I told you so.

"Benjamin Weiner" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Okay, let me express myself more clearly. You
clearly enjoy

taking LANCE down a peg. Don't then turn around and emit
gasbag sportswriter cliches: Oh, it's so sad, what a
terrible situation we are in from a sporting point of
view. That's two-faced. Either revel in it, or righteously
decry it, but not both.

As far as I know, I haven't done anything to Lance that
comes close to taking him "down a peg." Emma apparently has.
When do you think Lance will call her a liar? In his court
filing tomorrow?

I will admit to an enjoyment of seeing truth come to light
and justice come round in the end, especially when it comes
to rather arrogant, hypocritical people. I wonder how
Bassons is felling about now. ;-)

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B. Lafferty said:

"Benjamin Weiner" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Okay, let me express myself more clearly. You clearly
enjoy

taking LANCE down a peg. Don't then turn around and emit
gasbag sportswriter cliches: Oh, it's so sad, what a
terrible situation we are in from a sporting point of
view. That's two-faced. Either revel in it, or
righteously decry it, but not both.

As far as I know, I haven't done anything to Lance that
comes close to taking him "down a peg." Emma apparently
has. When do you think Lance will call her a liar? In his
court filing tomorrow?

I will admit to an enjoyment of seeing truth come to light
and justice come round in the end, especially when it
comes to rather arrogant, hypocritical people. I wonder
how Bassons is felling about now. ;-)

Well, Brian when you say you enjoy seeing "justice come
round in the end", it kind of implies that you've thought
there was something stinkie with LA from the get-go. I'm
not a big fan of Lance (a phrase which has become almost
as ubiquitous as "Saddam is a bad guy, etc..."😉, but I'd
rather see things go a different way: If the authors
really had any solid evidence, they ought to take it to
the proper authorities and let them deal with it, rather
than this method. A method which can be summed up (to me)
as, "We don't really have enough solid evidence to do
something through the proper channels, so we'll just lob
it out to be tried in the public/media via implication
and innuendo. Oh, and we'll make a buck or two in the
process - but that's secondary..."

As for Bassons, he's probably feeling just as smug as he
did before.

--
tanx, Howard

"Copper will never be gold" Shellac

remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?

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Lafferty said:

"Benjamin Weiner" <[email hidden]> wrote in
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> Okay, let me express myself more clearly. You clearly
> enjoy
taking LANCE down a peg. Don't then turn around and
emit gasbag sportswriter cliches: Oh, it's so sad,
what a terrible situation we are in from a sporting
point of view. That's two-faced. Either revel in it,
or righteously decry it, but not both.

As far as I know, I haven't done anything to Lance that
comes close to taking him "down a peg." Emma apparently
has. When do you think Lance

will

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call her a liar? In his court filing tomorrow?

I will admit to an enjoyment of seeing truth come to
light and justice

come

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round in the end, especially when it comes to rather
arrogant,

hypocritical

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people. I wonder how Bassons is felling about now. ;-)

Well, Brian when you say you enjoy seeing "justice come
round in the end", it kind of implies that you've
thought there was something stinkie with LA from the
get-go. I'm not a big fan of Lance (a phrase which has
become almost as ubiquitous as "Saddam is a bad guy,
etc..."😉, but I'd rather see things go a different way:
If the authors really had any solid evidence, they
ought to take it to the proper authorities and let them

deal

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with it, rather than this method. A method which can be
summed up (to me) as, "We don't really have enough solid
evidence to do something through

the

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proper channels, so we'll just lob it out to be tried in
the public/media via implication and innuendo. Oh, and
we'll make a buck or two in the process - but that's
secondary..."

Don't forget, Walsh has been investigating and writing about
drug use in a number of sports, not just cycling. Truth has
a way of coming out. Ask Bush and Cheney.

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As for Bassons, he's probably feeling just as smug as
he did before.

Smug? Hmmmm. I would think [censored] Pound is smiling as well.

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[email hidden] (Tom Arsenault) wrote ...

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[email hidden] (Richard Adams) wrote...

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Thank goodness this another load about Armstrong
doping. I was getting pretty tired of Ronald Reagan
threads.

"B. Lafferty" <HATER> wrote...
> Lance Armstrong--All American Hero Born: 1999 Died:
> June 13, 2004 "I Never Tested Positive"
>
> Cut down near the end of his atheletic prime by the
> spoken, detailed words of Emma O'Reilly, Greg and
> Kathy Lemond, and others.
> R. I. P.

Why are you such a hater? Is it that hard to like
someone who is winning? I'm betting that back in '99
when Armstrong won his first Tour you were all about his
[censored]. But then, as it is unfashionable to like someone
who wins, you turn on him. I'm betting you were a fan
and excited to see him win in '99, and probably 2000.
And even 2001. But then when he started winning too
much, all of a sudden, Lance sucks. Look, I'm not the
biggest Armstrong fan, I like Jan more, but the exposure
Armstrong has given to cycling in the US is
unprecedented. He is singularly turning people onto the
sport. I know you want this to be an elitist "I was
there first" kind of sport, but in my opinion, the more
people, the better. And the other good things he's done
for cancer research, it's all good. So he's never tested
positive, and he's never been busted. I'm to believe a
bunch of French guys who really have no proof? Even
after the whole damn French government tried to bring
down the Postal team for a couple of years, and couldn't
find anything? Yeah, I don't think so. If he is doping
and gets busted, then we can disown him. Until then,
innocent until proven guilty.

Tom

That's exactly what I think of Lafferty too - a
major hater.

He's a complete fool as well because if fu**ing obssessed
about trying to bring down Lance and proves it 20 times
daily in RBR to the entire world.

I wonder if Lafferty has ever liked, understood, or
appreciated L.A.? Maybe because Lance is conservative and
Lafferty a raging, old school liberal it makes some sense.

About the only racer I cannnot stand is the [censored] who
cold-cocked Myerson.

Do I hate drug cheats? Not at all. Nearly all people have
weaknesses. Do I like drug cheats who absue perforamnce
enhancing drugs in order to win? Of course not, they suck.
But they DO get found out in time. And if they redeem
themselves a year or so later then they are worthy of
praise. I wonder what the formerly drug-loaded Rumsas will
do for an encore?

When I wrote that Lafferty was obsessed with drug use and
that he effectively claimed that everyone that is any good
at bicycle racnig HAS to be using drugs he denied it.

So you have to wonder how his mind works if that's the
proper use of the term "works".

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That's exactly what I think of Lafferty too - a
major hater.

He's a complete fool as well because if fu**ing obssessed
about trying to bring down Lance and proves it 20 times
daily in RBR to the entire world.

I wonder if Lafferty has ever liked, understood, or
appreciated L.A.? Maybe because Lance is conservative and
Lafferty a raging, old school liberal it makes some sense.

It's known that Lance surfs this group under the guise
of one heather halvorson. Lafferty's just helping Lance
keep it real.

[email hidden] (Tom Kunich) wrote...

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[email hidden] (Richard Adams) wrote...
> Thank goodness this another load about Armstrong
> doping. I was getting pretty tired of Ronald Reagan
> threads.
>
> "B. Lafferty" <HATER> wrote...
> > Lance Armstrong--All American Hero Born: 1999
> > Died: June 13, 2004 "I Never Tested Positive"
> >
> > Cut down near the end of his atheletic prime by
> > the spoken, detailed words of Emma O'Reilly, Greg
> > and Kathy Lemond, and others.
> > R. I. P.

Why are you such a hater? Is it that hard to like
someone who is winning? I'm betting that back in '99
when Armstrong won his first Tour you were all about
his [censored]. But then, as it is unfashionable to like
someone who wins, you turn on him. I'm betting you
were a fan and excited to see him win in '99, and
probably 2000. And even 2001. But then when he started
winning too much, all of a sudden, Lance sucks. Look,
I'm not the biggest Armstrong fan, I like Jan more,
but the exposure Armstrong has given to cycling in the
US is unprecedented. He is singularly turning people
onto the sport. I know you want this to be an elitist
"I was there first" kind of sport, but in my opinion,
the more people, the better. And the other good things
he's done for cancer research, it's all good. So he's
never tested positive, and he's never been busted. I'm
to believe a bunch of French guys who really have no
proof? Even after the whole damn French government
tried to bring down the Postal team for a couple of
years, and couldn't find anything? Yeah, I don't think
so. If he is doping and gets busted, then we can
disown him. Until then, innocent until proven guilty.

Tom

That's exactly what I think of Lafferty too - a major
hater.

He's a complete fool as well because if fu**ing
obssessed about trying to bring down Lance and proves it
20 times daily in RBR to the entire world.

I wonder if Lafferty has ever liked, understood, or
appreciated L.A.? Maybe because Lance is conservative
and Lafferty a raging, old school liberal it makes some
sense.

About the only racer I cannnot stand is the [censored] who
cold-cocked Myerson...

When I wrote that Lafferty was obsessed with drug use and
that he effectively claimed that everyone that is any good
at bicycle racnig HAS to be using drugs he denied it.

So you have to wonder how his mind works if that's the
proper use of the term "works".

Lafferty's too smart to follow-up too.

Oh well... innuendo mongerers and haters like him will never
go away. They just make life less fun for a lot of people
for being so constantly negative.

I am sure famous people feel that way when stalkers don't
leave them alone.

-Ken

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Thank goodness this another load about Armstrong doping.
I was getting pretty tired of Ronald Reagan threads.

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Lance Armstrong--All American Hero Born: 1999 Died:
June 13, 2004 "I Never Tested Positive"

Cut down near the end of his atheletic prime by the
spoken, detailed words of Emma O'Reilly, Greg and
Kathy Lemond, and others.
R. I. P.

Why are you such a hater?

[snipped: a bunch of misdirected junk I didn't bother to
read]

You obviously missed the dry humor. Perhaps I'm just not
that good at
it.

I don't buy all that [censored] about Lance doping and am one whom
holds him in high regard. I take all the allegations with a
salt-lick.

While many other things transpired the news was utterly
overrun with stuff about Reagan and all his wonderfulness
and how we all should miss him. (Well, he does look stellar
compared to the current WH occupant.)

Today's news seems the be a lot of worry about Britney
Spears bum knee and how her own Tour plans are being
scrapped.

Meanwhile my Pistons dismantled the Lackers as well they
should have and the sports news is all about Phil and
Kobe and Carl and Shaq and Gary and so on. The team is
old and just plain ran out of steam, time to scrap it and
start over.

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Originally posted by Steven
Secondly, I love it when people state that other
use logical fallacies to prove there areguments but don't
even bother to support their accusation....Tells me they
learned debate from George W. Bush

Sorry about that. I guess what seems obvious to some wouldn't be obvious to you.