hill walking

like they were saying :

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By definition, though, any 4wd or motorbike on a bridleway is not responsible, since they
shouldn't be there in the first place...

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Mmm. Look at virtually any bridleway in the three peaks area and spot the motorbike erosion.

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(yes, it's motorbikes rather than 4wds that are the main problem round here IMO)

That's because it's usually impossible to get a 4wd onto a bridleway or footpath, whereas a
trailbike will fit between the width restrictions.

A Landie is wider than a horse. A trailbike isn't...

On 1 Mar 2004 05:40:52 -0800, [email hidden] (kim)

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What equipment will i require

Welcome to the crazy world of Scottish Students...

This one is lost, usually they infest uk.rec.walking which has been singled out by the curriculum
authorities as a training Newsgroup.

This causes all sorts of ructions within urw...

Meanwhile a bike is an excelent tool for getting over those long approaches to the hill. A pretty
conventional hillwalking tool.

Richard Webb

(RJ Webb) said:

On 1 Mar 2004 05:40:52 -0800, [email hidden] (kim) wrote:

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What equipment will i require

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Meanwhile a bike is an excelent tool for getting over those long approaches to the hill. A pretty
conventional hillwalking tool.

I think novices would be well advised to start with indoor hills. If they want to do the bicycle
approach bit they could use a stationary bike. May seem expensive but you have to factor in the all-
weather access and lack of travel costs and time. With a hill in your bedroom even a Londoner can
put in half an hour's hill walking before breakfast everyday.

Check out your local mountain shop, ask for indoor exercise hills.

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[email hidden] (Chris Malcolm) wrote in news:c270iq$p8d$1
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Check out your local mountain shop, ask for indoor exercise hills.

Western Australia being remarkably flat, I was suffering hill walking withdrawal symptoms. None of
the local outdoor shops stock these so I had to make do with the slightly unevenly laid hall carpet.
The challenge just isn't the same though :-(

Graeme

Chris Malcolm said:

I think novices would be well advised to start with indoor hills. If they want to do the bicycle
approach bit they could use a stationary bike. May seem expensive but you have to factor in the
all-weather access and lack of travel costs and time. With a hill in your bedroom even a Londoner
can put in half an hour's hill walking before breakfast everyday.

Check out your local mountain shop, ask for indoor exercise hills.

Excellent idea. Whilst you are at it, it might also be a good plan to pop down to your local quarry
and pick up a couple of tons of hardcore. Liberally distributed on the stairs, you too can once
again enjoy the dying art of indoor scree running. Hell, you could even create your very own MTB
downhill course. Just add a few bits of rockery stone and some Red Bull posters, hey presto!

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"little soldier"

In article <[email hidden]>,

Alex Ferrier said:

to pop down to your local quarry and pick up a couple of tons of hardcore.

If you need to find a suitable source of hardcore, just type ``hardcore'' into google.com. Many
websites offer it at very reasonable prices.

ian

In "]news:[email hidden],
Ian G Batten <[email hidden]> typed:

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In article said:

to pop down to your local quarry and pick up a couple of tons of hardcore.

If you need to find a suitable source of hardcore, just type ``hardcore'' into google.com. Many
websites offer it at very reasonable prices.

I get offers of it direct to my email inbox all the time. I'm not sure how that works.

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The only caveat to that is the number of people who have a GPS aswell, then they 'phone the
'emergency services' saying where they are but due to the (usually) inherent error with GPS

Must be a narrow valley - GPS units are not that inaccurate, only a matter of metres now, with good
reception.

A victim may readout the wrong grid ref though, like those numpties that wiped out a farm 100 or
100*root2km from the infected one because they got a letter wrong in the grid ref. during foot
and mouth.

GPS units make marking the whereabouts of a casualty easy - they tell you where you are. Now where
you are going and how to get there are best used to more traditional methods (augmented with a GPS
if you so wish - love it here on the fence)

Sometimes navigation is so bloody hard, that all help is welcome. Stuff the purists, skiing in poor
visibility, I am grateful for the technology.

Richard Webb

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I'd like to use one at orienteering, to record the route taken rather than to navigate, but it
means finding an open moorland event rather than a forest run, it also means the run not being so
important that I can't run non-competitively.

Keep meaning to do that, not that it will destroy the fairness of the run, just a small event, in
the open and not looking at the beast (useless on grid free maps anyway). The reason, I have always
wondered how much further I run than the straightline course length given . Obviously in mooland, my
routes are usually closer to the straight line than a nasty thick forest, but it would be fun to
find out, just how long an orienteering course is.

I still use my GPS as an odometer on the bike. Lives in the map pocket of my bar bag.

Richard Webb

Ambrose Nankivell said:

In "]news:[email hidden], Ian G Batten <[email hidden]> typed:

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In article <[email hidden]>, Alex Ferrier <alex@alex-

f.demon.co.uk said:

to pop down to your local quarry and pick up a couple of tons of hardcore.

If you need to find a suitable source of hardcore, just type ``hardcore'' into google.com. Many
websites offer it at very reasonable prices.

I get offers of it direct to my email inbox all the time. I'm not sure how that works.

No, those are for products that make your hardcore go further, so you'll be satisfied with less.
Your partner will also be happy with hardcore on the steps (and presumably anywhere else), too, and
it'll reduce her complaints, apparently.

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Trevor Barton

On Thu, 04 Mar 2004 12:25:24 GMT, RJ Webb <[email hidden]>

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I'd like to use one at orienteering, to record the route taken rather than to navigate, but it
means finding an open moorland event rather than a forest run, it also means the run not being so
important that I can't run non-competitively.

Keep meaning to do that, not that it will destroy the fairness of the run, just a small event, in
the open and not looking at the beast (useless on grid free maps anyway).

Absolutely but since the BOC are the next possible event I think I'll stick technically to the
rulkes just in case due to some sort of miracle I do well.

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The reason, I have always wondered how much further I run than the straightline course length
given . Obviously in mooland, my routes are usually closer to the straight line than a nasty thick
forest, but it would be fun to find out, just how long an orienteering course is.

Same here. I always reckon to half as much again or the the quoted number of kilometres in miles. I
would alos be interested in working out just how I could have made some of those enormous mistakes I
make from time to time.

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I still use my GPS as an odometer on the bike. Lives in the map pocket of my bar bag.

I've not used mine in anger on the bike yet.

Colin
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Ian G Batten said:

If you need to find a suitable source of hardcore, just type ``hardcore'' into google.com. Many
websites offer it at very reasonable prices.

Hi Ian

And it's not just hardcore that rocks. My local kite shop used to have a nice little web site
<http://www.carouselkites.co.uk/>. Both it and <http://www.carouselkites.com> have been nicked.

James

On the subject of GPS, we sometimes use them when surveying as part of our degree. These ones are
accurate to within about 2mm. We (the students)are expected to survey to a sufficiently accurate
level as to calibrate the gpg. still this level of accuracy is a far cry from the 200m being
bandied about.