I need Baja by bicycle advice

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Hi, I want to bicycle tour in Baja california, in a few months. Is there anyone out there that has
done it that I could correspond with? I need advice regarding equipment (tires, tubes, carrying
water, etc.). I have toured in the past, but not in the desert.

1. you might have a better chance of responses if you post this in ".Rides".
2. where?
3. Hwy 1 sucks thanks to NAFTA. [censored] from CA suck. [censored] from AZ suck. (last done in '95 and
can't see any reason for it getting better.)
4. the locals were (are?) great, including the bus drivers and truckers.

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Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Hi, I want to bicycle tour in Baja california, in a few months. Is there anyone out there that
has done it that I could correspond with? I need advice regarding equipment (tires, tubes,
carrying water, etc.). I have toured in the past, but not in the desert.

1. you might have a better chance of responses if you post this in ".Rides".
2. where?
3. Hwy 1 sucks thanks to NAFTA. [censored] from CA suck. [censored] from AZ suck. (last done in '95
and can't see any reason for it getting better.)
4. the locals were (are?) great, including the bus drivers and truckers.

Dear B.C.,

The locals were great in 1972. I'm still paying off my debt to some kindly truckers, who got me out
of a bad spot.

Do you think that their secret might have something to do with not thinking of everyone else
as [censored]?

Carl Fogel

Thanks, I will post on "rides."

Why has NAFTA changed things in Baja? More vehicle traffic?

Thanks, Eric

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Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Hi, I want to bicycle tour in Baja california, in a few months. Is there anyone out there that
has done it that I could correspond with? I need advice regarding equipment (tires, tubes,
carrying water, etc.). I have toured in the past, but not in the desert.

1. you might have a better chance of responses if you post this in ".Rides".
2. where?
3. Hwy 1 sucks thanks to NAFTA. [censored] from CA suck. [censored] from AZ suck. (last done in '95
and can't see any reason for it getting better.)
4. the locals were (are?) great, including the bus drivers and truckers.

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[email hidden] (B.C. Cletta) wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Hi, I want to bicycle tour in Baja california, in a few months. Is there anyone out there that
has done it that I could correspond with? I need advice regarding equipment (tires, tubes,
carrying water, etc.). I have toured in the past, but not in the desert.

1. you might have a better chance of responses if you post this in ".Rides".
2. where?
3. Hwy 1 sucks thanks to NAFTA. [censored] from CA suck. [censored] from AZ suck. (last done in '95
and can't see any reason for it getting better.)
4. the locals were (are?) great, including the bus drivers and truckers.

Dear B.C.,

The locals were great in 1972. I'm still paying off my debt to some kindly truckers, who got me
out of a bad spot.

Do you think that their secret might have something to do with not thinking of everyone else as
[censored]?

this was an empirical observation. the ass-wholes from CA & AZ lacked the mental skills to
recognize that the two POS "highway" most likely did not meet the standards for the street in
front of thier house let alone interstates & could not be safely travelled at +70-mph. in '72?
sounds like you followed the asphalt trucks down. did you do it w/ Bonnie Wong? my first trip was
in 84 or 85. the road between Todo Santos & Cabo wasn't paved.

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Thanks, I will post on "rides."

Why has NAFTA changed things in Baja? More vehicle traffic?

Thanks, Eric

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Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Hi, I want to bicycle tour in Baja california, in a few months. Is there anyone out there that
has done it that I could correspond with? I need advice regarding equipment (tires, tubes,
carrying water, etc.). I have toured in the past, but not in the desert.

1. you might have a better chance of responses if you post this in ".Rides".
2. where?
3. Hwy 1 sucks thanks to NAFTA. [censored] from CA suck. [censored] from AZ suck. (last done in '95
and can't see any reason for it getting better.)
4. the locals were (are?) great, including the bus drivers and truckers.

Dear B.C.,

I saw no asphalt in 1972, nor any bicycles--it was motorcycling back then. The only traffic was a
kindly hunting guide pursuing mountain sheep in an elderly Willys jeep, who donated a vulcanizing
repair kit, and a trio of truckers who appeared out of nowhere, ten minutes after the bead finally
ripped out of my flat rear tire after 180 miles of abuse. We met no one else.

(A few improbable nails, all our spare tubes, a next-to-useless Dunlop patch kit, and the only spare
tube in Bahia Los Angeles afforded me the entertainment of changing the same rear tire a total of
seventeen times in two days. I'm trying to work up the courage to try patching inner tubes again,
but for some reason I just can't bear it--I carry spare bicycle tubes now.)

Throughout my visit, I was assured that Baja's roads had improved since 1968. The roads were
actually just ordinary desert roads winding along the mountains, no challenge at all outside the
rainy season--only speed or damaged equipment made them difficult. After all, diesel trucks had been
creeping up and down the peninsula for years.

Luckily, I hadn't yet read Steinbeck's "Log of the Sea of Cortez," so I didn't realize that the
fellows who went fishing were probably having a much better time.

Carl Fogel