** I See Fat People **

Sad , just sad. BTW, you'd better be doing some of those things that you
want to do when you're thin, because life might run out before then. It
has a way of doing that sometimes.
--
Cheri
Type 2, no meds for now.

Cubit wrote in message ...

Quoted message said:

"How often do you see them?"

"All the time... they're everywhere."

Just as the dead haunt the kid in the movie The Sixth Sense, I find I'm
startled by all the fat people I see everywhere. I used to only notice

just

Quoted message said:

the really really big people and feel like a friend had appeared. Now,

it

Quoted message said:

is like a freak show. I'm surrounded by weird distended pot bellies

and

Quoted message said:

rears that look 3 feet wide.

Maybe part of me assumed that everyone would be losing weight, now that

low

Quoted message said:

carb is well known. They're not. There is finally a diet fad that

works,

Quoted message said:

and it will fade away just like the other fads. The studies needed to

prove

Quoted message said:

Atkins will require decades.

I ache to be thin again. Maybe because I want it so bad I see myself

rail

Quoted message said:

thin in my mind. I'm making lists of things to do when I'm thin:

Change

Quoted message said:

careers. Go swimming. Go to the beach. Buy tight clothes. Dye my

hair.

Quoted message said:

Find more friends. (I almost said "Find new friends."😉 I wanna go to
nightclubs and be on TV to show off my [future] look.

Will I still be understanding with all the fat people out there? Will

I be

Quoted message said:

snotty and rude to them? To really appreciate a fur coat you have to

throw

Quoted message said:

it on the floor a few times.

If I already feel surrounded by a society of eye startling fat people,

what

Quoted message said:

will it be like a year from now?

Cubit

You're not thin yet so don't start counting your chickens before they're
hatched.

--
I wake up every morning and remember that I get to spend all day with me. It
doesn't get any better than that. -- MFW

"Cubit" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

"How often do you see them?"

"All the time... they're everywhere."

Just as the dead haunt the kid in the movie The Sixth Sense, I find I'm
startled by all the fat people I see everywhere. I used to only notice

just

Quoted message said:

the really really big people and feel like a friend had appeared. Now, it
is like a freak show. I'm surrounded by weird distended pot bellies and
rears that look 3 feet wide.

Maybe part of me assumed that everyone would be losing weight, now that

low

Quoted message said:

carb is well known. They're not. There is finally a diet fad that works,
and it will fade away just like the other fads. The studies needed to

prove

Quoted message said:

Atkins will require decades.

I ache to be thin again. Maybe because I want it so bad I see myself rail
thin in my mind. I'm making lists of things to do when I'm thin: Change
careers. Go swimming. Go to the beach. Buy tight clothes. Dye my hair.
Find more friends. (I almost said "Find new friends."😉 I wanna go to
nightclubs and be on TV to show off my [future] look.

Will I still be understanding with all the fat people out there? Will I

be

Quoted message said:

snotty and rude to them? To really appreciate a fur coat you have to

throw

Quoted message said:

it on the floor a few times.

If I already feel surrounded by a society of eye startling fat people,

what

Quoted message said:

will it be like a year from now?

Cubit

what is all this "thin" [censored] about? Screw being thin. There is a difference
between not being fat and being rail thin. why would you see yourself as
being rail thin? It's a sickness if you ask me, mostly among girls however..
You'd better be concerned about being fit -- strong and robust. Get off
your ass - get to the gym and start doing what you don't want to do. you
could still be dead a year from now. Oh, you likely won't see so many fat
people at the gym, so you'll have an escape...

Cubit wrote:
|| "How often do you see them?"
||
|| "All the time... they're everywhere."
||
|| Just as the dead haunt the kid in the movie The Sixth Sense, I find
|| I'm startled by all the fat people I see everywhere. I used to only
|| notice just the really really big people and feel like a friend had
|| appeared. Now, it is like a freak show. I'm surrounded by weird
|| distended pot bellies and rears that look 3 feet wide.
||
|| Maybe part of me assumed that everyone would be losing weight, now
|| that low carb is well known. They're not. There is finally a diet
|| fad that works, and it will fade away just like the other fads. The
|| studies needed to prove Atkins will require decades.
||
|| I ache to be thin again. Maybe because I want it so bad I see
|| myself rail thin in my mind. I'm making lists of things to do when
|| I'm thin: Change careers. Go swimming. Go to the beach. Buy
|| tight clothes. Dye my hair. Find more friends. (I almost said
|| "Find new friends."😉 I wanna go to nightclubs and be on TV to show
|| off my [future] look.
||
|| Will I still be understanding with all the fat people out there?
|| Will I be snotty and rude to them? To really appreciate a fur coat
|| you have to throw it on the floor a few times.
||
|| If I already feel surrounded by a society of eye startling fat
|| people, what will it be like a year from now?
||
|| Cubit

When I moved from the West coast to the Midwest, I saw a lot more fat
people.

I was 230 lbs at 5' 6" and knew I was at least "chubby".

But the move to the midwest was frightening...

Later, I began to understand some of the difference... I lived in a
upscale part of the West coast..... and moved to mid-scale and sub mid
scale Midwest.

I sat on my bike one evening last summer outside an expensive Italian
Ristorante.... and only saw one fat person go in.

I moved down the street to a local BBQ Ribs place and there were some of
the fat people that I would see when daily shopping in the malls.

I accidentally managed to start Atkins Low Carb a couple of months ago.
It was hard to actually start... I kept thinking that there must be ways
to eat low carb versions of the breads and fruits and pancakes and all
that other stuff. EVENTUALLY, I gave up and pretty much followed the
rules as written.

Jim

240/194/175

Cubit said:

"How often do you see them?"

"All the time... they're everywhere."

Just as the dead haunt the kid in the movie The Sixth Sense, I find I'm
startled by all the fat people I see everywhere. I used to only notice just
the really really big people and feel like a friend had appeared. Now, it
is like a freak show. I'm surrounded by weird distended pot bellies and
rears that look 3 feet wide.

Maybe part of me assumed that everyone would be losing weight, now that low
carb is well known. They're not. There is finally a diet fad that works,
and it will fade away just like the other fads. The studies needed to prove
Atkins will require decades.

I ache to be thin again. Maybe because I want it so bad I see myself rail
thin in my mind. I'm making lists of things to do when I'm thin: Change
careers. Go swimming. Go to the beach. Buy tight clothes. Dye my hair.
Find more friends. (I almost said "Find new friends."😉 I wanna go to
nightclubs and be on TV to show off my [future] look.

Will I still be understanding with all the fat people out there? Will I be
snotty and rude to them? To really appreciate a fur coat you have to throw
it on the floor a few times.

If I already feel surrounded by a society of eye startling fat people, what
will it be like a year from now?

Cubit

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"Cubit" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

"How often do you see them?"

"All the time... they're everywhere."

Just as the dead haunt the kid in the movie The Sixth Sense, I find I'm
startled by all the fat people I see everywhere. I used to only notice

just

Quoted message said:

the really really big people and feel like a friend had appeared. Now, it
is like a freak show. I'm surrounded by weird distended pot bellies and
rears that look 3 feet wide.

Maybe part of me assumed that everyone would be losing weight, now that

low

Quoted message said:

carb is well known. They're not. There is finally a diet fad that works,
and it will fade away just like the other fads. The studies needed to

prove

Quoted message said:

Atkins will require decades.

I ache to be thin again. Maybe because I want it so bad I see myself rail
thin in my mind. I'm making lists of things to do when I'm thin: Change
careers. Go swimming. Go to the beach. Buy tight clothes. Dye my hair.
Find more friends. (I almost said "Find new friends."😉 I wanna go to
nightclubs and be on TV to show off my [future] look.

Will I still be understanding with all the fat people out there? Will I

be

Quoted message said:

snotty and rude to them? To really appreciate a fur coat you have to

throw

Quoted message said:

it on the floor a few times.

If I already feel surrounded by a society of eye startling fat people,

what

Quoted message said:

will it be like a year from now?

Cubit

I think you would LOVE a comedy bit called "You People Are Fat" by The
Frantics.
--
ClabberHead 4.01 (who thought it was hilarious even before he started
dieting)
aka
Iron Chef Atkins
248.5/193.5/185.0 Low-Carb since 5/1/03
Al-Team #"e" to 27 decimal places (2.71828182845904523536028747...)
"Think about how stupid the average person is, then remember half of them
are stupider than that!" - George Carlin

Cubit said:

If I already feel surrounded by a society of eye startling fat people, what
will it be like a year from now?

Arouond Davis (California) it's not that bad. Most pople are thin to
chubby. The worst is seeing those chicks who think they are thin and
wear lowcut pants/skirts and high cut tops, so the fat tummys hang down
over the edge of the pant/skirt. I went near L.A. last week and there I
saw the real deal (including the countless McDonalds).

Hi,
On 16-Jul-2004, "Cubit" <[email hidden]> wrote:
Snip

Quoted message said:

Will I still be understanding with all the fat people out there?
Will I be snotty and rude to them? To really appreciate a fur coat
you have
to throw it on the floor a few times.

Snip

I went through an ugly phase, and I've seen some evidence of it now
and again in others here on the group over the years. It's not that I
became rude to people with weight problems, but mentally I started
*judging* them after I lost the weight. After I thought about it for
a while I came to the conclusion that it was my way of trying to
distance myself from the obese Carmen. In order to protect myself
from relapse I was demonizing the fat Carmen, and extending it to fat
people in general. Not pretty at all. Your reasons may be different,
but whenever my view of anything starts to shift radically I want to
know why.

Take care,
Carmen

"Cubit" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

"How often do you see them?"

"All the time... they're everywhere."

Just as the dead haunt the kid in the movie The Sixth Sense, I find I'm
startled by all the fat people I see everywhere. I used to only notice

just

Quoted message said:

the really really big people and feel like a friend had appeared. Now, it
is like a freak show. I'm surrounded by weird distended pot bellies and
rears that look 3 feet wide.

Quoted message said:

Maybe part of me assumed that everyone would be losing weight, now that

low

Quoted message said:

carb is well known. They're not. There is finally a diet fad that works,
and it will fade away just like the other fads. The studies needed to

prove

Quoted message said:

Atkins will require decades.

well there is that little niggling problem that it doesn't work for
everyone. weird how everyone isn't identical, isn't it?

Quoted message said:

I ache to be thin again. Maybe because I want it so bad I see myself rail
thin in my mind. I'm making lists of things to do when I'm thin: Change
careers. Go swimming. Go to the beach. Buy tight clothes. Dye my hair.
Find more friends. (I almost said "Find new friends."😉 I wanna go to
nightclubs and be on TV to show off my [future] look.

you sounds like you have an eating disorder.

Quoted message said:

Will I still be understanding with all the fat people out there? Will I

be

Quoted message said:

snotty and rude to them?

it sounds like you already are.

-kelly
fat/kinda fat/still curvy

Carmen said:

Hi,
On 16-Jul-2004, "Cubit" <[email hidden]> wrote:
Snip

Quoted message said:

Will I still be understanding with all the fat people out there?
Will I be snotty and rude to them? To really appreciate a fur coat
you have
to throw it on the floor a few times.

Snip

I went through an ugly phase, and I've seen some evidence of it now
and again in others here on the group over the years. It's not that I
became rude to people with weight problems, but mentally I started
*judging* them after I lost the weight. After I thought about it for
a while I came to the conclusion that it was my way of trying to
distance myself from the obese Carmen. In order to protect myself
from relapse I was demonizing the fat Carmen, and extending it to fat
people in general. Not pretty at all. Your reasons may be different,
but whenever my view of anything starts to shift radically I want to
know why.

Take care,
Carmen

I went through the same thing when I quit smoking. When I
found myself getting arrogant and thinking "Well, I quit,
why can't you?", then it was time to re-think and realize
that not everyone can do it as easy as I did. Same with
losing weight - it isn't as easy for everyone.

Marsha/Ohio

I still could stand to lose 20 pounds, weighing around 148-149 now. Not
really fat, not thin, and I have to say that I really don't notice what
people weigh, unless there is an extremely heavy person struggling, or
an anorexic person struggling. Except for the ladies at Curves today, I
couldn't tell you the body dimensions of anybody else I saw. I hope I
never can. I think people whose sole focus is weight have some kind of
disorder too. I could be wrong. :-)
--
Cheri
Type 2, no meds for now.

metta wrote in message <[email hidden]>...

Quoted message said:

you sounds like you have an eating disorder.

Quoted message said:

If I already feel surrounded by a society of eye startling fat people, what
will it be like a year from now?

Cubit

The same, maybe a little wiser, more compassionate. You been there, know what
its like to be fat.

Sunshyne said:

Quoted message said:

If I already feel surrounded by a society of eye startling fat
people, what will it be like a year from now?

Cubit

The same, maybe a little wiser, more compassionate. You been there,
know what its like to be fat.

I hope more compassionate. I am a little shocked at the lack of compassion.

--
nimue

"If I had created reality television I would have had a much greater
influence, but then I would have had to KILL MYSELF."
Joss Whedon

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

The same, maybe a little wiser, more compassionate. You been there,
know what its like to be fat.

I hope more compassionate. I am a little shocked at the lack of compassion.

--
nimue

"If I had created reality television I would have had a much greater
influence, but then I would have had to KILL MYSELF."
Joss Whedon

I been thinking about it, while reading posts. Its like he is judging others
that are fat. Why? Does it make himself feel better. Builds his self up? I
don't know what to think.

I posted about noticing more fat children at the swimming pool. But then, I
feel for them. Its not like I said my kids are getting slimmer!!! I can't stand
to look at these kids!

Hello,
Cubit:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Will I still be understanding with all the fat people out there?
Will I be snotty and rude to them? To really appreciate a fur
coat you have to throw it on the floor a few times.

Carmen:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I went through an ugly phase, and I've seen some evidence of it
now and again in others here on the group over the years. It's
not
that I became rude to people with weight problems, but mentally I
started
*judging* them after I lost the weight. After I thought about it
for a while I came to the conclusion that it was my way of trying
to
distance myself from the obese Carmen. In order to protect myself
from relapse I was demonizing the fat Carmen, and extending it to
fat people in general. Not pretty at all. Your reasons may be
different, but whenever my view of anything starts to shift
radically I want
to know why.

Marsha:

Quoted message said:

I went through the same thing when I quit smoking. When I
found myself getting arrogant and thinking "Well, I quit,
why can't you?", then it was time to re-think and realize
that not everyone can do it as easy as I did. Same with
losing weight - it isn't as easy for everyone.

<laughing> Come to think of it I did go through a holier-than-thou
phase after I quit too. Looking back I'm thankful because I think it
was somehow physically easier for me than many find it. I've seen
people I *know* are strong people struggle to quit time and again.
There must be differences in how strongly people become
physiologically addicted to nicotine.

Take care,
Carmen

Sunshyne said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

The same, maybe a little wiser, more compassionate. You been there,
know what its like to be fat.

I hope more compassionate. I am a little shocked at the lack of
compassion.

--
nimue

"If I had created reality television I would have had a much greater
influence, but then I would have had to KILL MYSELF."
Joss Whedon

I been thinking about it, while reading posts. Its like he is judging
others that are fat. Why? Does it make himself feel better. Builds
his self up? I don't know what to think.

I posted about noticing more fat children at the swimming pool. But
then, I feel for them. Its not like I said my kids are getting
slimmer!!! I can't stand to look at these kids!

When I was young, I was a geeky, nerdy kid. As an adult and a teacher, I
LOVE the geeky, nerdy kids. Why is that? Well, I think I came to terms
with my inner-geek. I embrace and love what I was because there was nothing
bad about it. There is nothing bad about being fat, either. Yes, it's
unhealthy, etc., but it's not bad -- not like being a bigot or a bully.
Those are bad things. Unless you understand that as a fat person you are
still good and valuble and worthy of love, you will probably despise
anything that reminds you of a time you felt you weren't. When I see people
who are obese I feel many things. I may feel compassion. I at times may
feel admiration. I work with an obese woman who still dresses with such
flair, such style -- I will NEVER be that stylish. She is also
exceptionally kind and funny. I may feel sympathy. I don't feel
contempt -- ever. How could I possibly dare -- I who know how hard it is to
be overweight and to lose weight? To feel contempt for them I would have to
loathe myself and I am not about to do that. I do not want to be fat. I
want to lose weight. I want to be healthy. However, other people must
decide for themselves and I would never judge them. They may have strengths
I could never imagine and I am not stupid enough to just judge people on
their looks.

--
nimue

"If I had created reality television I would have had a much greater
influence, but then I would have had to KILL MYSELF."
Joss Whedon

"nimue" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Sunshyne said:

Quoted message said:

> The same, maybe a little wiser, more compassionate. You been there,
> know what its like to be fat.

I hope more compassionate. I am a little shocked at the lack of
compassion.

--
nimue

"If I had created reality television I would have had a much greater
influence, but then I would have had to KILL MYSELF."
Joss Whedon

I been thinking about it, while reading posts. Its like he is judging
others that are fat. Why? Does it make himself feel better. Builds
his self up? I don't know what to think.

I posted about noticing more fat children at the swimming pool. But
then, I feel for them. Its not like I said my kids are getting
slimmer!!! I can't stand to look at these kids!

When I was young, I was a geeky, nerdy kid. As an adult and a teacher, I
LOVE the geeky, nerdy kids. Why is that? Well, I think I came to terms
with my inner-geek. I embrace and love what I was because there was

nothing

Quoted message said:

bad about it. There is nothing bad about being fat, either. Yes, it's
unhealthy, etc., but it's not bad -- not like being a bigot or a bully.
Those are bad things. Unless you understand that as a fat person you are
still good and valuble and worthy of love, you will probably despise
anything that reminds you of a time you felt you weren't. When I see

people

Quoted message said:

who are obese I feel many things. I may feel compassion. I at times may
feel admiration. I work with an obese woman who still dresses with such
flair, such style -- I will NEVER be that stylish. She is also
exceptionally kind and funny. I may feel sympathy. I don't feel
contempt -- ever. How could I possibly dare -- I who know how hard it is

to

Quoted message said:

be overweight and to lose weight? To feel contempt for them I would have

to

Quoted message said:

loathe myself and I am not about to do that. I do not want to be fat. I
want to lose weight. I want to be healthy. However, other people must
decide for themselves and I would never judge them. They may have

strengths

Quoted message said:

I could never imagine and I am not stupid enough to just judge people on
their looks.

--
nimue

"If I had created reality television I would have had a much greater
influence, but then I would have had to KILL MYSELF."
Joss Whedon

Perhaps they haven't reached that point in their life where they're ready to
take control and make a change. No matter how many times you've been urged
by well-meaning people, we all know that the change has to come from within.
No one can make you lose weight but yourself and you should only do it for
yourself. Otherwise you get resentful if you try to do it for others. I've
been lurking for awhile but this issue is near and dear to my heart. There
are too many people who ignore the obese as if it's a disease that is
contagious. I find it funny that the bigger you are, the more invisible you
become.

Denise

Cubit said:

"How often do you see them?"

"All the time... they're everywhere."

And you were once as fat as they. I also would hazard a guess that the
way you got fat was similar to theirs.

Just because Atkins has now made headlines doesn't mean everyone is
suddenly on it. It's still got a 'reputation' to overcome, as being
that 'bacon and eggs diet'. I used to believe the media's slant on
Atkins, too, until I read for myself.

There are people who are slimmer than you out there, too, who are
probably looking at you, and thinking "Hasn't this person ever heard of
Atkins?", but not saying it aloud.

Be careful because you may also be judged the same way you are judging
other people.

You're supposed to love all the kids.

What kind of sorry excuse for a teacher are you?

--
Did it ever occur to you that you are a hemorrhoid on the anus of
society? -- MFW

"nimue" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Sunshyne said:

Quoted message said:

> The same, maybe a little wiser, more compassionate. You been there,
> know what its like to be fat.

I hope more compassionate. I am a little shocked at the lack of
compassion.

--
nimue

"If I had created reality television I would have had a much greater
influence, but then I would have had to KILL MYSELF."
Joss Whedon

I been thinking about it, while reading posts. Its like he is judging
others that are fat. Why? Does it make himself feel better. Builds
his self up? I don't know what to think.

I posted about noticing more fat children at the swimming pool. But
then, I feel for them. Its not like I said my kids are getting
slimmer!!! I can't stand to look at these kids!

When I was young, I was a geeky, nerdy kid. As an adult and a teacher, I
LOVE the geeky, nerdy kids. Why is that? Well, I think I came to terms
with my inner-geek. I embrace and love what I was because there was

nothing

Quoted message said:

bad about it. There is nothing bad about being fat, either. Yes, it's
unhealthy, etc., but it's not bad -- not like being a bigot or a bully.
Those are bad things. Unless you understand that as a fat person you are
still good and valuble and worthy of love, you will probably despise
anything that reminds you of a time you felt you weren't. When I see

people

Quoted message said:

who are obese I feel many things. I may feel compassion. I at times may
feel admiration. I work with an obese woman who still dresses with such
flair, such style -- I will NEVER be that stylish. She is also
exceptionally kind and funny. I may feel sympathy. I don't feel
contempt -- ever. How could I possibly dare -- I who know how hard it is

to

Quoted message said:

be overweight and to lose weight? To feel contempt for them I would have

to

Quoted message said:

loathe myself and I am not about to do that. I do not want to be fat. I
want to lose weight. I want to be healthy. However, other people must
decide for themselves and I would never judge them. They may have

strengths

Quoted message said:

I could never imagine and I am not stupid enough to just judge people on
their looks.

--
nimue

"If I had created reality television I would have had a much greater
influence, but then I would have had to KILL MYSELF."
Joss Whedon

Ignoramus22273 wrote:
|| In article <[email hidden]>, Marsha
|| wrote:
||| Carmen wrote:
|||
|||| Hi,
|||| On 16-Jul-2004, "Cubit" <[email hidden]> wrote:
|||| Snip
||||
||||| Will I still be understanding with all the fat people out there?
||||| Will I be snotty and rude to them? To really appreciate a fur
||||| coat you have
||||| to throw it on the floor a few times.
||||
|||| Snip
||||
|||| I went through an ugly phase, and I've seen some evidence of it now
|||| and again in others here on the group over the years. It's not
|||| that I became rude to people with weight problems, but mentally I
|||| started *judging* them after I lost the weight. After I thought
|||| about it for a while I came to the conclusion that it was my way
|||| of trying to distance myself from the obese Carmen. In order to
|||| protect myself from relapse I was demonizing the fat Carmen, and
|||| extending it to fat people in general. Not pretty at all. Your
|||| reasons may be different, but whenever my view of anything starts
|||| to shift radically I want to know why.
||||
|||| Take care,
|||| Carmen
|||
||| I went through the same thing when I quit smoking. When I
||| found myself getting arrogant and thinking "Well, I quit,
||| why can't you?", then it was time to re-think and realize
||| that not everyone can do it as easy as I did. Same with
||| losing weight - it isn't as easy for everyone.
|||
||| Marsha/Ohio
|||
||
|| I also went through an ugly phase. But then it sort of subsided.

Sort of....but certainly not fully.