How the heck do you get the wetsuit off efficiently?

"Angela D. Koch" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:CPZKa.33502$Ab2.59713@sccrnsc01...

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Every time I practice it, I am rolling on the ground and practically breaking my legs trying to
get the ankles out. I have a QR wetsuit, which

I

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obviously haven't raced in, yet, and proceed to peel it down to the waist, which is where I get
stuck. The legs don't want to peel down as nicely as the torso... help!

Go get yourself a bottle of PAM cooking spray. Spray down your legs and the inside of the wetsuit
before you put it on. That should help quite a bit.

James

Wet or Dry?

If you are trying to do this in your living room, the problem could be that you are too dry. I think
if you actually do a swim in your suit and try to peel it off, you will find it a little easier.

Personally, I wouldn't be spraying anything from my kitchen into my 500.00 wetsuit. Not to mention
biking and running for 1 or two hours with cooking oil running down my legs.

Get back to us and let us know how you make out.

Jim

"Angela D. Koch" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:CPZKa.33502$Ab2.59713@sccrnsc01...

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Every time I practice it, I am rolling on the ground and practically breaking my legs trying to
get the ankles out. I have a QR wetsuit, which

I

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obviously haven't raced in, yet, and proceed to peel it down to the waist, which is where I get
stuck. The legs don't want to peel down as nicely as the torso... help!

TIA, Angie

"Jim Gosse" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

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Personally, I wouldn't be spraying anything from my kitchen into my 500.00 wetsuit.

PAM is not patroleum based, will not harm neoprene, and is very commonly used by triathletes.

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Not to mention biking and running for 1 or two hours with cooking oil running down my legs.

You've obviously never used it or you would know better.

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"Angela D. Koch" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:CPZKa.33502$Ab2.59713@sccrnsc01...

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Every time I practice it, I am rolling on the ground and practically breaking my legs trying to
get the ankles out. I have a QR wetsuit, which

I

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obviously haven't raced in, yet, and proceed to peel it down to the waist, which is where I get
stuck. The legs don't want to peel down as nicely as the torso... help!

Go get yourself a bottle of PAM cooking spray. Spray down your legs and the inside of the wetsuit
before you put it on. That should help quite a bit.

James

I know you already hate me but... I believe Pam voids the warrently on QR. At least thats
what it said on the tag of the one I was reading yesterday. I Believe they suggest
Bodyglide. Do you have a QR? I'm in the process of trying to buy a suit and am trying
several. I rented a QR for a race this weekend and have the same issue as the original
poster. I've already tried an Aquaman pulsar and had no problems at the calf even without
lube. Do the QR's get easier to take off as they are used?

~Matt

~Matt

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I know you already hate me but...

Nah I don't hate anyone and I don't hold a grudge. Just got tired of the futility of the effort.

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I believe Pam voids the warrently on QR.

Well my wetsuit is an IronMan brand so I'm not familiar with that. Does it mention PAM specificly or
say something about petrolem based lubricants, which PAM is not? If using PAM would void the warrant
on my wetsuit I would not buy that wetsuit.

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I Believe they suggest Bodyglide.

Bodyglide will work just as well. The reason I recomend PAM is that it is much easer to PAM a larger
area than to use Bodyglide and it is MUCH cheaper.

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Do you have a QR? I'm in the process of trying to buy a suit and am trying several. I rented a QR
for a race this weekend and have the same issue as the original poster. I've already tried an
Aquaman pulsar and had no problems at the calf even without lube. Do the QR's get easier to take
off as they are used?

As stated above, I use an IronMan wetsuit. Personally I have never had any difficulty removing the
suit. I still use PAM because I want my transitions to be as fast as possible. A little extra
slick can't hurt. My wife does have more trouble than I getting out of the suit and she swears by
the stuff.

James

P.S. AFAIK IronMan and QR suits are both excellent choices. I would stay away from gimmick suits
like the piel.

Angela D. Koch said:

Every time I practice it, I am rolling on the ground and practically breaking my legs trying to get
the ankles out. I have a QR wetsuit, which I obviously haven't raced in, yet, and proceed to peel
it down to the waist, which is where I get stuck. The legs don't want to peel down as nicely as the
torso... help!

TIA, Angie

At an actual race, you'll discover that if you sit down in the shallow water just before exiting,
with your butt and legs still in the water, the suit will slip right off. The water inside the legs
is the secret.

If you have kids and a wading pool (or neighbors with one,) give it a try.

Mike Tennent "IronPenguin"

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<MJuric> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

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I know you already hate me but...

Nah I don't hate anyone and I don't hold a grudge. Just got tired of the futility of the effort.

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I believe Pam voids the warrently on QR.

Well my wetsuit is an IronMan brand so I'm not familiar with that. Does it mention PAM specificly
or say something about petrolem based lubricants, which PAM is not? If using PAM would void the
warrant on my wetsuit I would not buy that wetsuit.

I believe that it says on the tag, not 100% sure. I know alot of other folks use PAM though.
I can check when I get home.

~Matt

Angela,

Ignore all the advice about using PAM or Body Glide to solve your problem. I had a QR suit before
with the same problem and no amount of lubricant could make it come off my legs. The problem is with
the QR suit and your body dimensions. I tried on new QR and Ironman suits in varying sizes this year
and in every instance the Ironman suit peeled off no sweat and the QR suit stuck like glue. There
are probably other brands besides Ironman that come off easy. Find a store selling other brands and
try them on for comparison. I think you'll find a suit that strips easy even when dry.

"Angela D. Koch" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:CPZKa.33502$Ab2.59713@sccrnsc01...

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Every time I practice it, I am rolling on the ground and practically breaking my legs trying to
get the ankles out. I have a QR wetsuit, which

I

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obviously haven't raced in, yet, and proceed to peel it down to the waist, which is where I get
stuck. The legs don't want to peel down as nicely as the torso... help!

TIA, Angie

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<MJuric> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

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I know you already hate me but...

Nah I don't hate anyone and I don't hold a grudge. Just got tired of the futility of the effort.

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I believe Pam voids the warrently on QR.

Well my wetsuit is an IronMan brand so I'm not familiar with that. Does it mention PAM specificly
or say something about petrolem based lubricants, which PAM is not? If using PAM would void the
warrant on my wetsuit I would not buy that wetsuit.

What if putting sulphuric acid on the wetsuit voided the warranty? Would you buy *that* wetsuit?

PAM is bad for wetsuits, so why are you determined to find a wetsuit that allows you to use it?

--Harold Buck

"I used to rock and roll all night, and party every day. Then it was every other day. . . ."

- Homer J. Simpson

Use to have a simular problem... experience helped to speed up the process and a lot of tricks (pam,
dipping in water, etc) made it easier...

Then I wised up and bought a Piel. As you exit the water, just pull up on the two zippers and run to
your bike...period. It will fall off as you run to your bike.

Joe M

"Angela D. Koch" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<CPZKa.33502$Ab2.59713@sccrnsc01>...

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Every time I practice it, I am rolling on the ground and practically breaking my legs trying to
get the ankles out. I have a QR wetsuit, which I obviously haven't raced in, yet, and proceed to
peel it down to the waist, which is where I get stuck. The legs don't want to peel down as nicely
as the torso... help!

TIA, Angie

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PAM is bad for wetsuits, so why are you determined to find a wetsuit that allows you to use it?

In what way?

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PAM is bad for wetsuits, so why are you determined to find a wetsuit that allows you to use it?

In what way?

It supposedly deteriorates the rubber. Bodyglide doesn't.

--Harold Buck

"I used to rock and roll all night, and party every day. Then it was every other day. . . ."

- Homer J. Simpson

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"Harold Buck" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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PAM is bad for wetsuits, so why are you determined to find a wetsuit that allows you to
use it?

In what way?

It supposedly deteriorates the rubber. Bodyglide doesn't.

You sure you're not mixing up PAM with Vaseline? PAM is not petroleum based, the reason Bodyglide
was invented was to replace Vaseline which does harm neoprene. If you can post a reference showing
that vegetable oil hurts neoprene I would really like to see it. It certainly hasn't hurt my
wetsuit any.

James

MJuric said:

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<MJuric> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

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I know you already hate me but...

Nah I don't hate anyone and I don't hold a grudge. Just got tired of the futility of the effort.

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I believe Pam voids the warrently on QR.

Well my wetsuit is an IronMan brand so I'm not familiar with that. Does it mention PAM specificly
or say something about petrolem based lubricants, which PAM is not? If using PAM would void the
warrant on my wetsuit I would not buy that wetsuit.

I believe that it says on the tag, not 100% sure. I know alot of other folks use PAM though.
I can check when I get home.

~Matt

If you're interested I stand slightly corrected. It does not say PAM, however it does say
don't apply cooking spray. PAM would fall under that category.

~Matt

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"Harold Buck" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> PAM is bad for wetsuits, so why are you determined to find a wetsuit that allows you to use
> it?

In what way?

It supposedly deteriorates the rubber. Bodyglide doesn't.

You sure you're not mixing up PAM with Vaseline? PAM is not petroleum based, the reason Bodyglide
was invented was to replace Vaseline which does harm neoprene. If you can post a reference showing
that vegetable oil hurts neoprene I would really like to see it. It certainly hasn't hurt my
wetsuit any.

I've seen it in tri magazines and books. It could be an urban legend, I suppose, but I wouldn't risk
it myself unless I knew for sure it was an urban legend.

--Harold Buck

"I used to rock and roll all night, and party every day. Then it was every other day. . . ."

- Homer J. Simpson

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I've seen it in tri magazines and books. It could be an urban legend, I suppose, but I wouldn't
risk it myself unless I knew for sure it was an urban legend.

Well if you come across something again let me know. I haven't seen anything but then again, I've
never found a Tri magazine worth reading....

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I've seen it in tri magazines and books. It could be an urban legend, I suppose, but I wouldn't
risk it myself unless I knew for sure it was an urban legend.

Well if you come across something again let me know. I haven't seen anything but then again, I've
never found a Tri magazine worth reading....

The exact wording on the QR tag is "DON'T use petroleum based lubricant or cooking spray.
This makes it impossible to fix your suit" Again this doesn't answer the question of if
vegitable oil harms the suit. It does seem QR thinks so tjough.

~Matt

One more time. The issue is dimension, size, girth of your limbs versus the wetsuit. Flesh does NOT
stick to rubber so the concept that putting oil or Body Glide on to fix is absurd! The only thing
that may stick is the suit upon itself when folded over the legs.

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"Harold Buck" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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I've seen it in tri magazines and books. It could be an urban legend, I suppose, but I wouldn't
risk it myself unless I knew for sure it was an urban legend.

Well if you come across something again let me know. I haven't seen anything but then again, I've
never found a Tri magazine worth

reading....

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The exact wording on the QR tag is "DON'T use petroleum based lubricant or cooking spray. This
makes it impossible to fix your suit" Again this doesn't answer the question of if vegitable oil
harms the suit. It does seem QR thinks so tjough.

~Matt

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One more time. The issue is dimension, size, girth of your limbs versus

the

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wetsuit. Flesh does NOT stick to rubber so the concept that putting oil

or

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Body Glide on to fix is absurd! The only thing that may stick is the suit upon itself when folded
over the legs.

Flesh absolutely does stick to rubber when pulled against each other. If you do not believe this run
an eraser back and forth across your arm really hard. You're gonna loose skin, eraser or both.

No one disagrees that a properly fitting wetsuit will come off easily, but not everyone can afford a
custom suit. The original author already has a suit. I think the option of using a lubricant to get
it off is far superior to you option of throwing it away and buying another suit.

James