How do you guys carry water?

Daniel said:

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Camelback (not necessarily that brand). Much more
comfortable _for me_ than having s.t. flopping around my
waist. However, it does get a bit warm in the summer.

The first camelback I bought (not that brand) filled by
unscrewing something at the bottom. It always leaked. Had a
bad experience running to the bottom of the Grand Canyon, I
think half my drink leaked on the way down. (Notice that I
do not claim to have _run_ back up...) The one I have now
fills at the top, and I've never had a problem with leakage.

If you're worried about weight, you might shop around a
little. I suspect the one I use now is rather heavier than
it needs to be.

Also good for carrying your keys.

Mike McSwell

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I use a holster-style bottle carrier. It came with a 20 oz.
bottle but it works fine with a 24 oz bottle. I loop back to
my car for refills on long trail runs.

I got the one where the bottle is at an angle across
the low back; it also has a small zipper pocket for
gels or whatever.

--Harold Buck

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en it was every other day. . . ."
- Homer J. Simpson

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I use 20oz hand carry bottles whenever possible instead of a
camelback. I dont like things on my back or hips when I'm
running. These bottles have a strap to help you hold them
easily. If the run is under 90 mins I will only carry a
bottle if its hot, or for over 2 hours I will carry 2
bottles. Once you get used to hand carry bottles I think
they are best. You tend to drink more, the body is free,
they are easy to refill with powders, and easier to clean.
When possible I plan for refill spots or do loop circuts so
I can refill them myself.

I experimented during last week's long run with a waist
pack to carry food and extra bottles for longer runs where
no refill is possible. Usually waist packs are a pain
because you have to keep them so tight and they tend to
bounce. An extra strap around the outside seemed to help
last week. Using that pack with 2 hand carry bottles, and 2
bottles in the pack, I can carry 80oz fairly comfortably,
and I could carry up to 4 bottles the same pack. The fuller
the pack is the more of a pain it is, but it empties out
during the run...

I use a camelback sometimes, usually for hiking, but I
always carry a bottle as well because you never know when
the camelback will run out. I get sick of sucking the water
out, especially when running. Did I mention that I really
hate to clean these things? lol.

- Tony

I use a urinary bladder, with an extra large drain hose.

I don't run for very long (yet), but so far I've been
comfortable wearing a cycling jersey and sticking a bottle
in the middle back pocket. I've found that it works better
in my more form-fitting jerseys than in the looser ones.

Jenn Santa Clara, CA

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You didn't indicate how much water or food / gear you'd also
need or summer or winter. That will affect what you use.

My experiments of one:

I tried a handheld a few weeks ago - with mesh holder and
small pocket for electrolyte caps or keys or whatever. I
really hated the sloshing sound, which is inevitable with
arm motion. Note: I run on trails in Alaska, although mostly
in winter. This time of year, there are moose cows and
calves on the trail and potentially bears (calves are a nice
meal for them). I *really* want to be aware of noises in the
brush when I'm running some of the different trails I run in
summer. Unless there's some magic trick to stop the sloshing
noise, I rank a handheld up there with playing music in a
headset, although maybe not that bad 😉 But that's me. Maybe
more experienced people have found a trick to running
quietly with them.

I've had problems with waist belts and bounce in the past,
but had a successful maiden voyage with a UD strider last
evening. sierratradingpost.combase no.Open ↗
82658/dept_id./est.strider/qx/product.htm You can probably
ignore the "for women" note since REI had cornflower blue
ones labelled "for women" and black ones labelled "for
men" - other than that I couldn't tell the difference. I
got the black from STP, since I couldn't imagine
cornflower blue on a trail.

While the waist belt itself is narrow, the pocket and
holster are on wide webbing. The holster is a diagonal one
so it fits the small of my back better. The pocket holds my
camera with room for energy bars, electrolyte caps, or
whatever. It's designed to be worn over the hip (either
one), so the pocket might be in front and the bottle in back
counter-balancing each other (or vice versa). I didn't
notice any bounce last night, *and* I didn't have to have
the belt as tight as I've had on other waist belts in the
past - that is, I could still breathe - and my camera was
real handy. The only real drawback last night was that I
don't like drinking from bottles - these newer UD ones open
wider than the old ones but close more readily, like while
I'm drinking (I'm a sucker, not a pourer, although I tried
pouring without much luck last night). I'll use one of the
older bottles on next run. Bottles seem to require more
talent than I have, so I'll probably always favor hydration
bladders 😉

I recently got a camelbak Lobo (70oz) for 1-3 hr good
weather summer runs not needing much gear. Most of the newer
cb's have 3/4 inch waist straps, which is too narrow to
attach some of the pockets I've used in the past (on my
cloudwalker). The patch pocket on top (out of reach) holds
my camera (Canon S410) and gps, larger bottom pocket holds
food, tp, some first aid stuff. Shell fits under elastic
cords and is covered by the top flap. (If I had one of those
spiffy 3 oz shells, it would fit in the bottom pocket, I
think.) When I've got some time on my hands I'm considering
replacing the waist strap with a wider one - it's removable,
but the attachment buckle is 3/4 inch, so I need to change
that. I'm considering getting another strider and seeing if
that can be attached at waist - that pocket is just the
right size.

And last, but favorite, is my tried and trusty, almost carry
the kitchen sink with me, cb Cloudwalker (old model) (70oz).
This has the old 1.5 inch waist belt where I can carry a
CommPak with camera. The shoulder straps and sternum straps
are more adjustable than newer ones, and I can attach some
things on top the shoulder straps (out of way of arm
motion). For winter runs, I can carry another insulating
layer plus top and bottom shells in main compartment and
food, spare batteries, map, compass, first aid, etc in the
one small pocket (would prefer 2 pockets for this).

In winter, I think the cb's are easier to keep from
freezing, but you need to remember to blow fluid back in
bladder and drink every 15 min or so to be on safe side
so that it doesn't freeze. (I was always having trouble
with slushies plugging the mouthpieces on water bottles,
but never thought of carrying them upside down at the
time. Frozen water bottles was a main reason for switch
to cb's) As far as I can tell, cb's are weapon of choice
in Alaskan winter.

A couple general notes on cb's: I think all the new, lighter
ones (say Mule and lighter) have the 3/4 inch waist belt,
which isn't too bad unless you want to attach a convenient
pocket for camera or food. I keep the belt loose to not
interfere with breathing. Most have lost flexibility on
positioning the sternum strap - may not be a big deal for
guys, but many of them had awkward positioning for me. When
you get up to size of Rim Runner and above, they have a
"frame" that holds the pack away from your body to allow air
flow - but that adds a lot of weight for running. Many of
the lighter packs have wicking mesh (not necessarily any
place to wick the moisture to) or a channelized back to
allow airflow. Some of the other brands are using the newer,
lighter fabrics resulting in much lighter packs, but I
didn't see any I really liked there either.

For most of my runs (mostly in winter) I use the Stoaway
insulated bladder inside my Cloudwalker, primarily to keep
fluids from freezing. That also provides a relatively rigid
structure for the bladder so inserting it in pack and
cleaning are quite easy. I could never figure out what
people were complaining about with cleaning the bladder and
some other issues until I started using a non-insulated one
and it just flops around.

I'm sure that's more than you ever wanted to know about
carrying water, but I've been testing some new stuff in the
last month or so, so thought I'd post it 🙂

Dot testing new gear is mental therapy for having race
cancelled

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"Success is different things to different people" -Bernd
Heinrich in Racing the Antelope

I use a waist belt and carry a foil pack of whatever energy
driink I can get my hands on - a 330ml drink and my house
keys fit in fine.

The banging is as irritating as hell for the first mile or
two, then I seem to forget about it. I need to keep the
pocket on the front though - if I put it on a hip it seems
to kill my stride.

If I'm running a real long training run (like 20+ miles) I
sometimes just carry money and buy drinks on the way - it's
an excellent excuse to stop for a break.

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I use something that is quite unique in this group. I call
it "my bladder", it serves me well up to 9 miles a day in
just about any heat. Drink GA or another sports drink along
with LOTS of water (8oz every 20 minutes)and you shouldn't
need to carry any. Longer runs, just do like my friends and
I do, drink your whizz. Sure it's tricky aiming for your
mouth as you run, but it makes for great small talk at the
food tables, but for some reason people thin out rapidly
when we approach. But that's just more for us!

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For shorter runs, I use an Ultimate Direction Quickdraw. I
just bought one of these from Fuel Belt for my long runs:
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far. I tried a Camelbak waistpack model which I could not
get tight enough around my waist. That resulted in an
annoying bounce that forced me to return it. The Camelbak
backpack models are out of the question for me. They are too
hot, and the straps chafe a runner too easily. They are
really better suited for cyclists.

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I don't. Get properly hydrated the day before and on the
day, and for anything less than 20 miles (or 15 if it's
really hot) you should be fine. Well, I am anyway.

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Camel packs are awesome. Have used one for all my long runs.

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I don't. If I reaaly need water (which is rare) I'll stash a
water bottle somewhere (my front porch, a park) and run by
it. I'll run north and back, drink. East and back, drink.
You get the picture.

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I know where the water fountains are!

Jenn said:

I don't run for very long (yet), but so far I've been
comfortable wearing a cycling jersey and sticking a bottle
in the middle back pocket. I've found that it works better
in my more form-fitting jerseys than in the looser ones.

Jenn Santa Clara, CA

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I don't run for very long (yet), but so far I've been
comfortable wearing a cycling jersey and sticking a bottle
in the middle back pocket. I've found that it works better
in my more form-fitting jerseys than in the looser ones.

I've tried that and didn't like the bouncing. My bottle
carrier really cuts down on the bouncing.

Some people like the whole "fuel belt" thing, but that seems
like a little more hassle than it's worth to me.

--Harold Buck

"I used to rock and roll all night, and party every day. Th-
en it was every other day. . . ."
- Homer J. Simpson

For my long run Sat I'm going to try a cycling jersey for
gels and energy bars, and use hand carry bottle(s). I don't
think I'd put a full bottle in the jersey pocket, but when
most of it is gone then it should work fine.

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I don't run for very long (yet), but so far I've been
comfortable wearing a cycling jersey and sticking a bottle
in the middle back pocket. I've found that it works better
in my more form-fitting jerseys than in the looser ones.

Jenn Santa Clara, CA

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I've used a waist belt for years. If you cinch it up real
tight it won't flop around.

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I don't. Get properly hydrated the day before and on the
day, and for anything less than 20 miles (or 15 if it's
really hot) you should be fine. Well, I am anyway.

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FINALLY! Another bladder user. I thought I was the only one
here who knows how to train properly.

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I don't. Get properly hydrated the day before and on the
day, and for anything less than 20 miles (or 15 if it's
really hot) you should be fine. Well, I am anyway.

Edward
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I don't. Get properly hydrated the day before and on the
day, and for anything less than 20 miles (or 15 if it's
really hot) you should be fine. Well, I am anyway.

It makes all the difference if you running at 90-degrees and
90% humidity or 60 degrees and dry. I can easily sweat a
liter or two in 30 minutes in the firstand end up with
sopping wet clothes and shoes.

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I don't. Get properly hydrated the day before and on the
day, and for anything less than 20 miles (or 15 if it's
really hot) you should be fine. Well, I am anyway.

Pretty much all I can say to that is "yikes!"

For me, anything longer than 30-40 minutes and I'm carrying
water. I'll alternate between wearing a "fuel belt" (which
has the capacity to carry up to 7 7-oz. bottles) or a two-
bottle pack from Ultimate. Both work very well for me.

Mike C

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