If the wife complains about cycling costs.



Simon Mason wrote:
> Like new jerseys or groupsets. I like to have this handy ;-)
> You were saying dear?
>
> http://www.swldxer.co.uk:80/zservice.jpg

You could always charge them £1,000 to point out one of the grammatical
errors on their invoice - "This does not EFFECT your statutory rights"

Pete
 
Simon Mason wrote:

>Like new jerseys or groupsets. I like to have this handy ;-)
>You were saying dear?
>
>http://www.swldxer.co.uk:80/zservice.jpg

OUCH!!!! In excess of 1200 of your pounds sterling to get a tin can
through an MOT.
--
Phil Cook looking north over the park to the "Westminster Gasworks"
 
On Fri, 06 Apr 2007 21:31:15 +0100, Phil Cook
<[email protected]> wrote:

>>http://www.swldxer.co.uk:80/zservice.jpg
>
>OUCH!!!! In excess of 1200 of your pounds sterling to get a tin can
>through an MOT.

Bit more than that - they've also charged him for a new water pump,
although I can't see that they've actually *fitted* it in the list of
repairs carried out.
 
On 6 Apr, 23:24, Andrew Price <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Bit more than that - they've also charged him for a new water pump,
> although I can't see that they've actually *fitted* it in the list of
> repairs carried out.

Probably broke it whilst changing the cambelt ;) or the bearings felt
rough so changed it ("he's having a bit of work done on it anyway")
 
In article <[email protected]>,
squeaker
[email protected] says...
> On 6 Apr, 23:24, Andrew Price <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > Bit more than that - they've also charged him for a new water pump,
> > although I can't see that they've actually *fitted* it in the list of
> > repairs carried out.
>
> Probably broke it whilst changing the cambelt ;) or the bearings felt
> rough so changed it ("he's having a bit of work done on it anyway")
>
You mean you're supposed to replace them before they start spewing water
all over the place?
:)
 
"squeaker" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On 6 Apr, 23:24, Andrew Price <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Bit more than that - they've also charged him for a new water pump,
>> although I can't see that they've actually *fitted* it in the list of
>> repairs carried out.
>
> Probably broke it whilst changing the cambelt ;) or the bearings felt
> rough so changed it ("he's having a bit of work done on it anyway")

Makes sense to do the water pump and variators at the same time.
I actually asked for the cambelt + plugs and was warned that it would be
costly, but it's cheaper than a new engine and hopefully should last another
3-4 years.

--
Simon Mason
http://www.simonmason.karoo.net
 
Simon Mason <[email protected]> whizzed past me shouting
>
>Makes sense to do the water pump and variators at the same time.
>I actually asked for the cambelt + plugs and was warned that it would be
>costly, but it's cheaper than a new engine and hopefully should last another
>3-4 years.
>

But your engine's burning oil, which means it's time for an engine
change. Is the car worth £1200 anyway?

--
Sue ]:(:)

Why aren't we advocating regular retests for motorists?
It's obvious a lot of them would fail and that'd solve the road congestion problem too.
 
Sue White wrote:
> Simon Mason <[email protected]> whizzed past me shouting
>>
>> Makes sense to do the water pump and variators at the same time.
>> I actually asked for the cambelt + plugs and was warned that it would be
>> costly, but it's cheaper than a new engine and hopefully should last
>> another
>> 3-4 years.
>>
>
> But your engine's burning oil, which means it's time for an engine
> change. Is the car worth £1200 anyway?
>
Maybe, maybe not. The question is whether it's worth the cost per mile
to drive the car once you take servicing into account.

A
 
On Fri, 6 Apr 2007 19:29:03 +0100, "Simon Mason"
<[email protected]> said in
<[email protected]>:

>Like new jerseys or groupsets. I like to have this handy ;-)
>http://www.swldxer.co.uk:80/zservice.jpg

Fix It Again, Tony.

Asitappens, we are looking at possibly replacing the MDG with one of
them Toyota Prius jobs. As an "out" geek, I find it horribly
compelling.

Guy
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Just zis Guy, you know? wrote:
> On Fri, 6 Apr 2007 19:29:03 +0100, "Simon Mason"
> <[email protected]> said in
> <[email protected]>:
>
>> Like new jerseys or groupsets. I like to have this handy ;-)
>> http://www.swldxer.co.uk:80/zservice.jpg
>
> Fix It Again, Tony.
>
> Asitappens, we are looking at possibly replacing the MDG with one of
> them Toyota Prius jobs. As an "out" geek, I find it horribly
> compelling.
>
> Guy

We got one of those, i'm not sure if it worth it on strictly monetary
grounds, but its a nice car, does 45 to 50 mph mesured mileage and is very
relaxed to drive. Not for those who like a sporty drive, it goes fast enough
but without much display of power. I find it suits the kind of driving style
that you tend to do after cycling a bit in traffic, which is more about
smoothness, keeping space in front of you and conserving momentum, than
driving right up to the stopping distance all the time.

--
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AndyMorris <[email protected]> wrote:

> Just zis Guy, you know? wrote:
> > On Fri, 6 Apr 2007 19:29:03 +0100, "Simon Mason"
> > <[email protected]> said in
> > <[email protected]>:
> >
> >> Like new jerseys or groupsets. I like to have this handy ;-)
> >> http://www.swldxer.co.uk:80/zservice.jpg
> >
> > Fix It Again, Tony.
> >
> > Asitappens, we are looking at possibly replacing the MDG with one of
> > them Toyota Prius jobs. As an "out" geek, I find it horribly
> > compelling.
> >
> > Guy
>
> We got one of those, i'm not sure if it worth it on strictly monetary
> grounds, but its a nice car, does 45 to 50 mph mesured mileage and is very
> relaxed to drive. Not for those who like a sporty drive, it goes fast enough
> but without much display of power. I find it suits the kind of driving style
> that you tend to do after cycling a bit in traffic, which is more about
> smoothness, keeping space in front of you and conserving momentum, than
> driving right up to the stopping distance all the time.

the mpg isn't dramticly higher than other cars, but it's promice i guess
is that "green" can sell.

roger
 
Roger Merriman wrote:

>AndyMorris <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Just zis Guy, you know? wrote:
>> > On Fri, 6 Apr 2007 19:29:03 +0100, "Simon Mason"
>> > <[email protected]> said in
>> > <[email protected]>:
>> >
>> >> Like new jerseys or groupsets. I like to have this handy ;-)
>> >> http://www.swldxer.co.uk:80/zservice.jpg
>> >
>> > Fix It Again, Tony.
>> >
>> > Asitappens, we are looking at possibly replacing the MDG with one of
>> > them Toyota Prius jobs. As an "out" geek, I find it horribly
>> > compelling.

>> We got one of those, i'm not sure if it worth it on strictly monetary
>> grounds, but its a nice car, does 45 to 50 mph mesured mileage and is very
>> relaxed to drive.
>
>the mpg isn't dramticly higher than other cars, but it's promice i guess
>is that "green" can sell.

45-50 over what kind or driving? My now seemingly ancient turbo-diesel
Pug 306 with a mechanical injection pump manages to get about 45mpg
when I drive it to Scotland. It hasn't moved in a while though. I'm
begininng to wonder whether I can actually manage without it.
--
Phil Cook looking north over the park to the "Westminster Gasworks"
 
On 8 Apr, 01:47, [email protected] (Roger Merriman) wrote:
> AndyMorris <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> the mpg isn't dramticly higher than other cars, but it's promice i guess
> is that "green" can sell.
>
> roger

Pity it isn't then - general consensus is that the total life cycle
cost is ~2.5x that of a conventional car due to the energy cost of all
the electrical bits :(
 
On 8 Apr, 08:28, "squeaker" <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 8 Apr, 01:47, [email protected] (Roger Merriman) wrote:
>
> > AndyMorris <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > the mpg isn't dramticly higher than other cars, but it's promice i guess
> > is that "green" can sell.
>
> > roger
>
> Pity it isn't then - general consensus is that the total life cycle
> cost is ~2.5x that of a conventional car due to the energy cost of all
> the electrical bits :(

Oops, meant 'life cycle energy cost'........
 
squeaker wrote:
> On 8 Apr, 08:28, "squeaker" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On 8 Apr, 01:47, [email protected] (Roger Merriman) wrote:
>>
>>> AndyMorris <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> the mpg isn't dramticly higher than other cars, but it's promice i guess
>>> is that "green" can sell.
>>> roger
>> Pity it isn't then - general consensus is that the total life cycle
>> cost is ~2.5x that of a conventional car due to the energy cost of all
>> the electrical bits :(
>
> Oops, meant 'life cycle energy cost'........

Despite the advertising, I don't think the Prius is about being green at
the moment (other than displacing some pollution from cities). It is
more about being a technology forerunner that will help to understand
and improve the next generations of cars. If we all bought them now it
would be really bad for the environment, but long term having a few
around now is a good thing as a kind of extended test of the technologies.

http://www.alternative-energy.co.uk/TRANSPORT/AT_PDFs/05Hyb_IC_cnw_0406[1].pdf

Matt
 
Just zis Guy, you know? wrote on 07/04/2007 23:05 +0100:
>
> Asitappens, we are looking at possibly replacing the MDG with one of
> them Toyota Prius jobs. As an "out" geek, I find it horribly
> compelling.
>

Got myself one of them recently and the family call it the spaceship!
Very interesting to drive for a geek like me and getting 50-65mpg for a
family sized car on the motorways without trying. Plus only £15 road
tax now. Interesting to drive because of the techno-gagetry aspects but
you feel somewhat disconnected from the outside world.


--
Tony

"The most savage controversies are those about matters as to which there
is no good evidence either way."
- Bertrand Russell
 
Roger Merriman wrote on 08/04/2007 01:47 +0100:
>
> the mpg isn't dramticly higher than other cars, but it's promice i guess
> is that "green" can sell.
>

It is for a car of its size - which is a proper family sized car. Its
also misleading because a lot of the high mpg cars are diesels. Because
fuel is sold by volume, not weight, diesels come out proportionately
better in apparent fuel consumption because of the higher fuel density.
But the CO2 figures give away how much fuel you are really burning.

--
Tony

"The most savage controversies are those about matters as to which there
is no good evidence either way."
- Bertrand Russell
 
On Sun, 8 Apr 2007 01:18:19 +0100,
AndyMorris <[email protected]> wrote:
[about Prius]
>
> We got one of those, i'm not sure if it worth it on strictly monetary
> grounds, but its a nice car, does 45 to 50 mph mesured mileage and is very
> relaxed to drive. Not for those who like a sporty drive, it goes fast enough
>

Back when I had a car, it was a '92J 205 (non-turbo) Diesel.

For the years when I was self employed and keeping detailed records I
was averaging 52-55 mpg over the year.

After I stopped being self employed I'd still usually reckon on 400+
miles between filling up

Tim.


--
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and there was light.

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On Sun, 08 Apr 2007 10:06:50 +0100,
Tony Raven <[email protected]> wrote:
> Roger Merriman wrote on 08/04/2007 01:47 +0100:
>>
>> the mpg isn't dramticly higher than other cars, but it's promice i guess
>> is that "green" can sell.
>>
>
> It is for a car of its size - which is a proper family sized car. Its
> also misleading because a lot of the high mpg cars are diesels. Because
> fuel is sold by volume, not weight, diesels come out proportionately
> better in apparent fuel consumption because of the higher fuel density.
> But the CO2 figures give away how much fuel you are really burning.
>
Diesel engines have a higher intrinsic efficiency due to their higher
compression ratio.

Also diesel is generally simpler and uses less energy to refine than petrol.

Tim.

--
God said, "div D = rho, div B = 0, curl E = - @B/@t, curl H = J + @D/@t,"
and there was light.

http://tjw.hn.org/ http://www.locofungus.btinternet.co.uk/
 
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