How do you log rides?

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Patrick Lamb said:

I spend too much time thinking up interesting things to calculate or
plot, and too little time riding.

If you're into computer programming -- get out of it
while you can. If not -- don't get into it. It's a
soul-sucking, Hawkingesque black hole that'll divert
you from Life, like the quest for profit did to
Ebenezer Scrooge.

Screw determinants/matrices! Screw graphs & charts,
and quadratic equations and trigonometry and vectors
and limits!

Let other people willingly burn themselves out over
that falderall.

Life is more to be lived, than thought about.

Dare to eat a peach (although sometimes I prefer
to use a knife & fork, myself.)

cheers,
Tom

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> For those who are interested, you can download a free, fully

functional,

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> 30-day trial version of CycliStats from the website

Doesn't function at all for me. Next time, at least say it's
Windows-only.

The system requirements are listed on the download page.

I saw. I would just have liked some indication of that in your post so
I wouldn't have to bother going to a site that is useless to me.

Sorry I cost a couple of clicks out of your life.

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What's your OS? Newer Macs are capable of running Windows apps, and I

have

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several customers who are running the program that way..

While Apple hardware can run Windows, Mac OS X cannot run your app as
far as I know. I really hope you're not suggesting that your program is
so awesome that to buy it people should also pay even more for a [censored]
OS and reboot every time they run it.

Depending on the emulator, rebooting's not necessary. As for the
"awesomeness" of CycliStats, the Mac users' I've talked to have agreed that
it's a really nice piece of software (better than anything available for the
Mac OS according to the folks I've talked to).

As for paying even more for Windows - I suspect the Mac users who are
running CycliStats didn't purchase a Windows emulator just for CycliStats.
Most likely, they've chosen to have Windows available on their Macs in order
to take advantage of some of the thousands of useful, easy-to-use programs
that are available on Windows (and now, finally, available for the Mac).

FWIW, I would love to provide a Mac version of CycliStats, but the program
is a part-time labor of love, and I just don't have the time to dedicate to
such a small market segment (especially now that the Windows-on-Mac option
is becoming available, and PC's have gotten so cheap). I have a full-time
job, a girlfriend, and a bike to ride, so finding the time to do a Mac port
is just not in the cards (when I researched it a few years ago, I estimated
that it would be at least 1000 hours of work).

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I haven't tried Wine, so maybe
Linux can do it better; mention it if that is the case. Regardless, all
I was asking was for some actual technical details in the middle of the
marketing.

Oh...Linux. <irony mode=on>Well, on that platform you should easily be able
to find one of the many free open source alternatives.<irony mode=off>

Seriously, I have no idea whether or not CycliStats would run under Wine.
Based on what I've heard about the stability of Windows programs running
under Wine, I would not be optimistic...but it might be worth a shot.

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I haven't tried Wine, so maybe
Linux can do it better; mention it if that is the case. Regardless, all
I was asking was for some actual technical details in the middle of the
marketing.

Oh...Linux. <irony mode=on>Well, on that platform you should easily be able
to find one of the many free open source alternatives.<irony mode=off>

With OSS and some artistic Vertical Development using available
tools, one doesn't need to install a prefabricated application.

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I haven't tried Wine, so maybe
Linux can do it better; mention it if that is the case. Regardless,

all

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I was asking was for some actual technical details in the middle of the
marketing.

Oh...Linux. <irony mode=on>Well, on that platform you should easily be

able

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to find one of the many free open source alternatives.<irony mode=off>

With OSS and some artistic Vertical Development using available
tools, one doesn't need to install a prefabricated application.

You've left out one important required component - Time.

By way of comparison, with a few seeds and some simple tools, I could grow
all of my family's grain and vegetables. But, most of us value our time
enough to pay others for the things that we find useful, and that can save
us time to pursue other interests (like, bike riding).

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cheers,
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GaryG said:

Sorry I cost a couple of clicks out of your life.

Sorry my lesson in customer service and marketing is being lost on you.

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Depending on the emulator, rebooting's not necessary. As for the
"awesomeness" of CycliStats, the Mac users' I've talked to have agreed that
it's a really nice piece of software (better than anything available for the
Mac OS according to the folks I've talked to).

So you're saying that you *only* want me to give you $50 for your
software if I'm first willing to give $200 to MS and $80 to Parallels?
Look I wasn't asking you to insanely justify spending money, I was
simply asking that you put the least little bit about platform support
when you post.

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Oh...Linux. <irony mode=on>Well, on that platform you should easily be able
to find one of the many free open source alternatives.<irony mode=off>

I believe you meant to use the sarcasm tag, but what *is* ironic is that
you call your effort a labor of love and yet deride open source instead
of releasing your program that way. Going that route would be a
reasonable answer to not spending thousands of hours of further effort
yourself. Since you're charging $50, it seems reasonable to consider
your efforts more of a business and, as such, it doesn't seem too much
for me to say that listing platform support should be a basic part of
your pitch.

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Seriously, I have no idea whether or not CycliStats would run under Wine.
Based on what I've heard about the stability of Windows programs running
under Wine, I would not be optimistic...but it might be worth a shot.

Personally, I'm not optimistic about the stability of Windows programs
running under *Windows*. Thanks for the perfect setup on that joke!
Seriously, you need to stress less about this. Your response should
have just been a simple "Good point. I'll add that next time."

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So how do you keep track of your rides? (Do you?) What's important
enough to log -- time, distance, ride profile, max/min speed or pulse
-- and why do you log it? What do you do with it when you're done?

I used to keep a paper log book, but I've switched to a spreadsheet this year
(with my 2006 data pulled in for reference/motivation). Just daily mileage,
with automatic computing of monthly and yearly totals on the fly. I suppose if
a really notable incident occurred (getting hit, dying, etc.) I'd note that
somewhere in an open cell.

I also grab the .gpx files that my handheld GPS units generates as it auto-
saves my tracks while riding. I can pull these up in Garmin MapSource or Google
Earth later on to see where I rode on a given day (or to share the routes with
friends).

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Patrick Lamb said:

So how do you keep track of your rides? (Do you?) What's important
enough to log -- time, distance, ride profile, max/min speed or pulse
-- and why do you log it? What do you do with it when you're done?

I wrote a collection of Perl scripts that store ride data in a relational
database and turn it into nifty tables and graphs:

http://reidster.net/logs/bike.html

I also use my GPS to collect tracks of novel routes, and I hang onto those
to see where I've been.

Yes, I'm a big nerd. 😉

Reid

Reid Priedhorsky said:

Patrick Lamb said:

So how do you keep track of your rides? (Do you?) What's important
enough to log -- time, distance, ride profile, max/min speed or pulse
-- and why do you log it? What do you do with it when you're done?

I wrote a collection of Perl scripts that store ride data in a relational
database and turn it into nifty tables and graphs:

http://reidster.net/logs/bike.html

I also use my GPS to collect tracks of novel routes, and I hang onto those
to see where I've been.

Yes, I'm a big nerd. 😉

Reid

Looks nice. Care to share the scripts?

Patrick Lamb said:

I really didn't start seriously logging anything until 3-4 years ago.
Before that, odometer readings at the end of each year were good
enough. In 2005, I got a desk calendar and started noting miles and a
short description of each ride. That made for a nice day at the end
of the year, when I spent a rainy afternoon entering everything into a
spreadsheet (boring) and reliving the best rides from jotted notes
(definitely not boring!).

Trouble with having a spreadsheet is, you keep going. So last year I
logged everything in a desk calendar, and also put it in the
spreadsheet, thinking of more or less interesting things to plot, and
then watching the plots carefully. It helped some with motivation, as
I went from a personal record of 3,000 miles to a new personal record
of 5,000 miles for the year. But I missed that day of reminiscing --
sort of like getting a cyclocomputer can lead to too much interest in
watching the numbers flash, and not enough interest in the ride.

So how do you keep track of your rides? (Do you?) What's important
enough to log -- time, distance, ride profile, max/min speed or pulse
-- and why do you log it? What do you do with it when you're done?

Pat
Email address works as is.

iCal, comes standard on my mac..a calender to log what you did(not MUCH
these cold snowy days)...then print it out after each month.

joe said:

Reid Priedhorsky said:

I wrote a collection of Perl scripts that store ride data in a relational
database and turn it into nifty tables and graphs:

http://reidster.net/logs/bike.html

I also use my GPS to collect tracks of novel routes, and I hang onto those
to see where I've been.

Yes, I'm a big nerd. 😉

Reid

Looks nice. Care to share the scripts?

I'd be happy to share.

However, there is a strong caveat in that they are not well-documented or
easy to use by any means. Installing them would require knowledge of both
PostgreSQL and Perl, and probably UNIX (while in principle both Postgres
and Perl run on other systems, I don't know what would be required to port
the scripts). (Anyone who wants to fix these issues is welcome to...)

With that in mind, let me know if you are still interested and I will
package them up and post them on my website.

Take care,

Reid

Reid Priedhorsky said:

joe said:

Reid Priedhorsky said:

I wrote a collection of Perl scripts that store ride data in a
relational database and turn it into nifty tables and graphs:

http://reidster.net/logs/bike.html

I also use my GPS to collect tracks of novel routes, and I hang onto
those to see where I've been.

Yes, I'm a big nerd. 😉

Reid

Looks nice. Care to share the scripts?

I'd be happy to share.

However, there is a strong caveat in that they are not well-documented or
easy to use by any means. Installing them would require knowledge of both
PostgreSQL and Perl, and probably UNIX (while in principle both Postgres
and Perl run on other systems, I don't know what would be required to port
the scripts). (Anyone who wants to fix these issues is welcome to...)

With that in mind, let me know if you are still interested and I will
package them up and post them on my website.

Take care,

Reid

My main activity is with JSP/Postgresql with some supporting Perl CGI. The
target system is FreeBSD with PostgreSQL 8.0.7

I would like to give it a try.

joe said:

Reid Priedhorsky said:

joe said:

Reid Priedhorsky wrote:
>
>
> I wrote a collection of Perl scripts that store ride data in a
> relational database and turn it into nifty tables and graphs:
>
> http://reidster.net/logs/bike.html
>
> I also use my GPS to collect tracks of novel routes, and I hang onto
> those to see where I've been.
>
> Yes, I'm a big nerd. 😉
>
> Reid

Looks nice. Care to share the scripts?

I'd be happy to share.

However, there is a strong caveat in that they are not well-documented or
easy to use by any means. Installing them would require knowledge of both
PostgreSQL and Perl, and probably UNIX (while in principle both Postgres
and Perl run on other systems, I don't know what would be required to port
the scripts). (Anyone who wants to fix these issues is welcome to...)

With that in mind, let me know if you are still interested and I will
package them up and post them on my website.

Take care,

Reid

My main activity is with JSP/Postgresql with some supporting Perl CGI. The
target system is FreeBSD with PostgreSQL 8.0.7

I would like to give it a try.

me too(teehee).........;-p

qui si parla Campagnolo said:

joe said:

My main activity is with JSP/Postgresql with some supporting Perl CGI. The
target system is FreeBSD with PostgreSQL 8.0.7

I would like to give it a try.

me too(teehee).........;-p

Wonderful! Interest from not one but two people. Makes my day. 🙂

Please see <http://reidster.net/software/> and download rlog.tar.gz. It is
all GPLed, so feel free to hack away.

I use PostgreSQL 7.4, but I don't expect any significant problems with 8.0.

Let me know if you have any questions.

Take care,

Reid

I log my rides on BikeJournal at <a href="http://bikejournal.com"
target="_blank">BikeJournal.com</a>.