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  1. In 1991 Leigh Van Valen and V.C. Maiorana published a paper [Evolutionary Theory
    10: 71-74] arguing that the human cancer cell known as the Hela cell, having bred
    true in labs all over the world for nearly half a century, deserved to be named a
    new species and proposed the name Helacyton gartleri.

    So I was wondering what sort of reception this argument has received in the
    years since. Has it been accepted? Rejected? Or does it simply languish as a
    taxonomic paradox?

    And has the Hela cell itself mutated into sub species or varieties?

  2. John Ings said:

    In 1991 Leigh Van Valen and V.C. Maiorana published a
    paper [Evolutionary Theory 10: 71-74] arguing that the
    human cancer cell known as the Hela cell, having bred true
    in labs all over the world for nearly half a century,
    deserved to be named a new species and proposed the name
    Helacyton gartleri.

    So I was wondering what sort of reception this argument
    has received in the years since. Has it been accepted?
    Rejected? Or does it simply languish as a taxonomic
    paradox?

    And has the Hela cell itself mutated into sub species or
    varieties?

    It could not have been half a century - Henrietta Lacks,
    whose cells these were, was biopsied in the 60s.

    I like HeLa, because by phylogenetic rules of some extreme
    Hennigians, it means that we should drop the name _Homo
    sapiens_ as extinct, and rename the branch that did not
    become unicellular... [censored] acanceri?
    --
    John Wilkins [email hidden]
    wilkins.id.auwilkins.id.au "Men mark it when they hit, but do
    not mark it when they miss"
    - Francis
    Bacon

  3. In article <[email hidden]>,

    John Ings said:

    In 1991 Leigh Van Valen and V.C. Maiorana published a paper
    [Evolutionary Theory 10: 71-74] arguing that the human
    cancer cell known as the Hela cell, having bred true in
    labs all over the world for nearly half a century, deserved
    to be named a new species and proposed the name Helacyton
    gartleri.

    I hadn't been aware of this. The species designation has not
    been taken up by others.

    What amuses me is that Stan Gartler is a member of my
    department, and I talked with him just the other day. I had
    no idea his name had been proposed for the species name for
    HeLa cells! Stan was the person who found that many
    supposedly distinct cell lines from various labs had all
    been contaminated and taken over by HeLa cells.

    --
    Joe Felsenstein [email hidden]
    Department of Genome Sciences and Department of
    Biology, University of Washington, Box 357730, Seattle,
    WA 98195-7730 USA

  4. On Sat, 6 Mar 2004 23:03:04 +0000 (UTC), [email hidden] (John

    Wilkins) said:

    t could not have been half a century - Henrietta Lacks,
    whose cells these were, was biopsied in the 60s.

    9 Feb 1951

    See: jhu.edu01.html

  5. On Sat, 6 Mar 2004 23:03:04 +0000 (UTC),

    John Wilkins said:
    John Ings said:

    In 1991 Leigh Van Valen and V.C. Maiorana published a
    paper [Evolutionary Theory 10: 71-74] arguing that the
    human cancer cell known as the Hela cell, having bred
    true in labs all over the world for nearly half a
    century, deserved to be named a new species and proposed
    the name Helacyton gartleri.

    So I was wondering what sort of reception this argument
    has received in the years since. Has it been accepted?
    Rejected? Or does it simply languish as a taxonomic
    paradox?

    And has the Hela cell itself mutated into sub species or
    varieties?

    It could not have been half a century - Henrietta Lacks,
    whose cells these were, was biopsied in the 60s.

    February 1, 1951.

    Larry (who doesn't really remember 1951) Moran

  6. In article <[email hidden]>,

    (Larry Moran) said:
    John Wilkins said:
    John Ings said:

    In 1991 Leigh Van Valen and V.C. Maiorana published a
    paper [Evolutionary Theory 10: 71-74] arguing that the
    human cancer cell known as the Hela cell, having bred
    true in labs all over the world for nearly half a
    century, deserved to be named a new species and
    proposed the name Helacyton gartleri.

    So I was wondering what sort of reception this argument
    has received in the years since. Has it been accepted?
    Rejected? Or does it simply languish as a taxonomic
    paradox?

    And has the Hela cell itself mutated into sub species
    or varieties?

    It could not have been half a century - Henrietta Lacks,
    whose cells these were, was biopsied in the 60s.

    February 1, 1951.


    Thanks for the correction.

    Quoted message said:

    Larry (who doesn't really remember 1951) Moran


    I don't remember 1991...

    --
    John Wilkins [email hidden] www.wilkins.id.au It is
    not enough to succeed. Friends must be seen to have failed.
    Truman Capote

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