I'm baaaaacccckkkkk

JJ said:

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nanner wrote:
:: i feel like i have been trying to reel myself in for a few years and
:: have just been out of control. i had many starts - best probably
:: being about a month long before crashing

I always wonder about this....when people disppear from here...does
that mean they are out there off the wagon? Regaining the weight?
I've seen it happen over and over and over....

Sometimes we are just busy with our lives and not taking time to post
but we are doing fine on the weight ;-) Not without difficulties but
definitely under control.

Take care.

--
JJ

It's definitely also life challenges. For instance, after Coco Lopez (our
pet name) is born, you'll probably not see me post for quite a while. Not
because I don't want to post, but because I'll be too dang tired to post!

--
Bob in CT

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Have you been doing any exercise?

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Pat in TX

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i was *before* the crash and burn entirely kicked in so I'd say 10 months
of no excercise at all.

why do you ask?

Big story on losing weight in this week's TIME magazine. Bottom line is that
exercise is the most important factor in losing weight and keeping excess
weight off.

Pat in TX

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It's definitely also life challenges. For instance, after Coco Lopez (our
pet name) is born, you'll probably not see me post for quite a while. Not
because I don't want to post, but because I'll be too dang tired to post!

Oh it may not be that bad 🙂. When our daughter was born she slept 6 hours
at a stretch, right from the beginning, and was sleeping 8 hours through a
just 3 weeks old. I know a lot of people expect the worst, but a lot of
people also don't get the worst 🙂.

--
Sherry
lowcarb.owly.net

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:: "Roger Zoul" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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::: nanner wrote:
::::: i feel like i have been trying to reel myself in for a few years
::::: and have just been out of control. i had many starts - best
::::: probably being about a month long before crashing
:::
::: I always wonder about this....when people disppear from here...does
::: that mean they are out there off the wagon? Regaining the weight?
::: I've seen it happen over and over and over....
::
:: Sometimes we are just busy with our lives and not taking time to
:: post but we are doing fine on the weight ;-) Not without
:: difficulties but definitely under control.
::
:: Take care.
::
:: --
:: JJ

Hey, that's really good to hear, JJ! Take care!

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It's definitely also life challenges. For instance, after Coco Lopez
(our
pet name) is born, you'll probably not see me post for quite a while.
Not
because I don't want to post, but because I'll be too dang tired to
post!

Oh it may not be that bad 🙂. When our daughter was born she slept 6
hours
at a stretch, right from the beginning, and was sleeping 8 hours through
a
just 3 weeks old. I know a lot of people expect the worst, but a lot of
people also don't get the worst 🙂.

Well, that would be great. I've read a book that classifies babies into 4
or 5 classes, and maybe you got an "angel baby". Your story is
encouraging, though.

--
Bob in CT

I think that is exactly what is happening Roger. Regain, statistically, is
the normal outcome.

Personally, when I reached 190, it was like someone pulled a fire alarm. I
didn't need to get all the way back to 320 to become determined to stop the
regain.

Welcome back nanner.

Cubit
190/162/160

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nanner wrote:
:: i feel like i have been trying to reel myself in for a few years and
:: have just been out of control. i had many starts - best probably
:: being about a month long before crashing

I always wonder about this....when people disppear from here...does that
mean they are out there off the wagon? Regaining the weight? I've seen
it happen over and over and over....

glassman said:

Not to pick on you alone, but in general.... why do folks wait
until they get back to the starting point before they do it all over
again I wonder? Can you imagine if you started up again when you
were only 10-20 lbs gone? Gotta be some sort of emotional trigger
here?

I think we all have a mental self-image of what we look like when
we're "normal." It's harder to get yourself into habits that move you
*away* from that self-image (in either direction) than it is to get
yourself into habits that move you toward it. (The latter happens
automatically.) This is true of a lot more things than weight. If
your self-image is of a successful person, you'll have a much easier
time developing success-bringing habits than the person whose
self-image is of a loser.

So, one's self-image may be of a person who is 50 pounds overweight --
especially if one was overweight as a child, when these mental habits
are being built. I was one of the smallest boys in my class in grade
school; then at about the age of 12-13 I grew 6 inches taller and put
on a lot of muscle, but also had just a little bit of a belly (enough
to dread being "skins" in sports). By the time I was playing high
school basketball, I was 5'10" and a pretty solid 180 pounds, and
should have been a power forward Charles Barkley-type player taking
the ball inside, but I still thought of myself as that short little
kid who had to shoot from outside. Frustrated my coach quite a bit.
I was always interested in disciplines like judo, which allow a
smaller person to use a larger person's inertia against him -- even
after I was almost always going to be the larger person!

When you start gaining weight, at some point you're going to look at
yourself and not see the self-image you hold, and that dissonance that
can push you into taking action about it. When I look in a mirror, I
pretty much see my self-image, so I'm working on that, doing
visualization exercises where I see myself as slimmer and healthier,
and all the benefits that come with that. I saw a picture of myself
this weekend, and it did *NOT* match my self-image; there was a major
double-chin there that I can't see in the mirror. I guess that's
because of the difference in the angle of the light. Maybe taking
weekly or monthly pictures of oneself would be a useful tool for
staying on plan, in addition to monitoring weight and inches.

--
Aaron -- 285/235/200 -- aaron.baugher.biz

Jeri said:

Since you've been so brave I'll come clean too. I've gained all my
weight back also. Three Thanksgivings ago I decided I was going to
have small helpings of all the non-low carb foods, just for the
holiday. Well Thanksgiving turned into Christmas turned into New
Years, Easter, summer picnics.....you get the picture.

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Added to that were emotional roller coaster eating binges after
losing my sister to cancer and then being downsized from my job a
year later. After all that, being thin just didn't seem so important
anymore. So many excuses and justifications. ugh!!! I'm disgusted
with myself.

Sounds a little like my story, although fortunately I didn't gain all
the weight back, just 10-15 pounds from the lowest point I reached. I
was cruising along, staying LC without much effort, losing weight
gradually, and thought I'd take a break for Thanksgiving. Then there
was an early Christmas party a couple weeks later, then Christmas
itself, etc. In the midst of all that, there was a girlfriend who
lived on nothing but Cheetos and Kit Kats, then the breakup that made
everything else seem unimportant, then a work shortage and financial
stress.

Like you say, all rationalizations. I know if I'd stayed low-carb, I
would have handled all those things better. Sugar rushes and crashes
sure don't help you handle stress! One big mistake I made was not
keeping up with this group.

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So on June 1st I climbed back on the wagon. It's a pretty rickety
one but hopefully I'll keep it together.

Good for you; I'm right there with you.

--
Aaron -- 285/235/200 -- aaron.baugher.biz

Jeri wrote:
:: Since you've been so brave I'll come clean too. I've gained all my
:: weight back also. Three Thanksgivings ago I decided I was going to
:: have small helpings of all the non-low carb foods, just for the
:: holiday. Well Thanksgiving turned into Christmas turned into New
:: Years, Easter, summer picnics.....you get the picture.
::
:: Added to that were emotional roller coaster eating binges after
:: losing my sister to cancer and then being downsized from my job a
:: year later. After all that, being thin just didn't seem so important
:: anymore. So many excuses and justifications. ugh!!! I'm disgusted
:: with myself.
::
:: So on June 1st I climbed back on the wagon. It's a pretty rickety
:: one but hopefully I'll keep it together.

I really think that what's happened to you and nanner can happen to any of
us. IMO, no one is immune. If you've ever had a weight problem, you will
always be susceptable to your weight getting out of control, IMO. I think
people who've never had a weight problem cannot understand this notion.

Anyway, that's what this group is for. When you fall off, TELL SOMEONE!!
Try not to disappear. Get it out in the open. IMO, it's the first step to
getting control again.

I do realise how impossibly hard life situations can be, though. You just
have to do the best you can and think about what the road back to weight
control entails, based on where you are and what you're dealing with at the
time.

Good luck!

nanner wrote:
:: well - first we are so busy partying and whooping it up when we are
:: thin LOL I've always popped my nose in whether i was on or off but
:: you know, it's when we come in dragging our tails and need support
:: 🙂 I've seen some great success stories here, me it's been a battle
:: for 4 years.

It's always going to be a battle....the only thing to consider is whether
you weight 50 lbs extra or not. Life is generally more fun without the
extra weight (IME).

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It's definitely also life challenges. For instance, after Coco Lopez
(our
pet name) is born, you'll probably not see me post for quite a while.
Not
because I don't want to post, but because I'll be too dang tired to
post!

Oh it may not be that bad 🙂. When our daughter was born she slept 6
hours
at a stretch, right from the beginning, and was sleeping 8 hours through
a
just 3 weeks old. I know a lot of people expect the worst, but a lot of
people also don't get the worst 🙂.

Well, that would be great. I've read a book that classifies babies into 4
or 5 classes, and maybe you got an "angel baby". Your story is
encouraging, though.

--
Bob in CT

was that the Baby Whisperer book?

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"Bob in CT" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> It's definitely also life challenges. For instance, after Coco Lopez
> (our
> pet name) is born, you'll probably not see me post for quite a while.
> Not
> because I don't want to post, but because I'll be too dang tired to
> post!

Oh it may not be that bad 🙂. When our daughter was born she slept 6
hours
at a stretch, right from the beginning, and was sleeping 8 hours
through
a
just 3 weeks old. I know a lot of people expect the worst, but a lot
of
people also don't get the worst 🙂.

Well, that would be great. I've read a book that classifies babies
into 4
or 5 classes, and maybe you got an "angel baby". Your story is
encouraging, though.

--
Bob in CT

was that the Baby Whisperer book?

Yep.

--
Bob in CT

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There are some many people who don't want to do whatever plan
because something is forbidden. Some idiots read the rules for
Induction and think that level of restriction lasts forever.

A large part of this "idiot" group you are talking about is made up of
people who write articles and columns for newspapers and magazines. They
just assume that induction is the entire plan.

Pat in TX

Pat said:

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There are some many people who don't want to do whatever plan
because something is forbidden. Some idiots read the rules for
Induction and think that level of restriction lasts forever.

A large part of this "idiot" group you are talking about is made up of
people who write articles and columns for newspapers and magazines. They
just assume that induction is the entire plan.

Pat in TX

Which is probably logically the best thing for them to do, as they
typically have an agenda to discount low carb and to instead proselytize
people to whatever happens to be the "correct" diet (i.e., low fat, high
carb, the "Med" diet, etc.).

--
Bob in CT

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oh fooey.

i regained all my lost weight because i spent the last 1-2 years
binging. 🙁

Not to pick on you alone, but in general.... why do folks wait until
they get back to the starting point before they do it all over again I
wonder? Can you imagine if you started up again when you were only 10-20
lbs gone? Gotta be some sort of emotional trigger here?

Hey another familiar name!

actually over the last 2 years I have started over many times only to fall
off the wagon hard. So i DID restart after a 5lb gain, then start again at
10lbs then didn't get on the scale then it was 25lbs and i was so
disgusted but tried again and fell off hard, went into denial....etc etc

until you get to the point where you scare yourself and know you better do
something (family intervening etc) and you that is usually around the time
one starts way back when in the first place!!!!!

i feel like i have been trying to reel myself in for a few years and have
just been out of control. i had many starts - best probably being about a
month long before crashing

It's that emotional trigger of being back at the beginning I'm talking
about. Seems like if we lose 57 lbs, we'll keep binging on & off until we
gain back 57 lbs, not 53 or 62. At that point we get serious again. I
think we need to keep throwing out clothes and keeping the current ones
snug.

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JK Sinrod
www.SinrodStudios.com
www.MyConeyIslandMemories.com