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  1. It seems that Rasmussen denies he was in Italy and isn't going to take
    the recent situation Cassani provoked lying down

    He'll most probably be suing for damages

    And Davey hopes he gets plenty

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  2. On Jul 26, 10:29 am, Davey Crockett <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    It seems that Rasmussen denies he was in Italy and isn't going to take
    the recent situation Cassani provoked lying down

    Dumbass -

    He'd have to be able to prove that he was in Mexico. Credit card
    charges on airline tickets, credit card charges in Mexico itself -
    real evidence.

    If he wasn't in Mexico, that evidence won't exist and he won't have a
    case. If he *was* in Mexico, then he'll be getting plenty.

    I'll speculate that he wasn't in Mexico.

    thanks,

    K. Gringioni.

  3. Kurgan Gringioni said:

    On Jul 26, 10:29 am, Davey Crockett <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    It seems that Rasmussen denies he was in Italy and isn't going to take
    the recent situation Cassani provoked lying down

    Quoted message said:

    I'll speculate that he wasn't in Mexico.

    I sort of agree there

    But it would be one Heck of a Gas if he was right

    Quoted message said:

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  4. On Jul 26, 2:03 pm, Davey Crockett <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:
    Kurgan Gringioni said:

    On Jul 26, 10:29 am, Davey Crockett <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    It seems that Rasmussen denies he was in Italy and isn't going to take
    the recent situation Cassani provoked lying down

    Quoted message said:

    I'll speculate that he wasn't in Mexico.

    I sort of agree there

    But it would be one Heck of a Gas if he was right

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    Davey Crockett - No 4Q to Reply

    He has not once since his departure suggested his team are in error
    and that he was as suspected in Mexico all along.

    So, stop dreaming because he was NOT in Mexico.

  5. "Kurgan Gringioni" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    I'll speculate that he wasn't in Mexico.

    My guess is Annunziata Hotel on the Piazza Repubblica 5.
    That's just off the Via Garibaldi in Ferrara Italy.

  6. Quoted message said:

    On Jul 26, 2:03 pm, Davey Crockett <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:
    Kurgan Gringioni said:

    On Jul 26, 10:29 am, Davey Crockett <[email hidden]>
    wrote:
    > It seems that Rasmussen denies he was in Italy and isn't going to take
    > the recent situation Cassani provoked lying down

    Quoted message said:

    I'll speculate that he wasn't in Mexico.

    I sort of agree there

    But it would be one Heck of a Gas if he was right

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    Davey Crockett - No 4Q to Reply

    He has not once since his departure suggested his team are in error
    and that he was as suspected in Mexico all along.

    So, stop dreaming because he was NOT in Mexico.

    You must have been watching a different feed than I

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    Davey Crockett - No 4Q to Reply

  7. Quoted message said:

    On Jul 26, 2:03 pm, Davey Crockett <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:
    Kurgan Gringioni said:

    On Jul 26, 10:29 am, Davey Crockett <[email hidden]>
    wrote:
    > It seems that Rasmussen denies he was in Italy and isn't going to take
    > the recent situation Cassani provoked lying down

    Quoted message said:

    I'll speculate that he wasn't in Mexico.

    I sort of agree there

    But it would be one Heck of a Gas if he was right

    --
    Davey Crockett - No 4Q to Reply

    He has not once since his departure suggested his team are in error
    and that he was as suspected in Mexico all along.

    So, stop dreaming because he was NOT in Mexico.

    "It's the work of a desperate man who is at the end of his nerves,"
    Rasmussen told the paper's website. "My boss is mad. I wasn't in
    Italy, no way. That's the story of one man (former cyclist and now an
    Italian television presenter Davide Cassani) who thinks he saw me. But
    there's not the slightest proof." -- Rasmussen Today

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    Davey Crockett - No 4Q to Reply

  8. On Jul 26, 10:29 am, Davey Crockett <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    It seems that Rasmussen denies he was in Italy and isn't going to take
    the recent situation Cassani provoked lying down

    He'll most probably be suing for damages

    And Davey hopes he gets plenty

    Interesting... who will he sue? On what grounds? And in which
    jurisdiction?

    I expect we'll hear some periodic harrumphing, diminishing in
    frequency, with Rasmussen promising that he'll eventually get it all
    off his chest, because he has much to say... when Denmark is ready to
    hear (or someone is interested enough to pay good money).

  9. On Jul 26, 12:29 pm, Davey Crockett <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    On Jul 26, 2:03 pm, Davey Crockett <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    Kurgan Gringioni <[email hidden]> writes:
    > On Jul 26, 10:29 am, Davey Crockett <[email hidden]>
    > wrote:
    >> It seems that Rasmussen denies he was in Italy and isn't going to take
    >> the recent situation Cassani provoked lying down

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > I'll speculate that he wasn't in Mexico.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I sort of agree there

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    But it would be one Heck of a Gas if he was right

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

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    Davey Crockett - No 4Q to Reply

    Quoted message said:

    He has not once since his departure suggested his team are in error
    and that he was as suspected in Mexico all along.

    Quoted message said:

    So, stop dreaming because he was NOT in Mexico.

    "It's the work of a desperate man who is at the end of his nerves,"
    Rasmussen told the paper's website. "My boss is mad. I wasn't in
    Italy, no way. That's the story of one man (former cyclist and now an
    Italian television presenter Davide Cassani) who thinks he saw me. But
    there's not the slightest proof." -- Rasmussen Today

    --
    Davey Crockett - No 4Q to Reply

    If I were falsely accused of being in a certain country at a certain
    time, I would be showing my passport to anyone willing to look at it.
    I don't think that's going to happen in this case.

    Bret

  10. Davey Crockett said:

    It seems that Rasmussen denies he was in Italy and isn't going to take
    the recent situation Cassani provoked lying down

    He'll most probably be suing for damages

    And Davey hopes he gets plenty

    He missed 4 random doping tests. He failed to notify teams of his
    whereabouts. He has no grounds. He violated the UCI rules and probably
    should not have started the tour. There seems to be very little support
    for him amongst other riders. If the other riders have to submit for the
    tests, why should he not have to?

    The only suit I can seem him winning is suing the team for letting him
    start the tour and getting his hopes up.

  11. On Jul 26, 11:29 am, Davey Crockett <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    On Jul 26, 2:03 pm, Davey Crockett <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    Kurgan Gringioni <[email hidden]> writes:
    > On Jul 26, 10:29 am, Davey Crockett <[email hidden]>
    > wrote:
    >> It seems that Rasmussen denies he was in Italy and isn't going to take
    >> the recent situation Cassani provoked lying down

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > I'll speculate that he wasn't in Mexico.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I sort of agree there

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    But it would be one Heck of a Gas if he was right

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    --
    Davey Crockett - No 4Q to Reply

    Quoted message said:

    He has not once since his departure suggested his team are in error
    and that he was as suspected in Mexico all along.

    Quoted message said:

    So, stop dreaming because he was NOT in Mexico.

    "It's the work of a desperate man who is at the end of his nerves,"
    Rasmussen told the paper's website. "My boss is mad. I wasn't in
    Italy, no way. That's the story of one man (former cyclist and now an
    Italian television presenter Davide Cassani) who thinks he saw me. But
    there's not the slightest proof." -- Rasmussen Today

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    Davey Crockett - No 4Q to Reply- Hide quoted text -

    - Show quoted text -

    No matter. President Bush just pardoned him and ordered him not to
    testify anywhere under executive privilege.

  12. Bret said:

    If I were falsely accused of being in a certain country at a certain
    time, I would be showing my passport to anyone willing to look at it.
    I don't think that's going to happen in this case.

    He lost it ?

  13. Donald Munro said:
    Bret said:

    If I were falsely accused of being in a certain country at a certain
    time, I would be showing my passport to anyone willing to look at it.
    I don't think that's going to happen in this case.

    He lost it ?

    I travel quite frequently

    I also don't have a single stamp in my passport although they are
    sometimes scanned electronically

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    Davey Crockett - No 4Q to Reply

  14. Fabrizio Mazzoleni said:

    "Kurgan Gringioni" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I'll speculate that he wasn't in Mexico.

    My guess is Annunziata Hotel on the Piazza Repubblica 5.
    That's just off the Via Garibaldi in Ferrara Italy.

    The real question is - where were you Fabrizio?

  15. Quoted message said:

    On Jul 26, 10:29 am, Davey Crockett <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    It seems that Rasmussen denies he was in Italy and isn't going to take
    the recent situation Cassani provoked lying down

    Quoted message said:

    He'll most probably be suing for damages

    Quoted message said:

    And Davey hopes he gets plenty

    Interesting... who will he sue? On what grounds? And in which
    jurisdiction?

    I expect we'll hear some periodic harrumphing, diminishing in
    frequency, with Rasmussen promising that he'll eventually get it all
    off his chest, because he has much to say... when Denmark is ready to
    hear (or someone is interested enough to pay good money).

    That still doesn't answer the question of why he missed 4 out of
    competition tests. And as Lance said - EVERYONE has cell phones,
    internet connections or Blackberries these day. Why is it Rassmussen
    couldn't be reached?

  16. On Jul 26, 3:44 pm, Davey Crockett <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:
    Donald Munro said:
    Bret said:

    If I were falsely accused of being in a certain country at a certain
    time, I would be showing my passport to anyone willing to look at it.
    I don't think that's going to happen in this case.

    Quoted message said:

    He lost it ?

    I travel quite frequently

    I also don't have a single stamp in my passport although they are
    sometimes scanned electronically

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    Davey Crockett - No 4Q to Reply

    You obviously have not been to mexico.

    And did you not think that a scan would be recorded?

    or post 9-11 Everyone flying anywhere is recorded?

  17. cyclintom said:

    That still doesn't answer the question of why he missed 4 out of
    competition tests. And as Lance said - EVERYONE has cell phones,
    internet connections or Blackberries these day. Why is it Rassmussen
    couldn't be reached?

    LANCE would be better served by shutting up given the amount of time he
    spent in the company of Ferrari himself.

  18. Bret said:


    Quoted message said:

    "It's the work of a desperate man who is at the end of his nerves,"
    Rasmussen told the paper's website. "My boss is mad. I wasn't in
    Italy, no way. That's the story of one man (former cyclist and now an
    Italian television presenter Davide Cassani) who thinks he saw me. But
    there's not the slightest proof." -- Rasmussen Today

    If I were falsely accused of being in a certain country at a certain
    time, I would be showing my passport to anyone willing to look at it.
    I don't think that's going to happen in this case.

    He's an EU citizen, so he probably wouldn't get a
    passport stamp on going to Italy (Could an EU
    citizen confirm?) Last time I went to Mexico,
    we drove over the border and they didn't look at
    our passports, but that was a long time ago at
    a very small border crossing in the middle of
    nowhere. (It was at midnight and the border guard
    just stuck his head into the car and asked
    "Pistolas?" while making a gun shape with his thumb
    and index finger. It was pretty funny. And
    although this story makes it sound like we were
    driving a camper van made out of pot, we weren't,
    honest.) I would expect things to be a little
    more rigorous at an international airport.

    Anyway, if he was in Mexico, it shouldn't be hard
    to prove - credit cards, phone records, and so on.
    Like you, I doubt it will happen.

    Ben

  19. in message <[email hidden]>, Davey Crockett

    (') said:

    It seems that Rasmussen denies he was in Italy and isn't going to take
    the recent situation Cassani provoked lying down

    He'll most probably be suing for damages

    And Davey hopes he gets plenty

    /If/ he's telling the truth - and it shouldn't be very hard to prove - I
    would think the sky was the limit.

    --
    [email hidden] (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/

    ;; L'etat c'est moi -- Louis XVI
    ;; I... we... the Government -- Tony Blair

  20. in message <[email hidden]>, chester

    (') said:
    Davey Crockett said:

    It seems that Rasmussen denies he was in Italy and isn't going to take
    the recent situation Cassani provoked lying down

    He'll most probably be suing for damages

    He missed 4 random doping tests.

    True.

    Quoted message said:

    He failed to notify teams of his
    whereabouts.

    He apparently told his team that he was (at a specific place) in Mexico.
    His team now believes he wasn't - but this can easily be proved, and if he
    was there, then he told his team the truth.

    Quoted message said:

    He has no grounds. He violated the UCI rules and probably
    should not have started the tour.

    No, he didn't. He violated a procedure. If he had missed three UCI tests,
    he would have broken the rule - but he didn't.

    Quoted message said:

    There seems to be very little support
    for him amongst other riders.

    True, but he is at best a fairly abrasive personality, not someone easy to
    like. You wouldn't expect him to be popular in the peloton.

    Quoted message said:

    If the other riders have to submit for the
    tests, why should he not have to?

    The only suit I can seem him winning is suing the team for letting him
    start the tour and getting his hopes up.

    Certainly the only people he can sue are the team and the sponsor. But if
    he was telling the truth then I wouldn't want to be that sponsor - the
    damage both in financial terms and in bad publicity is going to be
    enormous.

    --
    [email hidden] (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/

    ;; All in all you're just another hick in the mall
    -- Drink C'lloid

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