How many patches is too many?

[Pete Biggs]

PUSHERBOT wrote:
> To go off subject slightly,
>
> Are expensive tubes any better than £1 bought-in-bulk jobbies?

They don't tend to be more durable, ime. I only bother paying a bit more
to save some weight with ultralight tubes.

~PB

 

[Jim Price]

Pete Biggs wrote:
> PUSHERBOT wrote:
>> To go off subject slightly,
>>
>> Are expensive tubes any better than £1 bought-in-bulk jobbies?
>
> They don't tend to be more durable, ime. I only bother paying a bit more
> to save some weight with ultralight tubes.

I have a pair of the latex ones which are much lighter, but I seem to
end up only carrying them as small lightweight spares, as I can't quite
bring myself to make regular use of inner tubes which cost more that my
tyres. also, the things don't hold air for very long compared to butyl ones.

JimP

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grapple with the ineffable itself, and see if we may not eff it after
all. - DNA

 

[Pete Biggs]

Jim Price wrote:

> I have a pair of the latex ones which are much lighter, but I seem to
> end up only carrying them as small lightweight spares, as I can't
> quite bring myself to make regular use of inner tubes which cost more
> that my tyres. also, the things don't hold air for very long compared
> to butyl ones.

Talking about expensive tubes, I can't afford /not/ to patch my Conti
Supersonic ones. They're stupid-light butyl at 50 grams for 700x18-25.
That's lighter than latex! The material is so thin it punctures for no
apparent reason after while -- tiny weeny holes develop on rim-side.
Velox tape too rough for it?

These hold air longer than latex but of course not as long as normal
butyl.

~PB

 

[Jim Price]

Pete Biggs wrote:
> Jim Price wrote:
>
>> I have a pair of the latex ones which are much lighter, but I seem to
>> end up only carrying them as small lightweight spares, as I can't
>> quite bring myself to make regular use of inner tubes which cost more
>> that my tyres. also, the things don't hold air for very long compared
>> to butyl ones.
>
> Talking about expensive tubes, I can't afford /not/ to patch my Conti
> Supersonic ones. They're stupid-light butyl at 50 grams for 700x18-25.

Phwoar! Do you have stupid-light patches for them?

> That's lighter than latex! The material is so thin it punctures for no
> apparent reason after while -- tiny weeny holes develop on rim-side.
> Velox tape too rough for it?

D'oh!

> These hold air longer than latex but of course not as long as normal
> butyl.

There is bound to come a point where the patches weigh as much as the
tube...

JimP

--
Let's think the unthinkable, let's do the undoable, let's prepare to
grapple with the ineffable itself, and see if we may not eff it after
all. - DNA

 

[Pete Biggs]

Jim Price wrote:

>> Talking about expensive tubes, I can't afford /not/ to patch my Conti
>> Supersonic ones. They're stupid-light butyl at 50 grams for
>> 700x18-25.
>
> Phwoar! Do you have stupid-light patches for them?

The ones I got from Mike Dyason's are nice 'n' thin

>> That's lighter than latex! The material is so thin it punctures for
>> no apparent reason after while -- tiny weeny holes develop on
>> rim-side. Velox tape too rough for it?
>
> D'oh!
>
>> These hold air longer than latex but of course not as long as normal
>> butyl.
>
> There is bound to come a point where the patches weigh as much as the
> tube...

I hope there comes a point where I stop buying silly things like these
tubes ;-)

~PB

 

[Arthur Clune]

Pete Biggs wrote:

> Talking about expensive tubes, I can't afford /not/ to patch my Conti
> Supersonic ones. They're stupid-light butyl at 50 grams for 700x18-25.

I've tried these and now put them in the "stupid light" category. There's
no point in having a 10g lighter wheel if you puncture in a race.

I use Vitorria ones bought in bulk. I also never patch them, just bin
them. I do however patch my MTB tubes (since you puncture much more)
and my commuter bike. The main difference for me is that I've averaged
<2 punctures/year on my road bikes for the last few years and it's
much easier to patch high volume, low pressure tyres.

Arthur

--
Arthur Clune

 

[Zog The Undeniable]

David Martin wrote:
> dkahn400 wrote:
>
>>Tim Downie wrote:
>>
>>>After a visit from the p*nct*re fairy the other day, I found that my spare
>>>tube had four patches that I had forgotten about. Nevertheless, it did the
>>>job until the fairy visited me *again* just two mile later. :-(
>>>
>>>Anyway, now it has five patches and I got to wondering, just when do you
>>>give up on a tube? What's the record for most patches on one tube?
>>
>>I've counted 14 on a single tube.
>
>
> Was that on a single ride?

I patched a tube 5 times on a particularly thorn-strewn MTB ride, then
had no punctures for 12 years.

I had one on Saturday though (road bike). Nothing embedded in the tyre,
so must have been glass.

 

[Martin Bulmer]

PUSHERBOT wrote:
> To go off subject slightly,
>
> Are expensive tubes any better than £1 bought-in-bulk jobbies?

bulk jobbies - colons? Same subject.
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Martin Bulmer