Hybrids again

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OK - I have done a lot of research this week as to buying
a hybrid for general/leisure use - thank you very much to
all who replied to my initial post on the subject and am
sorry to post again on the same subject.

I have narrowed the search down to 2 definites but cannot
decide between them:

Dawes Discovery 501 - £399

dawes-cycles.co.ukdiscovery501.aspOpen ↗

or

Ridgeback Velocity - £299

ridgebackbikes.co.ukbike.aspOpen ↗
sid=21&index=7

A the moment I am swayed towards the Dawes on the basis
that my LBS stock them and that the spec of the components
is slightly better, but the Ridgeback looks nicer. Can
anyone afford me an opinion as to whether the 501 is worth
an extra £100. Other observations very welcome,
particularly if anyone feels there's a bike in the <£400
bracket I have missed.

I'd be particularly interested in comments from riders
of each.

For ease the links to each are posted above too.

I think the Ridgeback's likely to be heavier than the Dawes.
My friend has the Nova, which is the same frame with less
cogs and riser bars AFAIK, and it's a tad heavier than my
Giant MTB, despite my MTB having front suspension. I'd be
very surprised if the Dawes isn't a fair bit lighter.

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"Saint" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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OK - I have done a lot of research this week as to
buying a hybrid for general/leisure use - thank you very
much to all who replied to my

initial

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post on the subject and am sorry to post again on the
same subject.

I have narrowed the search down to 2 definites but
cannot decide between them:

Dawes Discovery 501 - £399

dawes-cycles.co.ukdiscovery501.aspOpen ↗

or

Ridgeback Velocity - £299

ridgebackbikes.co.ukbike.aspOpen ↗
iesid=21&index=7

A the moment I am swayed towards the Dawes on the basis
that my LBS

stock

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them and that the spec of the components is slightly
better, but the Ridgeback looks nicer. Can anyone afford
me an opinion as to whether

the

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501 is worth an extra £100. Other observations very
welcome,

particularly

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if anyone feels there's a bike in the <£400 bracket I
have missed.

I'd be particularly interested in comments from riders
of each.

For ease the links to each are posted above too.

I think the Ridgeback's likely to be heavier than the
Dawes. My friend has the Nova, which is the same frame
with less cogs and riser bars AFAIK, and it's a tad
heavier than my Giant MTB, despite my MTB having front
suspension. I'd be very surprised if the Dawes isn't a
fair bit lighter.

Thanks for that Doki - it was an interesting point as I
actually suspected the opposite, hence the reason I posted
the topic as I have no way of comparing the bikes side by
side. I hate pestering people but want to make the right
choice as best I can and the information/opinions from
peoplr more knowledgable than I is always something I pay
attention to.

Cheers

S

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OK - I have done a lot of research this week as to
buying a hybrid for general/leisure use - thank you
very much to all who replied to my

initial

Quoted message said:

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post on the subject and am sorry to post again on the
same subject.

I have narrowed the search down to 2 definites but
cannot decide

between

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them:

Dawes Discovery 501 - £399

dawes-cycles.co.ukdiscovery501.aspOpen ↗

or

Ridgeback Velocity - £299

ridgebackbikes.co.ukbike.aspOpen ↗
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I think the Ridgeback's likely to be heavier than the
Dawes. My friend

has

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the Nova, which is the same frame with less cogs and
riser bars AFAIK,

and

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it's a tad heavier than my Giant MTB, despite my MTB
having front suspension. I'd be very surprised if the
Dawes isn't a fair bit lighter.

Thanks for that Doki - it was an interesting point as I
actually suspected the opposite, hence the reason I posted
the topic as I have no way of comparing the bikes side by
side. I hate pestering people but want to

make

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the right choice as best I can and the
information/opinions from peoplr

more

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knowledgable than I is always something I pay
attention to.

I wouldn't take what I've said as gospel - the fork on the
Velocity will be a bit lighter than the Nova, and the
Dawes could always be made of scaffolding poles. I've not
ridden / looked at either bike, so I could be completely
off. Hopefully someone who has will turn up and tell us
what's what 😄.

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"Saint" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> OK - I have done a lot of research this week as to
> buying a hybrid for general/leisure use - thank you
> very much to all who replied to my

initial

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> post on the subject and am sorry to post again on the
> same subject.
>
> I have narrowed the search down to 2 definites but
> cannot decide

between

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> them:
>
> Dawes Discovery 501 - £399
>
> dawes-cycles.co.ukdiscovery501.aspOpen ↗
>
> or
>
> Ridgeback Velocity - £299
>
>

ridgebackbikes.co.ukbike.aspOpen ↗
sid=21&index=7 <snippage>

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I think the Ridgeback's likely to be heavier than the
Dawes. My friend

has

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the Nova, which is the same frame with less cogs and
riser bars AFAIK,

and

Quoted message said:

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it's a tad heavier than my Giant MTB, despite my MTB
having front suspension. I'd be very surprised if the
Dawes isn't a fair bit lighter.

Thanks for that Doki - it was an interesting point as I
actually suspected the opposite, hence the reason I
posted the topic as I have no way of comparing the bikes
side by side. I hate pestering people but want to

make

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the right choice as best I can and the
information/opinions from peoplr

more

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knowledgable than I is always something I pay
attention to.

I wouldn't take what I've said as gospel - the fork on the
Velocity will be a bit lighter than the Nova, and the
Dawes could always be made of scaffolding poles. I've not
ridden / looked at either bike, so I could be completely
off. Hopefully someone who has will turn up and tell us
what's what 😄.

I'm curious about the 28-spoked wheels on the Dawes - is
this enough for touring?

AC

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Doki said:

I wouldn't take what I've said as gospel - the fork on
the Velocity will

be

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a bit lighter than the Nova, and the Dawes could always
be made of scaffolding poles. I've not ridden / looked
at either bike, so I could

be

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completely off. Hopefully someone who has will turn up
and tell us

what's

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what 😄.

I'm curious about the 28-spoked wheels on the Dawes - is
this enough for touring?

Those things do make me wonder, but I've seen pictures of
MTBs with wheels with far too few spokes before. It *is* a
hybird and not a tourer though.

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"Saint" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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>OK - I have done a lot of research this week as to
>buying a hybrid for general/leisure use - thank you very
>much to all who replied to my

initial

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>post on the subject and am sorry to post again on the
>same subject.
>
>I have narrowed the search down to 2 definites but
>cannot decide

between

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>them:
>
>Dawes Discovery 501 - £399
>
>dawes-cycles.co.ukdiscovery501.aspOpen ↗
>
>or
>
>Ridgeback Velocity - £299
>
>

ridgebackbikes.co.ukbike.aspOpen ↗
sid=21&index=7 <snippage>

Quoted message said:

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I think the Ridgeback's likely to be heavier than the
Dawes. My friend

has

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the Nova, which is the same frame with less cogs and
riser bars AFAIK,

and

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

it's a tad heavier than my Giant MTB, despite my MTB
having front suspension. I'd be very surprised if the
Dawes isn't a fair bit lighter.

Thanks for that Doki - it was an interesting point as I
actually suspected the opposite, hence the reason I posted
the topic as I have no way of comparing the bikes side by
side. I hate pestering people but want to

make

Quoted message said:

the right choice as best I can and the
information/opinions from peoplr

more

Quoted message said:

knowledgable than I is always something I pay
attention to.

I wouldn't take what I've said as gospel - the fork on the
Velocity will be a bit lighter than the Nova, and the
Dawes could always be made of scaffolding poles. I've not
ridden / looked at either bike, so I could be completely
off. Hopefully someone who has will turn up and tell us
what's what 😄.

The dawes is 27 Pound in mass I think (dawes-dawes-Open ↗
cycles.co.uk/weights.asp).

I Have owned a Ridegeback Hybrid and a Dawes road bike and
have been happier with the dawes. But as their are very
different types of bikes it may not be fair. I felt the
Dawes more care was taken with finish etc. On both Bikes the
wheels needed rebuilding within in a couple of years.

Peter

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I wouldn't take what I've said as gospel - the fork on
the Velocity will

be

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a bit lighter than the Nova, and the Dawes could always
be made of scaffolding poles. I've not ridden / looked
at either bike, so I could

be

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

completely off. Hopefully someone who has will turn up
and tell us

what's

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what 😄.

The dawes is 27 Pound in mass I think (dawes-dawes-Open ↗
cycles.co.uk/weights.asp).

I Have owned a Ridegeback Hybrid and a Dawes road bike and
have been happier with the dawes. But as their are very
different types of bikes it may not be fair. I felt the
Dawes more care was taken with finish etc. On both Bikes
the wheels needed rebuilding within in a couple of

years.

Seems a lot. ISTR reading that a decent hardtail MTB weighs
in at 28lbs or so. That might a > £1000 hardtail though.

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I wouldn't take what I've said as gospel - the fork on
the Velocity will

be

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Quoted message said:

a bit lighter than the Nova, and the Dawes could always
be made of scaffolding poles. I've not ridden / looked at
either bike, so I could

be

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

completely off. Hopefully someone who has will turn up
and tell us

what's

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

what 😄.

The dawes is 27 Pound in mass I think (dawes-dawes-Open ↗
cycles.co.uk/weights.asp).

I Have owned a Ridegeback Hybrid and a Dawes road bike and
have been happier with the dawes. But as their are very
different types of bikes it may not be fair. I felt the
Dawes more care was taken with finish etc. On both Bikes
the wheels needed rebuilding within in a couple of

years.

Seems a lot. ISTR reading that a decent hardtail MTB
weighs in at 28lbs or so. That might a > £1000
hardtail though.

Found a wight for the Ridge back the Dawes is very slightly
lighter by 1 lb edinburgh-edinburgh-Open ↗
bicycle.co.uk/catalogue/detail.cfm?ID=18558

Peter

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Seems a lot. ISTR reading that a decent hardtail MTB
weighs in at 28lbs or so. That might a > £1000
hardtail though.

Found a weight for thw ridge bacl and it is 1 LB heaver than
the dawes.

edinburgh-edinburgh-Open ↗
bicycle.co.uk/catalogue/detail.cfm?ID=18558

But still lighter than a Marin in same price bracket edinburgh-edinburgh-Open ↗
bicycle.co.uk/catalogue/detail.cfm?ID=18334

and about the same as edinburgh-edinburgh-Open ↗
bicycle.co.uk/catalogue/detail.cfm?ID=19371

Peter

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Originally posted by Saint
OK - I have done a lot of research this week as to buying a
hybrid for general/leisure use - thank you very much to all
who replied to my initial post on the subject and am sorry
to post again on the same subject.

I have narrowed the search down to 2 definites but cannot
decide between them:

Dawes Discovery 501 - £399

dawes-cycles.co.ukdiscovery501.aspOpen ↗

or

Ridgeback Velocity - £299

ridgebackbikes.co.ukbike.aspOpen ↗
d=21&index=7

A the moment I am swayed towards the Dawes on the basis
that my LBS stock them and that the spec of the components
is slightly better, but the Ridgeback looks nicer. Can
anyone afford me an opinion as to whether the 501 is worth
an extra £100. Other observations very welcome,
particularly if anyone feels there's a bike in the <£400
bracket I have missed.

I'd be particularly interested in comments from riders of
each.

For ease the links to each are posted above too.

Thanks again

S

Right I know nothing about bikes really (I'm a horse rider) but have recently been in a similar position to you (but with a smaller budget - see horse comment!!). I was torn between a Dawes Discovery 301 and a Raleigh ?? (it was blue!). Having seen them both in the shop there was no competition, I bought the Dawes. It arrived on Monday, it's much lighter than my last one and it got me up a hill in fine style (never been known before). In short I really like the Dawes. I too did loads of research and then went into the shop and chose then one with the colour I liked best (how girly is that!). Anyway hopefully my new beastie will provide some fun trips out with OH and friends and help develop legs and general fitness for horse riding.

Helena

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Dawes Discovery 501 - £399

dawes-cycles.co.ukdiscovery501.aspOpen ↗

or

Ridgeback Velocity - £299

ridgebackbikes.co.ukbike.aspOpen ↗
sid=21&index=7

I'd be particularly interested in comments from riders
of each.

Thanks again

S

I have a Ridgeback Velocity, and am very happy with it. When
I was looking, I tried to decide between the Dawes 401 and
the Ridgeback, but couldn't find a LBS which had any Dawes
in stock, so ended up with the Ridgeback.

I am not a particularly knowledgeable cyclist, but have
found no problems so far with the Ridgeback.

HTH,

Patrick