holden VS ford

Holden (General Motors) for sure...although i love the new xr6
turbos...they **** over hsv

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Holden (General Motors) for sure...although i love the new xr6
turbos...they **** over hsv

Did I miss something?
Isn't this the bike group.. cagers to the left? :-P

hippy
HSV? $100k for a Holden?! bwahahaha
Mmm... R34 Skyline GT-R

hmmm yes yes I see your point... one little thing... WRONG NG YOU IDIOT!

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holden 😄

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holden 😄

Both and none. Both because they both are great cars for the value
(Falcon and Commodore). None, because they are still technologically
unsophisticated, lagging behind Euro's. I vote for my Audi A4 1.8TQ.

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Did I miss something? Isn't this the bike group.. cagers to the left?
:-P

Ummm, from an engineering point of view, bicycles and cars "DO" have
something in common :p

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Internal combustion engine with four wheels? Boring.

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now compare the price and features of the Audi 1.8 to the 3.8 and 4.0
Falcons.

Give me the commodore or falcon anyday

Paul

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holden 😄

Both and none. Both because they both are great cars for the value
(Falcon and Commodore). None, because they are still technologically
unsophisticated, lagging behind Euro's. I vote for my Audi A4 1.8TQ.

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yeah right
let me guess - you'd take the auto over the manual any day?

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now compare the price and features of the Audi 1.8 to the 3.8 and 4.0
Falcons.

Give me the commodore or falcon anyday

Paul

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holden 😄

Both and none. Both because they both are great cars for the value
(Falcon and Commodore). None, because they are still technologically
unsophisticated, lagging behind Euro's. I vote for my Audi A4 1.8TQ.

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technically unsophisicated, but still with a ton of power and heaps of
space. And usually much cheaper. Not only much cheaper to buy, but much
cheaper to insure and to fix. Check out spare parts costs of European
cars.

yes I definately would prefer a Falcon or Commodore. My current car is an
AU2 ex police car. (police mods include XR6 suspension, ABS, cruise) If I
could afford a Euro car, then I would have a more powerful Falcon of
COmmodore like an XR8 or SS. Or one with more space like a Fairlane or
Caprice. This means more to me than how quiet the car is, or whether
others at the coffee shop are impressed by the badge or not.

i would prefer a manual, but I drive an auto. That is because manuals are
hard to find.

Falcon wagons are great for transporting bikes! Dont even need to take any
wheels off.

Paul

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yeah right
let me guess - you'd take the auto over the manual any day?

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now compare the price and features of the Audi 1.8 to the 3.8 and 4.0
Falcons.

Give me the commodore or falcon anyday

Paul

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holden 😄

Both and none. Both because they both are great cars for the value
(Falcon and Commodore). None, because they are still technologically
unsophisticated, lagging behind Euro's. I vote for my Audi A4 1.8TQ.

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Depends whether you like your turds to be solid or soft...

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holden 😄

Sometimes I like holden on for a tow up a long hill, but once my glove
got caught on a semi-trailer and I went a bit further and faster than I
wanted!

- LB

I didn't know they made bikes.

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I didn't know they made bikes.

Holden were marketing a Monaro mountain bike at one stage

http://www.google.com.au/search?q=cache:SmQWSYACIu8J:www.holden.com.au/www-holden/action/merchandise%3FcategoryID%3D9+Holden+monaro+mountain+bike&hl=en&ie=UTF-8

Rob

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technically unsophisicated, but still with a ton of power and heaps of
space. And usually much cheaper. Not only much cheaper to buy, but
much cheaper to insure and to fix. Check out spare parts costs of
European cars.
yes I definately would prefer a Falcon or Commodore. My current car is
an AU2 ex police car. (police mods include XR6 suspension, ABS, cruise)
If I could afford a Euro car, then I would have a more powerful Falcon
of COmmodore like an XR8 or SS. Or one with more space like a Fairlane
or Caprice. This means more to me than how quiet the car is, or whether
others at the coffee shop are impressed by the badge or not.
i would prefer a manual, but I drive an auto. That is because manuals
are hard to find.
Falcon wagons are great for transporting bikes! Dont even need to take
any wheels off.
Paul

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yeah right let me guess - you'd take the auto over the manual any day?

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compare the price and features of the Audi 1.8 to the
3.8 and 4.0 Falcons.

Give me the commodore or falcon anyday

Paul

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> holden 😄

Both and none. Both because they both are great cars for the value
(Falcon and Commodore). None, because they are still technologically
unsophisticated, lagging behind Euro's. I vote for my Audi A4 1.8TQ.

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First, let me see you after a car accident. We won't have accidents
every day, and I hope they never happen to anyone. But sadly they
happen, and many times they are other people's fault. In that case,
that car is worth your while which saves your life and those of whom
you hold dear.

Secondly, I had a VT Commodore before my current car. Loved it. But hey
you get what you pay for. You have no idea how much I spent on brakes
and chasis to fix the flaws it had to be considered a driveable car? Do
you still think the horsepower and acceleration are the main factors to
distinguish cars? What about that AU falcon that accelerates fast off
the line (thanks to its huge petrol gulping donk), at the first sharp
turn cannot slow down fast enough (due to its inferior brakes), gets a
tail spin (due to its hugh body roll, poor chasis balance and lack of
sophisticated technologies such as ESP), goes off the road, hits a tree
and kills/badly injures its driver (because the body did not crumble out
properly, the steering column went through the driver becuase it was not
multi-piece) and so on?

Frankly, I would rather drive a car that has a performance that doesn't
stir my and my fellow drivers' ego. In addition that car has to be a
complete package. Something well thought. After all, I'm putting my life
in that car when I drive it at high speeds or in tricky conditions. I
work hard for my life. Why would I want to joepardise it? But that's me.

One reason I ride to work every day, though, is the piece of mind that I
get. Driving a car is just too stressful. As much as I love cars I like
to stay away from them these days.

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jesus h. christ on a bike. wrong forum to discuss this. how 'bout
something more appropriate.

like graecross vs. royce union🙄

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First, let me see you after a car accident. We won't have accidents
every day, and I hope they never happen to anyone. But sadly they
happen, and many times they are other people's fault.

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After all, I'm putting my life
in that car when I drive it at high speeds or in tricky conditions.

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work hard for my life. Why would I want to joepardise it?

Sounds to me like your driving to have an 'accident'.

After more than 40 years of driving, still avoiding my first collision
in a motor car.

Theo

I agree with hippy -'Did I miss something? Isn't this the bike group..
cagers to the left? :-P

hippy HSV? $100k for a Holden?! bwahahaha
Mmm... R34 Skyline GT-R'

The nissans go very hard but I would still prefer a nice bit of hardcore
bike riding action any day!
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The nissans go very hard but I would still prefer a nice bit of

hardcore

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bike riding action any day!
🙂

I've over the Skyline now.. why? Because I had a look
at one and my legs barely fit between the wheel and
the handbrake! Reason 2) Bikes in the back are not
an option.
So, Skylines are out..
WRX wagon? Will a complete bike fit in the back?
Crazy van like they have in Japan? This would be
a head turner and plenty of bikes would fit.

hippy
- cars though are waaay down the back of my mind
these days

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technically unsophisicated, but still with a ton of power and heaps of
space. And usually much

Yes, but at the expense of a huge capacity engine and earths natural
recources.

European and japanese cars are on the right track, smaller more
efficient engines, utilising power transfer from flywheel to "the
wheels".

Holden and ford, yes, nice big cars. Did you know holden still uses
pushrods instead of direct camshafts? C'mon, and the genIII engines,
ridiculously unreliable and short life span.

Saying this, I will admit that i would love gts 5.7 L sitting in my
garage anyday :p

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