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  1. I read in an earlier google post :

    "#2. Use nutrition labels to estimate the trans fat content in a product. Add up the saturated,
    monounsaturated and polyunsaturated fat. If they are less than the "total fat" number, the remainder
    is likely trans fat, says Moore."

    Looking at hellmans mayonnaise (non-diet) In 100g Fat - 79.1g of which Saturates 5.6g of which
    polyunsaturates 22.0g of which Omega 3 fatty acids 7.3g

    Clearly there are other fats not listed. As 5.6+22+7.3 don't make 79.1

    What fats are not listed? and why? And could it be trans fats? If you say it doesn't contain trans
    fats, then how can you be sure? I have heard that some other mayos do contain trans fats.

    thanks.

  2. Look at the ingredients list rather than the nutritional information. If you see any hydrogenated or
    partially-hydrogenated oils listed, those are trans fats.

    Al. "David Taylor" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    I read in an earlier google post :

    "#2. Use nutrition labels to estimate the trans fat content in a product. Add up the saturated,
    monounsaturated and polyunsaturated fat. If they are less than the "total fat" number, the
    remainder is likely trans fat, says Moore."

    Looking at hellmans mayonnaise (non-diet) In 100g Fat - 79.1g of which Saturates 5.6g of which
    polyunsaturates 22.0g of which Omega 3 fatty acids 7.3g

    Clearly there are other fats not listed. As 5.6+22+7.3 don't make 79.1

    What fats are not listed? and why? And could it be trans fats? If you say it doesn't contain trans
    fats, then how can you be sure? I have heard that some other mayos do contain trans fats.

    thanks.

  3. As for me, I eat so little mayo that I don't worry about the type of fat in
    it. 🙂

    Cat

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    Quoted message said:

    I read in an earlier google post :

    "#2. Use nutrition labels to estimate the trans fat content in a product. Add up the saturated,
    monounsaturated and polyunsaturated fat. If they are less than the "total fat" number, the
    remainder is likely trans fat, says Moore."

    Looking at hellmans mayonnaise (non-diet) In 100g Fat - 79.1g of which Saturates 5.6g of which
    polyunsaturates 22.0g of which Omega 3 fatty acids 7.3g

    Clearly there are other fats not listed. As 5.6+22+7.3 don't make 79.1

    What fats are not listed? and why? And could it be trans fats? If you say it doesn't contain trans
    fats, then how can you be sure? I have heard that some other mayos do contain trans fats.

    thanks.

  4. Quoted message said:

    Look at the ingredients list rather than the nutritional information. If you see any hydrogenated
    or partially-hydrogenated oils listed, those are trans fats.

    yes, that thought had crossed my mind. Of course I checked that. It didn't say there were any
    hydrogenated/partially hydrogenated oils. So looking further, I checked the nutrition, which didn't
    add up. It passes the no hydrogenated oil listed test, but doesn't pass the fat adding up test. And
    that is still a problem.

    Quoted message said:

    "David Taylor" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I read in an earlier google post :

    "#2. Use nutrition labels to estimate the trans fat content in a product. Add up the saturated,
    monounsaturated and polyunsaturated fat. If they are less than the "total fat" number, the
    remainder is likely trans fat, says Moore."

    Looking at hellmans mayonnaise (non-diet) In 100g Fat - 79.1g of which Saturates 5.6g of which
    polyunsaturates 22.0g of which Omega 3 fatty acids 7.3g

    Clearly there are other fats not listed. As 5.6+22+7.3 don't make 79.1

    What fats are not listed? and why? And could it be trans fats? If you say it doesn't contain
    trans fats, then how can you be sure? I have heard that some other mayos do contain trans fats.

    thanks.

  5. David Taylor schrieb:

    Quoted message said:


    I read in an earlier google post :

    "#2. Use nutrition labels to estimate the trans fat content in a product. Add up the saturated,
    monounsaturated and polyunsaturated fat. If they are less than the "total fat" number, the
    remainder is likely trans fat, says Moore."

    Looking at hellmans mayonnaise (non-diet) In 100g Fat - 79.1g of which Saturates 5.6g of which
    polyunsaturates 22.0g of which Omega 3 fatty acids 7.3g

    Clearly there are other fats not listed. As 5.6+22+7.3 don't make 79.1

    The Omega 3 fatty acids are also polyunsaturates, so you can't add them if you have already
    added those.

    Quoted message said:

    What fats are not listed? and why? And could it be trans fats? If you say it doesn't contain trans
    fats, then how can you be sure? I have heard that some other mayos do contain trans fats.

    thanks.

    The monounsaturated fats are not listed and will probably account for most if not all of what is
    missing to the 79.1 g.

    Thorsten

    --
    "Nothing in biology makes sense, except in the light of evolution"

    (Theodosius Dobzhansky)

  6. Have you considered making your own mayonnaise? All it is is oil, egg,
    vinegar and/or lemon juice. After all, if you make your own, you know
    what is in it :-)

    Here's a basic recipe: 1 cup oil 1 egg 1 tablespoon of vinegar or lemon juice salt, pepper, paprika
    as desired

    David Taylor said:

    I read in an earlier google post :

    "#2. Use nutrition labels to estimate the trans fat content in a product. Add up the saturated,
    monounsaturated and polyunsaturated fat. If they are less than the "total fat" number, the
    remainder is likely trans fat, says Moore."

    Looking at hellmans mayonnaise (non-diet) In 100g Fat - 79.1g of which Saturates 5.6g of which
    polyunsaturates 22.0g of which Omega 3 fatty acids 7.3g

    Clearly there are other fats not listed. As 5.6+22+7.3 don't make 79.1

    What fats are not listed? and why? And could it be trans fats? If you say it doesn't contain trans
    fats, then how can you be sure? I have heard that some other mayos do contain trans fats.

    thanks.

    --
    jmk in NC

  7. jmk said:

    Have you considered making your own mayonnaise? All it is is oil, egg, vinegar and/or lemon juice.
    After all, if you make your own, you know what is in it :-)

    Here's a basic recipe: 1 cup oil 1 egg 1 tablespoon of vinegar or lemon juice salt, pepper,
    paprika as desired

    Here is a link to some additional recipes: homecooking.about.comblcon64.htm

    Quoted message said:
    David Taylor said:

    I read in an earlier google post :

    "#2. Use nutrition labels to estimate the trans fat content in a product. Add up the saturated,
    monounsaturated and polyunsaturated fat. If they are less than the "total fat" number, the
    remainder is likely trans fat, says Moore."

    Looking at hellmans mayonnaise (non-diet) In 100g Fat - 79.1g of which Saturates 5.6g of which
    polyunsaturates 22.0g of which Omega 3 fatty acids 7.3g

    Clearly there are other fats not listed. As 5.6+22+7.3 don't make 79.1

    What fats are not listed? and why? And could it be trans fats? If you say it doesn't contain
    trans fats, then how can you be sure? I have heard that some other mayos do contain trans fats.

    thanks.

    --
    jmk in NC

  8. jmk at said:
    jmk said:

    Have you considered making your own mayonnaise? All it is is oil, egg, vinegar and/or lemon
    juice. After all, if you make your own, you know what is in it :-)

    Here's a basic recipe: 1 cup oil 1 egg 1 tablespoon of vinegar or lemon juice salt, pepper,
    paprika as desired

    Here is a link to some additional recipes:
    homecooking.about.comblcon64.htm

    Can one use something besides egg yolks to lower the cholesterol?

    What are the best options to avoid salmonella?

  9. Kev said:
    jmk at said:


    jmk said:

    Have you considered making your own mayonnaise? All it is is oil, egg, vinegar and/or lemon
    juice. After all, if you make your own, you know what is in it :-)

    Here's a basic recipe: 1 cup oil 1 egg 1 tablespoon of vinegar or lemon juice salt, pepper,
    paprika as desired

    Here is a link to some additional recipes:
    homecooking.about.comblcon64.htm

    Can one use something besides egg yolks to lower the cholesterol?

    Sorry but no. After all, it's maynnaise :-/ My only suggestion is to use it in moderation. My
    thought was that you can both reduce the transfats to zero and add some good fats via using an
    appropriate oil (canola, etc.) if you make it yourself.

    Quoted message said:

    What are the best options to avoid salmonella?

    You could use a pasturized(in shell) egg or a pasturized egg substitute.
    Also, wash the egg shell (and your hands) before cracking the egg.

    Are you sensitive to dietary cholesterol? About 25% of people are (but about 75% are not). In other
    words, for most people, saturated fat intake is more closely related to blood serum cholesterol
    levels so moderate egg consumption should not be a problem -- I've read both one egg a day or four
    eggs per week as suggestions. Also, this is a good article on eggs that you might find interesting:

    Craking the Case eatingwell.comcracking case.pdf

    --
    jmk in NC

  10. In article said:
    jmk at said:
    jmk said:

    Have you considered making your own mayonnaise? All it is is oil, egg, vinegar and/or lemon
    juice. After all, if you make your own, you know what is in it :-)

    Here's a basic recipe: 1 cup oil 1 egg 1 tablespoon of vinegar or lemon juice salt, pepper,
    paprika as desired

    Here is a link to some additional recipes:
    homecooking.about.comblcon64.htm

    Can one use something besides egg yolks to lower the cholesterol?

    What are the best options to avoid salmonella?

    To lower cholesterol, lose weight and start exercising substantially. Just not eating eggs will not
    help you much. Weight loss and exercise though, on any diet, usually help lower cholesterol and
    increase good cholesterol and decrease bad cholesterol.

    In any case, if you don't like cholesterol from eggs, just do not eat mayonnaise... it's
    that simple.

    i

  11. Once upon a time, our fellow jmk rambled on about "Re: hellmans mayonnaise." Our champion De-
    Medicalizing in sci.med.nutrition retorts, thusly ...

    Quoted message said:

    My thought was that you can both reduce the transfats to zero and add some good fats via using an
    appropriate oil (canola, etc.) if you make it yourself.

    Or, you could end up killing yourself with food poisoning.

    Just thought that you might want to know. 🙂

  12. John 'the Man said:

    Once upon a time, our fellow jmk rambled on about "Re: hellmans mayonnaise." Our champion De-
    Medicalizing in sci.med.nutrition retorts, thusly ...

    Quoted message said:

    My thought was that you can both reduce the transfats to zero and add some good fats via using an
    appropriate oil (canola, etc.) if you make it yourself.

    Or, you could end up killing yourself with food poisoning.

    Just thought that you might want to know. 🙂

    cnn.comindex.html
    --
    jmk in NC

  13. Kev said:
    jmk at said:
    jmk said:

    Have you considered making your own mayonnaise? All it is is oil, egg, vinegar and/or lemon
    juice. After all, if you make your own, you know what is in it :-)

    Here's a basic recipe: 1 cup oil 1 egg 1 tablespoon of vinegar or lemon juice salt, pepper,
    paprika as desired

    Here is a link to some additional recipes:
    homecooking.about.comblcon64.htm

    Can one use something besides egg yolks to lower the cholesterol?

    Yes, but it won't be mayonnaise. The yolk has several functions, one of which is to help maintain
    the oil-water emulsion. You can substitute lecithin but it tastes like [censored] and looks like you
    already ran it through a llama once.

    Quoted message said:

    What are the best options to avoid salmonella?

    Make the mayo and let it sit at room temp for at least 8 hours. The acidity (should be around pH
    3.6) will kill the salmonella. That's what the commercial producers do.

    And, yes, mayo does fine at room temp. No spoilage until we introduce other stuff on knives when we
    scoop it out. Commercial mayo isn't processed or cooked. They make it and pop it into bottles. They
    hold it in their warehouses for a short maturation time and ship it to stores. Nowhere in there is
    it heated or cooled away from room temp.

    Pastorio

  14. Quoted message said:

    The monounsaturated fats are not listed and will probably account for most if not all of what is
    missing to the 79.1 g.

    but there are no guarantees that there are no transfats. It's a dangerous thing to guess about.

    -----------
    Thorsten Schier <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    David Taylor schrieb:

    Quoted message said:


    I read in an earlier google post :

    "#2. Use nutrition labels to estimate the trans fat content in a product. Add up the saturated,
    monounsaturated and polyunsaturated fat. If they are less than the "total fat" number, the
    remainder is likely trans fat, says Moore."

    Looking at hellmans mayonnaise (non-diet) In 100g Fat - 79.1g of which Saturates 5.6g of which
    polyunsaturates 22.0g of which Omega 3 fatty acids 7.3g

    Clearly there are other fats not listed. As 5.6+22+7.3 don't make 79.1

    The Omega 3 fatty acids are also polyunsaturates, so you can't add them if you have already
    added those.

    Quoted message said:

    What fats are not listed? and why? And could it be trans fats? If you say it doesn't contain
    trans fats, then how can you be sure? I have heard that some other mayos do contain trans fats.

    thanks.

    The monounsaturated fats are not listed and will probably account for most if not all of what is
    missing to the 79.1 g.

    Thorsten

  15. On Sat, 27 Dec 2003 23:51:56 -0800, "Al" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    Look at the ingredients list rather than the nutritional information. If you see any hydrogenated
    or partially-hydrogenated oils listed, those are trans fats.

    It is fully possible to partially-hydrogenate oils without producing trans-fats. (They are removed
    by purification during the production) But not all producers do that since it diminishes profits.
    And that is the key here. Profit.

  16. On Mon, 29 Dec 2003 09:02:43 -0500, jmk <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    Sorry but no. After all, it's maynnaise :-/ My only suggestion is to use it in moderation. My
    thought was that you can both reduce the

    Egg contain some cholesterol, but that content don't affect your cholesterol concentration in your
    blood at all. But ingestion of some fats do. Transfats increases LDL, saturated fats it is newly
    published increases HDL and some PUFA's seem to decrease HDL specifically, especially linoleic acid
    and arachidonate.

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