High Beams

cfsmtb said:

Back to topic. What's the legalities of cars using high beam in the city
and built up areas? From heresay, I was always lead to believe it was a
minor traffic offence.
(snip)

Me, too. But what difference does it make?? Same old, same old. Ther
are minor and major offences that are committed over an over, out o
lack of knowledge, lack of care, lack of respect, etc. etc

The bottomline is that they happen. Who's to police/correct them? sig
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Cheers, Amir

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cfsmtb said:

Back to topic. What's the legalities of cars using high beam in the

city

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and built up areas? From heresay, I was always lead to believe it was

a

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minor traffic offence.
(snip)

Me, too. But what difference does it make?? Same old, same old. There
are minor and major offences that are committed over an over, out of
lack of knowledge, lack of care, lack of respect, etc. etc.

The bottomline is that they happen. Who's to police/correct them? sigh
🙁

Cheers, Amir.

Too true. You see cars just gliding all over the road crossing unbroken
lines on left and right. Must have been no good at colouring in as a kid.

Theo Bekkers said:

"amirm" wrote

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When motorist don't dim their light, I use my high beam.

That's a brilliant idea. Try to blind the operator of an oncoming one
and a half tonne lump of metal.

You don't need to blind them, just to get your your point across.
Most drivers are not [censored], just idiots, so you need to be unsubtle.

A simple blink works, in my experience.
A 20W spotlight does the job, only $6 from jaycar.

http://www1.jaycar.com.au/productView.asp?ID=SL2729&CATID=21&keywords=&SPECIAL=&form=CAT&ProdCodeOnly=&Keyword1=&Keyword2=&pageNumber=&priceMin=&priceMax=&SUBCATID=659

Peter Cremasco said:

Don't forget that experiment where people were asked to watch other
people going past them, and where then asked to recall what they'd seen.
None, apparently, noticed the man in the gorilla suit.

Shame on you Peter! Thanks to google, I found the correct context was this:

In a recent experiment, subjects watched a video of two teams passing a
ball back and forth. One team wore white shirts, and one black, and
subjects were asked to count how many times players in white shirts
passed the ball to each other. None of the subjects noticed the man in a
gorilla suit who walked on, waved at the audience, then walked off
again, proving that we only see what we’re looking for, not what’s
actually there.

BTW, I didnt find anything authorative. Even the above might be made up.

amirm said:

Nick Payne said:

I find that if I'm using a Cateye stadium light then most cars dip their

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Size matters, definitely.

No, one guy reported similar results by tilting a weak light.
Change in brightness is far more important than absolute brightness.

As for penii, girth is more important than length, neglecting
psychological factors.

hippy said:

getting darker and darker now. What are
people doing for their light setups? What
funky new products are out there that will
make me lighter, brighter and warmer?

I'm really happy with my new Lumicycle halogen lights to replace my
old Cateye Daylites. 30W instead of 15, and the NiMh battery weighs
less and lasts longer. Actually I haven't tested it beyond about 45
mins so far... The smart charger seems to work perfectly - I can plug
it in without even taking it off my bike, and leave it all night
without worrying about over-charging. I didn't bother with the water
bottle battery - the "strap on" battery weighs less and fits fine
inside a cut-down water bottle.

You can choose from a wide range of bulbs. I've got a 10W spot and a
20W mid - works very well for seeing dark-coloured dogs on dark bike
paths :-)

I got the glow ring option, for visibility from the sides. It worked
too well - I found that the "glow" was spoiling my night vision on
dark paths! Fixed that by cutting a rectangle of dark plastic for
each light, and attaching it to the top of the glow ring with a small
bulldog clip (minus its wire "handles"😉.

Lumicycle seems like a really cool company - just a small "cottage"
business in the UK. Well-proven product with good reviews for many
years. Only sell direct by internet order. Their website has much
better info than most bike light manufacturers. Great customer
service - when I had a problem with the initial charger they sent,
after giving me good tips via email to fix it, they sent another one
free of charge.

The only drawback from my old Cateye Daylight is the attachment to the
handlebars - the Cateye had a great system where two independently
adjustable lights are built into one unit, which clips onto a bracket
fixed in front of your handlebars. Very quick to swap bikes or take
off to avoid theft. Lumicycle has each light mounted directly above
the handlebar with a quick-release cam lock. The attachment works
well, but I find I have to adjust the "up/down" direction each time I
put them on a bike. Plus it doesn't leave room for my bike computer
:-( I've got some ideas for rigging up a DIY mount to snap the Lumis
into my old Cateye bracket... That would also help avoid the problem
of taking the lights off once they've been on for a while and they're
hot to hold.

Oh yeah, one other minor drawback - if you strap the battery onto the
top tube instead of putting it in a cut-down water bottle, the straps
are not very well designed - hard to push them through the clip.
Velcro would be easier - if I get round to it I'll sew some on.

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On Thu, 04 Mar 2004 23:56:38 GMT, "John Doe" <[email hidden]>

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I also wondered if wearing a multi coloured clown wig on my helmet would
help visibility. I think something different catches peoples eye. I am

not

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worried about what others think of me though so that maybe an advantage.

You'd think that being different, you'd stand out, wouldn't you? Not
so, apparently.

Don't forget that experiment where people were asked to watch other
people going past them, and where then asked to recall what they'd seen.
None, apparently, noticed the man in the gorilla suit.

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Cheers

PeterC

[Rushing headlong: out of control - and there ain't no stopping]
[and there's nothing you can do about it at all]

Soooo... If I ride in a gorilla suit it is likely no-one will notice me?

Kevin

"Theo Bekkers" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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"amirm" wrote

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When motorist don't dim their light, I use my high beam.

That's a brilliant idea. Try to blind the operator of an oncoming one
and a half tonne lump of metal.

Theo

I am not sure if there is a difference between a blinded cyclist running
into the path of a 1.5 tonne lump of metal, and a blinded driver of the 1.5
tonne lump of metal running into a blinded cyclist. The only thing that
comes to mind is that in the second case no-one saw what hit them.

Kev

Mike said:

Peter Cremasco said:

Don't forget that experiment where people were asked to watch other
people going past them, and where then asked to recall what they'd seen.
None, apparently, noticed the man in the gorilla suit.

Shame on you Peter! Thanks to google, I found the correct context was this:

In a recent experiment, subjects watched a video of two teams passing a
ball back and forth. One team wore white shirts, and one black, and
subjects were asked to count how many times players in white shirts
passed the ball to each other. None of the subjects noticed the man in a
gorilla suit who walked on, waved at the audience, then walked off
again, proving that we only see what we’re looking for, not what’s
actually there.

Yeah... well....errrr....that was the general context.....

[hangs head in shame]

bloody google wiz. $#%#

🙂

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Cheers

PeterC

[Rushing headlong: out of control - and there ain't no stopping]
[and there's nothing you can do about it at all]

On Fri, 05 Mar 2004 03:45:15 GMT, cfsmtb <[email hidden]>

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stucey said:

Do many of you cyclists have problems with traffic not dipping their
headlights for you at night time. I have started riding a bit at night,
and found alot of motorists to leave them on high beam......quite
annoying!😠

Back to topic. What's the legalities of cars using high beam in the city
and built up areas? From heresay, I was always lead to believe it was a
minor traffic offence.

It used to be that headlights were a no-no in built-up areas. That rule
changed, if I'm not mistaken, quite a few years ago (at least up here in
God's Own Country). You can now use highbeam, but you must NOT use
highbeam when within (I think) 200 metres of another vehicle or if that
other vehicle dims his lights first.

In practice, there's not many places in a city where you can travel
without being within 200 metres of another vehicle.

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Cheers

PeterC

[Rushing headlong: out of control - and there ain't no stopping]
[and there's nothing you can do about it at all]

Andrew Reddaway <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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[...]

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The only drawback from my old Cateye Daylight is the attachment to the
handlebars - the Cateye had a great system where two independently
adjustable lights are built into one unit, which clips onto a bracket
fixed in front of your handlebars. Very quick to swap bikes or take
off to avoid theft. Lumicycle has each light mounted directly above
the handlebar with a quick-release cam lock. The attachment works
well, but I find I have to adjust the "up/down" direction each time I
put them on a bike. Plus it doesn't leave room for my bike computer
:-( I've got some ideas for rigging up a DIY mount to snap the Lumis
into my old Cateye bracket... That would also help avoid the problem
of taking the lights off once they've been on for a while and they're
hot to hold.

Would a space bar help? This American site has the best picture I can find
at short notice
http://www.performancebike.com/shop/large_photo.cfm?SKU=11366&Store=Bike but
in Oz they're around $20-$25.

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"I'm proud that I live in a country where witnessing two hours of bloody,
barbarous torture in gloating detail is considered indicia of religious
piety, whereas a mere second gazing upon a woman's breast is cause for
outraged apoplexy."
Betty Bowers, http://www.bettybowers.com/melgibsonpassion.html

Mike <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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As for penii, girth is more important than length, neglecting
psychological factors.

But is either as important as grammar? In English the plural of "penis" is
"penises". The Latin plural of "penis" is "penes", also acceptable in
English. There is no Latin word "penius" (in my dictionary anyway) of which
the plural would be "penii".

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"I'm proud that I live in a country where witnessing two hours of bloody,
barbarous torture in gloating detail is considered indicia of religious
piety, whereas a mere second gazing upon a woman's breast is cause for
outraged apoplexy."
Betty Bowers, http://www.bettybowers.com/melgibsonpassion.html

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"Peter Cremasco" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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On Thu, 04 Mar 2004 23:56:38 GMT, "John Doe" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

I also wondered if wearing a multi coloured clown wig on my helmet

would

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

help visibility. I think something different catches peoples eye. I

am

Quoted message said:

not

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

worried about what others think of me though so that maybe an

advantage.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

You'd think that being different, you'd stand out, wouldn't you? Not
so, apparently.

Don't forget that experiment where people were asked to watch other
people going past them, and where then asked to recall what they'd seen.
None, apparently, noticed the man in the gorilla suit.

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Cheers

PeterC

[Rushing headlong: out of control - and there ain't no stopping]
[and there's nothing you can do about it at all]

Soooo... If I ride in a gorilla suit it is likely no-one will notice me?

Kevin

Seems that way :-)

On Sat, 6 Mar 2004 02:38:05 +1100, "DRS" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Andrew Reddaway <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

The only drawback from my old Cateye Daylight is the attachment to the
handlebars - the Cateye had a great system where two independently
adjustable lights are built into one unit, which clips onto a bracket
fixed in front of your handlebars. Very quick to swap bikes or take
off to avoid theft. Lumicycle has each light mounted directly above
the handlebar with a quick-release cam lock. The attachment works
well, but I find I have to adjust the "up/down" direction each time I
put them on a bike. Plus it doesn't leave room for my bike computer
:-( I've got some ideas for rigging up a DIY mount to snap the Lumis
into my old Cateye bracket... That would also help avoid the problem
of taking the lights off once they've been on for a while and they're
hot to hold.

Would a space bar help? This American site has the best picture I can find
at short notice
http://www.performancebike.com/shop/large_photo.cfm?SKU=11366&Store=Bike but
in Oz they're around $20-$25.

Thanks - that would certainly help with the lack of space. I think
I'll have a go at my custom mount first though, 'cause that would also
avoid having to re-adjust the lights when I put them on...

DRS said:

But is either as important as grammar? In English the plural of "penis" is
"penises". The Latin plural of "penis" is "penes", also acceptable in

Ah, this is my bad karma for google-ing Peter's gorilla story.
You must really get bugged by all those computer virii stories :-)

Mike said:

amirm said:

Nick Payne said:

I find that if I'm using a Cateye stadium light then most cars dip
their

Size matters, definitely.

No, one guy reported similar results by tilting a weak light. Change in
brightness is far more important than absolute brightness.
As for penii, girth is more important than length, neglecting
psychological factors.

Mike:

As for your first comment, just read it again. On what sort of basis ar
you issuing your rule? One guy's report??? Have you ever driven a car a
night?? How fool are the drivers not to distinguish between somethin
insignificant like a bike's light and something like a motorbike or
car? Yeah, the brilliant idea is to keep changing the direction o
headlight while riding at night

For the second comment, why do we have to think of genitals as soon a
we hear the word "size"? Do you have a problem with size? 😉 Coming bac
to your comment, the problem is while size is instantly evident, th
girth is a matter of one's claim. So this argument is so subjective

Cheers, Amir

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