I ran the Long Beach marathon yesterday. More like, I sweated the Long Beach marathon yesterday. It was 71 when the gun sounded and in the 80's by noon. Seemed awfully hot to be doing a marathon. How much does heat like that affect performance? Personally, I was fine until about mile 17. At that point the course turned onto a wide, light concrete highway with out a trace of shade. It seemed like running in an oven. There was at least one person prostrate on the cement and the paramedics were out in force.
I don't know why they don't wait until November to have this marathon. It was hot last year as well, though not this hot. Two years ago, it was postponed until November and the temperatures were much, much cooler.
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I ran the Long Beach marathon yesterday. More like, I sweated the Long Beach marathon yesterday. It was 71 when the gun sounded and in the 80's by noon. Seemed awfully hot to be doing a marathon. How much does heat like that affect performance? Personally, I was fine until about mile 17. At that point the course turned onto a wide, light concrete highway with out a trace of shade. It seemed like running in an oven. There was at least one person prostrate on the cement and the paramedics were out in force.
I don't know why they don't wait until November to have this marathon. It was hot last year as well, though not this hot. Two years ago, it was postponed until November and the temperatures were much, much cooler.
In terms of absolute performance, it is reached approximately 45-55F. Some people deal with temps better, but 70+ is brutal for most in a marathon. Andy Hass
charles i like running in the heat / my bro race in middle east @ 121 degrees / i can go 106 at 33 miles with water plodzilla from texas
Charlie Schwartz said:
I ran the Long Beach marathon yesterday. More like, I sweated the Long Beach marathon yesterday. It was 71 when the gun sounded and in the 80's by noon. Seemed awfully hot to be doing a marathon. How much does heat like that affect performance? Personally, I was fine until about mile 17. At that point the course turned onto a wide, light concrete highway with out a trace of shade. It seemed like running in an oven. There was at least one person prostrate on the cement and the paramedics were out in force.
I don't know why they don't wait until November to have this marathon. It was hot last year as well, though not this hot. Two years ago, it was postponed until November and the temperatures were much, much cooler.
There was at least one person prostrate on the cement and the paramedics were out in force.
Just think about the Badwater folks - 135 mi through Death Valley on hot pavement. I think air temperatures reach 120F with asphalt temperatures being a little higher. Judging from race reports, *many* ultras are run in 80+F - even in Alaska.
Actually, there are ways to heat train that those people use.
Dot
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In terms of absolute performance, it is reached approximately 45-55F. Some people deal with temps better, but 70+ is brutal for most in a marathon.
Try running all day in a 100 mile race with temps of high 80's and humidity to match. And then there's Badwater 135 mile race that will test even those that love the heat.
If nothing else I have solid understanding of carbs and electrolytes at least as they relate to me. I only wish I had that knowledge when I ran my early road marathons. One of my last marathons was Burlington when the temps went into the 90's. I had my salt caps and managed to maintain 8 minute miles while the medical tent had wall to wall bodies. If it wasn't for this experience I'm not sure if I would have finished sans an IV.
And then there's Badwater 135 mile race that will test even those that love the heat.
And even those can come a serious cropper. See the colleague from work/the club who did it this year and had 42°C body temp (yes you're reading it right) after less than 20k of the race, due to vomiting (thanx ice cold coke amongst other factors).
This guy has finished the Spartathlon, Sand Marathons and heaven knows what else and he HATES everything except blistering heat, but got himself into a life-threating state in the 50°C+ temps of Badwater race. badwaterultra.comvozel.htmlOpen ↗
I ran the Long Beach marathon yesterday. More like, I sweated the Long Beach marathon yesterday. It was 71 when the gun sounded and in the 80's by noon. Seemed awfully hot to be doing a marathon. How much does heat like that affect performance?
Galloway gives some approximate values he's observed - in Gallows(sic) Book on Running
Temp at arrival reduction in speed 12°5-15°5 C 1% 15°5-18° C 3% 18°-21° C 5% 21-24°C 7% 24-26°5 C 12% 26°5-29°5 20% above 29°C don't even think about it
Clearly the man is not from the mediterranean basin, where you get nothing below 30 for a decent part of the year :->
FWIW The temps this July when I did the 240k stage race were up to 42°C in the shade, in the late afternoon
Try running all day in a 100 mile race with temps of high 80's and humidity to match. And then there's Badwater 135 mile race that will test even those that love the heat.
Before taking up running, I "walked" 70 miles with it up in the 90's during the day.
It's in quotes, because on this or any long walk it's necessary to do much of it by running in order to rest from walking. I've never gone more than 30 miles without having to start running at some point.
Galloway gives some approximate values he's observed - in Gallows(sic) Book on Running Temp at arrival reduction in speed 12°5-15°5 C 1% 15°5-18° C 3% 18°-21° C 5% 21-24°C 7% 24-26°5 C 12% 26°5-29°5 20% above 29°C don't even think about it
Generally, my fastest times have occurred around 70°F (> 20°C), and for shorter distances optimum is around 95-100°F (35°C), or probably higher.
I can barely even run under 15°C anymore, and have never been able to go fast when it's that cold without serious problems breathing. This also complicates indoor running (except in the summer where there's no air conditioning), since most places like to keep the temperature down in the 70's or so.
