been asked to pay for it and had paid an identical sum for
    something I didn't want and hadn't used. To resolve this minor problem
    Demon then generated a pile of paper invoices (one for each month
    unpaid) sent each of them to me by first class post with each in a
    separate A4 envelope and then sent duplicates of the lot as "late
    payment reminders" a few days later. As I wasn't paying I was passed
    to, and got a letter from, a bunch called First Credit Ltd. I have
    explained to both them and Demon in very simple terms the reasons why I
    don't believe I owe any money, send another copy of the same letter each
    time another computer-generated demand for money arrives from one or
    other of them and am still waiting to be summonsed to appear in the
    County Court, where I will be delighted to discuss this matter with
    them :-)

    Julesh

  12. Julesh said:

    As I wasn't paying I was passed
    to, and got a letter from, a bunch called First Credit Ltd.

    Ooh, you too. I got a letter from them re demon 18 months ago.
    Haven't heard anything more since replying to it, pointing out
    the obvious and Cc: Trading Standards. I guess they get used
    to that from demon ex-customers.

    --
    Nick Kew

  13. Pete Biggs said:
    Tilly said:

    I've bought 24 children's tabards from them. I'm in dispute over the
    VAT. Children's clothing should be zero rated, and they charge VAT.

    That sounds like an interesting dispute. Could you keep us updated?

    I checked with today with admin. The company had made an error in
    charging VAT and re-issued the invoice. I've put in an order for a
    further 20 children's tabards.

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