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  1. Greetings, all --

    I'm an American who is planning to come and hike as much of Hadrian's wall as makes sense in late
    May, early June. I'm not very familiar with the area, so I'm trying to do as much research as
    possible before I go. I was hoping some of you wouldn't mind sharing your expertise. (I found the
    old Hadrian's Wall thread here and read it, but am still hoping for some updated answers --
    particularly since it has become a World Heritage site with a full path, etc.)

    If anyone can provide answers either here or in private email I'd be very grateful. Here goes:

    1) I have found two companies who provide assistance to walkers. Namely, they offer maps and pre-
    book you in nearby locations, provide some combination of your meals for the day, return journey
    and transport your baggage from place to place. One is called Trek-Inn (www.trek-inn.com); the
    other is Mickeldore (www.mickledore.co.uk). There is a decent difference in both philosophy of
    the walk from both, and one costs several hundred dollars more than the other. So: Do you think
    paying somewhere between 500 and 600 pounds for the organisation of the trip (this includes the
    accommodation, of course, and the others mentioned above) is a good way to go? Do you know
    anything about either company, and whether one is less reputable than the other? Is there a
    British travel association that rates such things?

    2) The East/West debate. Trek-Inn says going West-East is the way to do it, due to prevailing
    weather conditions (wind at your back, etc.) Mickeldore says East-West is the way to go, and
    some postings I read indicated that if you do it this way the scenery gets better as you go,
    rather than starting out great and going downhill (so to speak) from there. Is there a general
    consensus on this? And while this may betray a profound lack of knowledge about the Wall, does
    going one way or the other somehow upset a "chronological" progression? Or does that not matter?

    3) It sounds as if much of the Newcastle-area Wall is suburban, tarmac, and not even visible
    particularly. That said, where would be a reasonable place to start? Is Newcastle (and environs)
    just a dead spot for the Wall and there is more to see East of Newcastle? Also, I realize the
    wall does not go past Carlisle; is there a reason to continue all the way to the sea? (Beautiful
    scenery is enough reason for me.)

    4) My choice of time of year: I'm trying to avoid the worst of any crowds, while still catching what
    may be some decent weather. Is late May/early June a bad idea, or a good one?

    Thanks so much for anything you can discuss. If there's anything else I should watch out for, or
    look for, I'd appreciate hearing that, too!

    --Randee

  2. Randee said:

    Greetings, all --

    I'm an American who is planning to come and hike as much of Hadrian's wall as makes sense in late
    May, early June.

    I recommend that you fly here with a non US airline. Statistically, European airlines are less
    likely to be flown into buildings than US ones, and an added benefit is that "at risk" flights are
    canceled, rather than flown with gunmen, so you have a lower likelihood of being shot by an errant
    bullet from a sky marshal's gun.

  3. "Randee" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Greetings, all --

    I'm an American who is planning to come and hike as much of Hadrian's wall as makes sense in late
    May, early June.

    Go for it - you will love it

    Quoted message said:

    1) I have found two companies who provide assistance to walkers.

    Don't know too much about that as we shuttle camped with 2 cars - but yes you may well need that, as
    accomodation is generally a fair distance away from the actual route.

    Quoted message said:

    3) It sounds as if much of the Newcastle-area Wall is suburban, tarmac,


    and

    Quoted message said:

    not even visible particularly.

    Correct ! - but there is much to see - ie: Segedunum - the official end/start point of the walk, at
    Wallsend - and east from that is Arbeia (South Shields - also a great place for a celebratory end of
    walk night out
    !) on the North Sea coast, which is believed to be the historical port from
    where the Romans supplied men & materials for the Wall.
    - in my opinion you should walk west to east as the scenery in the west (Bowness on Solway to
    Carlisle is flat and bland) - but that is only my opinion - honest ! ....the only drawback I found
    was that the official guide book goes east to west - but that's not a big drawback - the path is
    extremely well signposted.

    Quoted message said:

    4) My choice of time of year: I'm trying to avoid the worst of any crowds, while still catching
    what may be some decent weather. Is late May/early


    June

    Quoted message said:

    a bad idea, or a good one?

    Your choice would be a good one - although if you went during the last 2 weeks of August you would
    be virtually guaranteed very good weather - also at the end of August there will be Roman camp &
    battle re-enactments / events / displays all along the wall - but whatever time of year you go, be
    sure to leave plenty of time to visit the local visitor centres.

    Quoted message said:

    Thanks so much for anything you can discuss. If there's anything else I should watch out for, or
    look for, I'd appreciate hearing that, too!

    some links for you hadrians-wall.orghadrians-wall.org birdoswaldromanfort.orgbirdoswaldromanfort.org
    nationaltrust.org.uknthandbook.dll RTYID=182
    vindolanda.comvindolanda.com

    my pics here community.webshots.com75389137gRUMEG

    I hope you enjoy it - mail me direct if you need any more info

    thanks

    Ted

  4. C L Imber said:
    Randee said:

    Greetings, all --

    I'm an American who is planning to come and hike as much of Hadrian's wall as makes sense in late
    May, early June.

    I recommend that you fly here with a non US airline. Statistically, European airlines are less
    likely to be flown into buildings than US ones, and an added benefit is that "at risk" flights are
    canceled, rather than flown with gunmen, so you have a lower likelihood of being shot by an errant
    bullet from a sky marshal's gun.

    How much longer can it be before only US airlines are allowed to fly into US airspace?

    Chris
    --
    Chris Eilbeck "][email hidden]

  5. Chris Eilbeck said:
    C L Imber said:
    Randee said:

    Greetings, all --

    I'm an American who is planning to come and hike as much of Hadrian's wall as makes sense in late
    May, early June.


    I recommend that you fly here with a non US airline. Statistically, European airlines are less
    likely to be flown into buildings than US ones, and an added benefit is that "at risk" flights are
    canceled, rather than flown with gunmen, so you have a lower likelihood of being shot by an errant
    bullet from a sky marshal's gun.

    How much longer can it be before only US airlines are allowed to fly into US airspace?

    Chris

    Why would any other airline want to?

    Katherine

  6. "Katherine" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >

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    Why would any other airline want to?

    Want to fly to the USA? Are we that shameful and despicable? Compared to what or whom? I have a hard
    time summoning up that much self-loathing.

    JG

  7. C L Imber wrote

    Quoted message said:

    I recommend that you fly here with a non US airline. Statistically, European airlines are less
    likely to be flown into buildings than US ones, and an added benefit is that "at risk" flights are
    canceled, rather than flown with gunmen, so you have a lower likelihood of being shot by an errant
    bullet from a sky marshal's gun.

    Eh? The guy only wanted some information on Hadrian's Wall. Why the aggro?

    Chris

  8. john goldfine said:

    "Katherine" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >

    Quoted message said:

    Why would any other airline want to?

    Want to fly to the USA? Are we that shameful and despicable? Compared to what or whom? I have a
    hard time summoning up that much self-loathing.

    JG

    No, I meant because of the security problems.

    Katherine

  9. Thanks, guys and gals. Now ... other than Tim, can anyone assist with any suggestions or answers?

    By the way, I was already planning on taking BA. Not that it should matter.

    --R

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    To Mr Troll

    And would you be posting this [censored] if your family died in the towers or


    the

    Quoted message said:

    planes?

    Jhimmy

    Quoted message said:

    I recommend that you fly here with a non US airline. Statistically, European airlines are less
    likely to be flown into buildings than US ones, and an added benefit is that "at risk" flights
    are canceled, rather than flown with gunmen, so you have a lower likelihood of being shot by an
    errant bullet from a sky marshal's gun.

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  10. Randee <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:

    Thanks, guys and gals. Now ... other than Tim, can anyone assist with any suggestions or answers?

    By the way, I was already planning on taking BA. Not that it should matter.

    --R


    It would if you took flight BA222 - that was cancelled as a knock-on(*) from the cancellation of 223
    at this end, courtesy of American Intelligence. ;-)

    * Presumably to avoid aircraft positioning problems.
    --
    Gordon

  11. Personnally speaking, I'd rather just buy a couple of guide books, which are easily obtainable about
    Hadrians wall (the Roman Wall as it's called around here), hire a car and explore. There's loads of
    accomendation, beware of July and August months -> very busy. To get the whole "Wall" experience I'd
    say take a week. One day in Carlisle, one on Newcastle, 2 days on the Wall, one day at
    Wallsend/South Shields, 2 days to explore.

    An American piece of interest is that George Washington's ancestral home is only 7 miles from
    Wallsend and open to the public.

    BTW, Randee I live only a few miles from Wallsend. In fact I can almost see the the Musuem there
    from my bedroom, except for the bloody Oil platforms they keep building on the Tyne!

    Jhimmy.

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  12. "Randee" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Thanks, guys and gals. Now ... other than Tim, can anyone assist with any suggestions or answers?

    By the way, I was already planning on taking BA. Not that it should


    matter.

    Quoted message said:


    I've been reading this thread with despair as the replies seem to fall short of the usual
    constructive input:-(( I have a colleague who did this trip last year and will interrogate him
    tomorrow. Cheers Graham

  13. Randee wrote

    Quoted message said:

    2) The East/West debate.

    We walked East to West. This meant that we started in the busy metropolis and finished out on the
    peace of the Solway coast. I found this very agreeable. We did it at Easter and it snowed although
    this also meant that we had the weather at our backs for most of the week. If the weather had been
    in our faces I can imagine it would have got quite unpleasant.

    Quoted message said:

    3) is there a reason to continue all the way to the sea? (Beautiful scenery is enough reason
    for me.)

    I wouldn't say that the scenery is beautiful. The Solway Firth is somewhat austere but I like that.
    A couple of interesting fortified ancient farmsteads like that at Drumburgh. Yes, west of Carlisle
    is worth it IMO and you can do it in half a day so you don't have to stay at Bowness. Bus back to
    Carlisle for beer and a night on the town.

    Quoted message said:

    4) Is late May/early June a bad idea, or a good one?

    Sounds like a good choice to me but make sure you take plenty of skin moisturiser as you'll come
    back without a face otherwise.

    We did it 15 years ago and we really enjoyed it. The Miners Arms at Acomb is a must as is the pub
    and Twice Brewed. The wall is best between Sewingshields Crag and Greenhead. Towards Carlisle the
    route becomes (became!) a little obstructed but I would hope with it now being a national trail this
    has now been sorted out. I have to say that I don't think that the trek out of Newcastle is worth it
    and if I were to do it again I would start at Hexham.

    PM for more info if you wish.

    Chris

  14. ,snip . I have to say

    Quoted message said:

    that I don't think that the trek out of Newcastle is worth it and if I were to do it again I would
    start at Hexham.

    PM for more info if you wish.

    Chris

    Hexham is perhaps a bit far out to start the walk from the Eastern end. Segudunum [Wallsend] is well
    worth the visit, with the garrison foundations excavated and a working re-construction of a Roman
    Bath house. [take the Metro to Wallsend, the site is 5 minutes from the station. There is also a
    full size reconstruction of a section of wall just over the road. The out fort at South Shields
    [Arbeia] is another modern reconstruction and worth a visit.

    From Wallsend to the Western suburbs of Newcastle the wall all but disappears. There are remnants in
    the central reservation of the A69 thereabouts, but that's your lot. Newcastle is an historic city
    in its own right, but not really walking country.

    To celebrate the end of walk Newcastle/South Shields has more to offer than Carlisle. Also should be
    plenty of accommodation in Jesmond [Newcastle]; Whitley Bay; Tynemouth; South Shields. There is very
    good public transport in the Newcastle - South Shields -Whitley Bay area.

    Roger C

    PS I live locally so I suppose I should declare an interest when promoting the Eastern end!!

  15. "Roger Curtis" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    To celebrate the end of walk Newcastle/South Shields has more to offer


    than

    Quoted message said:

    Carlisle.

    You got that right - we finished the walk and stayed over in South Shields - what a place - Thursday
    night and it was jumping ! - needed a week to get over that - excellent though.

    Don't forget the Ocean Road for a curry !

    Ted

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