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  1. Original post
    George Herbert Walker
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    Good grief. How is any of this going to help us get tires for little
    George? Bar and I asked a serious question: how can tires ride "harsh"?
    Instead of answers, we get people telling us about harsh tires that they
    rode, and now, about grammar. Do we have to wait for Brandt to get back
    before anyone can venture a real answer? Or is this NG just a joke? Come
    on.

    This is just like those idiots who derided Apple for their slogan "Think
    Different". Well, no one criticized another famous slogan "Think Pink", for
    not being "Think Pinkly". They mean two different things.

    Besides, I never asked how tires can ride harsh. I asked how tires can ride
    "harsh". There is a difference. This may help some people with their
    problem. If not, our boy has a nice space ready for you in Gitmo.

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  2. Mark Janeba
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    George Herbert Walker said:

    Good grief. How is any of this going to help us get tires for little
    George? Bar and I asked a serious question: how can tires ride "harsh"?
    Instead of answers, we get people telling us about harsh tires that they
    rode, and now, about grammar. Do we have to wait for Brandt to get back
    before anyone can venture a real answer?

    Amen. When you other guys are done discussing proper english usage,
    could we go "off topic" and discuss the way different tires feel? I'm
    interested in that subject also.

    Mark

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  3. S o r n i
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    #3
    Mark Janeba said:
    George Herbert Walker said:

    Good grief. How is any of this going to help us get tires for little
    George? Bar and I asked a serious question: how can tires ride
    "harsh"? Instead of answers, we get people telling us about harsh
    tires that they rode, and now, about grammar. Do we have to wait for
    Brandt to get back before anyone can venture a real answer?

    Amen. When you other guys are done discussing proper english usage,
    could we go "off topic" and discuss the way different tires feel? I'm
    interested in that subject also.

    Well, my Michelin Pro Races feel groovy and smooth; my Vittoria Tecnos feel
    kinda bumpy.

    Bill "this /is/ tech, right?" S.

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  4. Email address hidden
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    On Thu, 05 Aug 2004 11:23:48 -0400, [email hidden]

    (George Herbert Walker) said:

    Good grief. How is any of this going to help us get tires for little
    George? Bar and I asked a serious question: how can tires ride "harsh"?
    Instead of answers, we get people telling us about harsh tires that they
    rode, and now, about grammar. Do we have to wait for Brandt to get back
    before anyone can venture a real answer? Or is this NG just a joke? Come
    on.

    [snip more irrelevant bicycle tire questions]

    Dear Herbie,

    I hope that Jobst returns from a happy trip, stumbles over
    this thread, and growls that "bright and shiny" is
    redundant.

    Shine bright . . .

    Shine brightly . . .

    Bright and shiny . . .

    Brightly and shiny . . .

    Brightly and shinily . . .

    Yes, words start to look silly if pondered long enough.

    For anyone who cares, the question is whether shine is
    treated as a linking verb, which requires a predicate noun
    or adjective to rename the subject, or as an intransitive
    verb, which stands alone and indicates an action complete in
    itself, needing neither object (unlike a transitive verb)
    nor predicate adjective or noun (unlike a linking verb).

    A grammarian might argue that stars can simply shine, which
    is an intransitive use that is properly modified by an
    adverb (brightlyl), not an adjective (bright).

    A linguist might argue that the rules arise from observation
    of usage, not the other way around, so if enough of us feel
    comfortable (predicate adjective) with "shine bright" or
    "ride harsh," then that's the way it is (the last four words
    are fun to parse).

    Poets, of course, are licensed to use whichever scans,
    adjective or adverb.

    "Holy Night! Them stars sure are bright'n'shiny!"

    Placide Clappeau (kin to the West Texas Clappeaus)

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  5. Email address hidden
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    On Thu, 05 Aug 2004 11:23:48 -0400, [email hidden]

    (George Herbert Walker) said:

    Good grief. How is any of this going to help us get tires for little
    George? Bar and I asked a serious question: how can tires ride "harsh"?
    Instead of answers, we get people telling us about harsh tires that they
    rode, and now, about grammar. Do we have to wait for Brandt to get back
    before anyone can venture a real answer? Or is this NG just a joke? Come
    on.

    [snip more irrelevant bicycle tire questions]

    Dear Herbie,

    I hope that Jobst returns from a happy trip, stumbles over
    this thread, and growls that "bright and shiny" is
    redundant.

    Shine bright . . .

    Shine brightly . . .

    Bright and shiny . . .

    Brightly and shiny . . .

    Brightly and shinily . . .

    Yes, words start to look silly if pondered long enough.

    For anyone who cares, the question is whether shine is
    treated as a linking verb, which requires a predicate noun
    or adjective to rename the subject, or as an intransitive
    verb, which stands alone and indicates an action complete in
    itself, needing neither object (unlike a transitive verb)
    nor predicate adjective or noun (unlike a linking verb).

    A grammarian might argue that stars can simply shine, which
    is an intransitive use that is properly modified by an
    adverb (brightlyl), not an adjective (bright).

    A linguist might argue that the rules arise from observation
    of usage, not the other way around, so if enough of us feel
    comfortable (predicate adjective) with "shine bright" or
    "ride harsh," then that's the way it is (the last four words
    are fun to parse).

    Poets, of course, are licensed to use whichever scans,
    adjective or adverb.

    "Holy Night! Them stars sure are bright'n'shiny!"

    Placide Clappeau (kin to the West Texas Clappeaus)

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  6. Ralph Bean
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    The difference you are pointing out is between Descriptive and Prescriptive
    Grammar.
    In fact, since English does not have a language academy as do Spanish,
    French, and
    German, there is no central authority which determines correct usage. So
    English
    dictionaries and grammar books are descriptive. They describe what they way
    people speak who are thought to speak correct English, whatever that is. If
    you
    observe a group of English grammarians you will find that "correctness" in
    English
    grammar is elusive.

    Ralph

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    Quoted message said:

    On Thu, 05 Aug 2004 11:23:48 -0400, [email hidden]
    A linguist might argue that the rules arise from observation
    of usage, not the other way around, so if enough of us feel
    comfortable (predicate adjective) with "shine bright" or
    "ride harsh," then that's the way it is (the last four words
    are fun to parse).
    Placide Clappeau (kin to the West Texas Clappeaus)

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  7. Tom Paterson
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    Quoted message said:

    From: "Ralph Bean"

    Quoted message said:

    In fact, since English does not have a language academy as do Spanish,
    French, and
    German, there is no central authority which determines correct usage. So
    English
    dictionaries and grammar books are descriptive.

    Also prescriptive, by inclusion/exlcusion in a given dictionary. You'll see the
    word "standard" used to describe words, expressions, phrases. That's also
    prescriptive, at least by implication that other choices are not "correct".

    Quoted message said:

    If
    you
    observe a group of English grammarians you will find that "correctness" in
    English
    grammar is elusive.

    Of course, each is entitled to their opinion.
    --TP

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  8. John Dacey
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    Quoted message said:

    On Thu, 05 Aug 2004 11:23:48 -0400, [email hidden]

    (George Herbert Walker) said:

    Good grief.


    [snip more irrelevant bicycle tire questions]

    Dear Herbie,

    Quoted message said:

    For anyone who cares, the question is whether shine is
    treated as a linking verb, which requires a predicate noun
    or adjective to rename the subject, or as an intransitive
    verb, which stands alone and indicates an action complete in
    itself, needing neither object (unlike a transitive verb)
    nor predicate adjective or noun (unlike a linking verb).

    Dude, you're parsing on his mellow.

    -------------------------------
    John Dacey
    Business Cycles, Miami, Florida
    Since 1983
    Our catalogue of track equipment: online since 1996.
    http://www.businesscycles.com

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  9. Email address hidden
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    #9
    John Dacey said:
    Quoted message said:

    On Thu, 05 Aug 2004 11:23:48 -0400, [email hidden]

    (George Herbert Walker) said:

    Good grief.


    [snip more irrelevant bicycle tire questions]

    Dear Herbie,

    Quoted message said:

    For anyone who cares, the question is whether shine is
    treated as a linking verb, which requires a predicate noun
    or adjective to rename the subject, or as an intransitive
    verb, which stands alone and indicates an action complete in
    itself, needing neither object (unlike a transitive verb)
    nor predicate adjective or noun (unlike a linking verb).

    Dude, you're parsing on his mellow.

    -------------------------------
    John Dacey
    Business Cycles, Miami, Florida
    Since 1983
    Our catalogue of track equipment: online since 1996.
    http://www.businesscycles.com

    Dear John,

    Had I written more softly and sweetly, I would have been
    marshing on his mallow.

    Candydly,

    Carl Fogel

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  10. Tom Sherman
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    Quoted message said:

    ...A grammarian might argue that stars can simply shine....

    Stars produce photons, the emissions of which can be categorized by
    wavelength and radiant intensity.

    --
    Tom Sherman – Quad City Area

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