how bad is running....

Okay, you convinced me. I quit.

Mike Henley said:

i have the impression that running is really really bad for the knees especially and lower body
joints...

why don't you guys adopt a different sport that now there are lots of non-impact or low impact
exercise options...

rowing is good

In article said:

i have the impression that running is really really bad for the knees especially and lower body
joints...

why don't you guys adopt a different sport that now there are lots of non-impact or low impact
exercise options...

rowing is good

How bad is trolling ?

I have the impression that the less talented trolls often find themselves the object of derision
and ridicule.

Why don't you guys adopt a different activity now that there are lots of low humiliation
activities ?

Impersonating a chicken in the city square isn't good, but would be an improvement.

--
Donovan Rebbechi pegasus.rutgers.edu~elflordOpen ↗

In article said:

i have the impression that running is really really bad for the knees especially and lower body
joints...

why don't you guys adopt a different sport that now there are lots of non-impact or low impact
exercise options...

rowing is good

Michael,

What gives you that impression regarding running being really bad for knees and lower body joints.

It isn't the running that is bad for the knees and lower body joints, it is improper running form
and style that creates the problems with knees and lower body joints.

The issue, Michael, is that any sport done improperly, without thought or a sense of correct form
and style, is really back for one's physical, mental and spiritual health.

If you think you're doing something correctly and it is wrong you'll never change.

It is about proper movement. I would think that you would know that.

I know many a crew member who has rowed and destroyed their lower back due to improper form that
misused the back and strained it.

I'm sure that there are many who have rowed the Henley and no longer row because their poor form
that gradually created chronic injuries.

In health and on the run, Ozzie Gontang Maintainer - rec.running FAQ Director, San Diego Marathon
Clinic, est. 1975

Mindful Running: mindfulness.commr.aspOpen ↗ faqs.orgrunning faqOpen ↗

Mike Henley said:

i have the impression that running is really really bad for the knees especially and lower body
joints...

not to worry. replacements are getting cheaper... buy one get one free...

Quoted message said:

why don't you guys adopt a different sport that now there are lots of non-impact or low impact
exercise options...

you might be mistaken.

even seemingly non-impact or low impact exercise options like trolling involve typing on the
keyboard or clicking buttons which can eventually lead to repetitive stress injuries.

Quoted message said:

rowing is good

i have the impression that rowing is really really bad for the elbows especially the upper
body joints...

Quoted message said:

i have the impression that running is really really bad for the knees especially and lower
body joints..

Running is this bad for you: There's a study of people (males) aged 50-70 that concludes that the
death rate for running club members is THREE TIMES lower than the rate for those the same age who
never ran. So you can sit there belching at your computer screen too lazy to get off your ass and do
something healthy...and we'll be the ones dancing at your funeral.

Lyndon "Speed Kills...It kills those that don't have it!" --US Olympic Track Coach Brooks Johnson

Okay give me a replacement for running.

But make sure it has all these features:

1) The ability to utilize at any time... night or day.
2) Using minimal equipment.
3) The replacement exercise can go anywhere... on a beach, in the mountains etc.
4) Can be done with others readily.
5) Can relieve stress without the use of a pill.

I am sure I could go on but ...

Len

(Mike Henley) said:

i have the impression that running is really really bad for the knees especially and lower body
joints...

why don't you guys adopt a different sport that now there are lots of non-impact or low impact
exercise options...

rowing is good

Sounds like you may be a wait wifter.

Rowing? Christ, even pissant joggers have more dignity than that.

clown w is bad

poor santa he only cum's once a year

Mike Henley said:

rowing is good

Why is it you don't see any older (>50) competitive rowers? I thought about rowing, but the
"Masters" category starts at age 30 or something ridiculous (younger than my kids!).

There's no lack of older folks in running events.

Wake

Len A. said:

Okay give me a replacement for running.

Quoted message said:

But make sure it has all these features:

Quoted message said:

1) The ability to utilize at any time... night or day.
2) Using minimal equipment.
3) The replacement exercise can go anywhere... on a beach, in the mountains etc.
4) Can be done with others readily.
5) Can relieve stress without the use of a pill.

Quoted message said:

I am sure I could go on but ...

Quoted message said:

Len

shadow boxing.

Len A. said:

Okay give me a replacement for running.

But make sure it has all these features:

1) The ability to utilize at any time... night or day.
2) Using minimal equipment.
3) The replacement exercise can go anywhere... on a beach, in the mountains etc.
4) Can be done with others readily.
5) Can relieve stress without the use of a pill.

relative.

--
Doug Freese "Caveat Lector" [email hidden]

"Mike Henley" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

Quoted message said:

i have the impression that running is really really bad for the knees especially and lower body
joints...

why don't you guys adopt a different sport that now there are lots of non-impact or low impact
exercise options...

rowing is good

Try a better troll, and you'll get more bites. I'm suprised you got a few responses from people that
were fooled.

cheers,
--
David (in Hamilton, ON) www.allfalldown.org

Ozzie Gontang <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Michael,

What gives you that impression regarding running being really bad for knees and lower body joints.

It isn't the running that is bad for the knees and lower body joints, it is improper running form
and style that creates the problems with knees and lower body joints.

The issue, Michael, is that any sport done improperly, without thought or a sense of correct form
and style, is really back for one's physical, mental and spiritual health.

If you think you're doing something correctly and it is wrong you'll never change.

It is about proper movement. I would think that you would know that.

I know many a crew member who has rowed and destroyed their lower back due to improper form that
misused the back and strained it.

I'm sure that there are many who have rowed the Henley and no longer row because their poor form
that gradually created chronic injuries.

In health and on the run, Ozzie Gontang Maintainer - rec.running FAQ Director, San Diego Marathon
Clinic, est. 1975

Mindful Running: mindfulness.commr.aspOpen ↗ faqs.orgrunning faqOpen ↗

heh, i didn't know about that "the Henley" thing

Hen·ley ( P ) Pronunciation Key (hnl) or Hen·ley-on-Thames (-n-tmz, -ôn-)

A municipal borough of south-central England west of London. It is the site of a famed annual
rowing regatta that was established in 1839. Population: 10,976.

[email hidden] (Len A.) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

Quoted message said:

Okay give me a replacement for running.

But make sure it has all these features:

1) The ability to utilize at any time... night or day.
2) Using minimal equipment.
3) The replacement exercise can go anywhere... on a beach, in the mountains etc.
4) Can be done with others readily.
5) Can relieve stress without the use of a pill.

I am sure I could go on but ...

Len

eh, but you can't run when its raining...

i guess you could do rope jumping but that's even worse....

mat pilates... requires little equipiment... you can add a swiss ball to it for extra
challenge... you can do it while watching TV or listening to radio... you can do it on a beach or
in the mountains, you can do it with others, relieves stress and works out the whole body, it's
low impact...

steps... you can go up and down the stairs a few times or get a stepper, or get step workout thing
like that reebok one..

squats, pushups... such workouts

In article said:

[email hidden] (Len A.) wrote in message
news:<[email hidden]>...

Quoted message said:

Okay give me a replacement for running.

But make sure it has all these features:

1) The ability to utilize at any time... night or day.
2) Using minimal equipment.
3) The replacement exercise can go anywhere... on a beach, in the mountains etc.
4) Can be done with others readily.
5) Can relieve stress without the use of a pill.

I am sure I could go on but ...

Len

eh, but you can't run when its raining...

Dumbass.

[email hidden] (Mike Henley) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

Quoted message said:

[email hidden] (Len A.) wrote in message news:<23566-3FD523B7-429@storefull-
3198.bay.webtv.net>...

Quoted message said:

Okay give me a replacement for running.

But make sure it has all these features:

1) The ability to utilize at any time... night or day.
2) Using minimal equipment.
3) The replacement exercise can go anywhere... on a beach, in the mountains etc.
4) Can be done with others readily.
5) Can relieve stress without the use of a pill.

I am sure I could go on but ...

Len

eh, but you can't run when its raining...

Why Mike? Are you made of sugar? Rain is not a problem. Now if you said lightning, then you might
have made a point. But you didn't.

Quoted message said:

i guess you could do rope jumping but that's even worse....

mat pilates... requires little equipiment... you can add a swiss ball to it for extra challenge...
you can do it while watching TV or listening to radio... you can do it on a beach or in the
mountains, you can do it with others, relieves stress and works out the whole body, it's low
impact...

Maybe nice for non-run days.

Quoted message said:

steps... you can go up and down the stairs a few times or get a stepper, or get step workout thing
like that reebok one..

squats, pushups... such workouts

All boring, with little or no change of scenery.

Your suggested favorite at the beginning of this thread, rowing, has at least the same weather
related issues. Even more perhaps, cause I can run across that frozen lake in winter while you are
stuck indoors on the row machine. In summer, you have the lake, but I can run in the park, or in the
city, whatever scenery is accessible.

Now I'm not saying rowing is bad. If it keeps you fit, great. I just don't find it appealing. You
seem to find running unappealing. Make the choice but don't slander something just because you
don't like it.

You might have made some better progress in this discussion if you spoke of the advantages and
benefits you find in rowing. Being negative is a loser.

Enjoy your row and I'll enjoy my next run.

Your impression is false. The data does not suggest anything of the sort. Running and other impact
exercises are excellent for bone mineral density. Whenever a high profile person who runs (President
Bush for instance) gets achy knees it is automatically assumed running caused it.

Anyway, why would you come over to lecture? Do you really think any here is going to say "Damn, that
Mike Henley is right. Tomorrow I am quitting running."? Anyway, where I live there is no water for
rowing and the idea of spending the time inside is for the birds. "Mike Henley" <[email hidden]>
wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

i have the impression that running is really really bad for the knees especially and lower body
joints...

why don't you guys adopt a different sport that now there are lots of non-impact or low impact
exercise options...

rowing is good

Coming into a running group and saying that running is bad for the knees impresses me as potental
flame bait. My appologoies if that was NOT the intent. However, I would like to reply to be the
lone runner that yes... running is potentially bad for your knees. I'm sure there will be lots of
very defensive posts talking about how running is great for your knees, etc... but come on folks...
let's face it... as far as risk of injury goes... and especially reptitive strain injury... running
is WAAAAAAY up there!! That's NOT to say that you can't run for a lifetime and have no troubles if
you are very careful and run smart... but running is inherantly very risky and there is something
about the sport which inspires many to push too hard, too fast. Myself, I still run a few times a
week... usually not much more than 5-8K... but I also do Asthanga Yoga 3X a week, swim once or
twice a week and spend most of the summer out on the water rowing. Variety is good 🙂 I'm probably
going to train for a marathon this winter (since there is little else to do in winter) just to say
I've done it... but after that I'm going back to 5K's here and there mixed in with all of my other
activities. BTW... I've already done a half-marathon (1:46) and have been running for almost 3
years... so I'm not taking the marathon lightly. I have a pretty good idea what I'm getting myself
into 🙂 My main goal tho' is to be to finish healthy and uninjured. The urge to shoot for some
unrealistic time is the biggest risk in running and the surest way to destroy your knees, feet,
whatever. Anyway... yes, running does have a strong potential to be bad for your knees, but it
doesn't have to be if you are careful.
--
David Nova Scotia, Canada