Indoor pool temps

filmgeek said:

Why do most Rec Centres keep their pools soooo warm ? God ,
sheeeeshhhh, a nice 20 Celsius would be fine, not refreshing enough

Sometimes it is because they do arthritis-specific pool exercises, and
warm water is required for that. Here in the US, there is a specific
temperature which is required for Arthritis Foundation certification of
the pool exercises.
And also, I think they keep pools warmer where they are frequently used
by small children. Their mass to surface area ratio makes them get cold
more easily.
Madelaine

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Why do most Rec Centres keep their pools soooo warm ? God ,
sheeeeshhhh, a nice 20 Celsius would be fine, not refreshing enough

I have noticed that the local pool seems warmer, although the staff says
they keep it the same temperature year 'round. I think the outside
temperature affects the way we "feel" the water temp. When it is 98 degrees
F outside here, the indoor pool seems warmer to me. And when it is 40
degrees F outside, the same pool just seems colder.

Pat in TX

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Pat in TX said:

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Why do most Rec Centres keep their pools soooo warm ? God ,
sheeeeshhhh, a nice 20 Celsius would be fine, not refreshing enough

20 celsius is very cold for pool water! Most lean swimmer are
complaining at about 25 Celsius.

That is a matter o heat transport that is higher in water than in air!

20 C = 68F
25 C = 77F

98F = 37C
40 F = 4C

Nelson

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I have noticed that the local pool seems warmer, although the staff says
they keep it the same temperature year 'round. I think the outside
temperature affects the way we "feel" the water temp. When it is 98 degrees
F outside here, the indoor pool seems warmer to me. And when it is 40
degrees F outside, the same pool just seems colder.

Pat in TX

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20 celsius is very cold for pool water! Most lean swimmer are
complaining at about 25 Celsius.

That is a matter o heat transport that is higher in water than in air!

20 C = 68F
25 C = 77F

98F = 37C
40 F = 4C

I don't know for sure, but isn't there some temperature that is de rigueur
for competition? And, shouldn't an indoor pool strive to meet
that?(supposing, of course, that the pool management isn't also providing
water aerobics for older people or a thermal pool for arthritis sufferers).

On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 18:59:56 -0500, "Pat in TX" <[email hidden]>

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20 celsius is very cold for pool water! Most lean swimmer are
complaining at about 25 Celsius.

That is a matter o heat transport that is higher in water than in air!

20 C = 68F
25 C = 77F

98F = 37C
40 F = 4C

I don't know for sure, but isn't there some temperature that is de rigueur
for competition?

Yep. 25-28C (77 to 82.4F) per 103.7.1 of USA Swimming Rules and Regs.
Probably comes direct from FINA.

Dave Clary/Corpus Christi, Tx
Home: http://davidclary.com

I have also noticed that outside air temp seems to make a difference.

Also, I used to swim in our competition pool that is kept between 79-80 deg
F, and I never warmed up, but I can no longer tolerate feeling cold for an
extended swim, so now I head to the diving well where it is kept at 86. A
few years ago 86 was too hot for me, but now it is comfortable, sad but
true.

Marianne

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Why do most Rec Centres keep their pools soooo warm ? God ,
sheeeeshhhh, a nice 20 Celsius would be fine, not refreshing enough

I have noticed that the local pool seems warmer, although the staff says
they keep it the same temperature year 'round. I think the outside
temperature affects the way we "feel" the water temp. When it is 98
degrees F outside here, the indoor pool seems warmer to me. And when it
is 40 degrees F outside, the same pool just seems colder.

Pat in TX

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Madelaine said:

And also, I think they keep pools warmer where they are frequently used
by small children. Their mass to surface area ratio makes them get cold
more easily.
Madelaine

I've noticed that pools that are frequented by large groups of small
children tend towards 98.6°F, especially in the shallow end.

Dave Clary said:

On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 18:59:56 -0500, "Pat in TX" <[email hidden]>

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Quoted message said:

20 celsius is very cold for pool water! Most lean swimmer are
complaining at about 25 Celsius.

That is a matter o heat transport that is higher in water than in air!

20 C = 68F
25 C = 77F

98F = 37C
40 F = 4C

I don't know for sure, but isn't there some temperature that is de rigueur
for competition?

Yep. 25-28C (77 to 82.4F) per 103.7.1 of USA Swimming Rules and Regs.
Probably comes direct from FINA.

In my experience, the management in the pool where I swim receives my
complaim to lower to temp and the complain of the begginer swimmers to
raise the temperature, so they make everyone unhappy by keeping it in
the middle! 😉

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In my experience, the management in the pool where I swim receives my
complaim to lower to temp and the complain of the begginer swimmers to
raise the temperature, so they make everyone unhappy by keeping it in
the middle! 😉

That was what it was like at the club where I used to swim. The swimmers
wanted it around 78-82 and the little ol' ladies in the water aerobics
classes wanted it at 92+. One woman even demanded that the manager drain
out an inch of water prior to the water aerobics class and then he could
refill it after the class was over (because she was short). So, he would try
and accommodate everybody--which meant no one was happy!

At the new place, the 24 Hour Fitness Center, the management just said not
even to come and complain because the pool would stay between 80-82 and they
wouldn't listen to pleas to change it.

Pat in TX

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I have also noticed that outside air temp seems to make a difference.

Also, I used to swim in our competition pool that is kept between 79-80
deg F, and I never warmed up, but I can no longer tolerate feeling cold
for an extended swim, so now I head to the diving well where it is kept at
86. A few years ago 86 was too hot for me, but now it is comfortable, sad
but true.

My local Y has two pools, one kept at 83 and one kept at 86. Seems to be a
reasonable solution. The 83 degree pool is prefered by most of the serious
swimmers, and the warmer pool is prefered by everyone else. 83 is warm
enough that kids swimming lessons can be conducted in it and no one
complains too terribly, while still cool enough that one can get a decent
swim workout in without overheating - at least for me. 86, OTOH, is still
too cool for standing around for an hour but it's close to being OK, and
it's still kinda, sorta survivable for a swim workout in a pinch. They'd
make the warm pool even warmer but, due to scheduling issue, the swim team
has to practice in it sometimes. They hold meets in it, too.

-S-

One thing that I find very interesting is when I was in Denver recently
their Y had the pool temp posted as 86 so I figured it would be comfortable
for me since that is what the PU diving well is where I usually swim. But,
in Denver, 86 felt awful and it tired me out. One day they had it posted at
83 and that felt perfect to me. It also felt cooler than the diving well at
PU. But, 83 at PU or at the Ys in Indiana where I live, is too cold for me.
How can this be? Maybe it has to do with the dryer climate in Colorado.

Marianne

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I have also noticed that outside air temp seems to make a difference.

Also, I used to swim in our competition pool that is kept between 79-80
deg F, and I never warmed up, but I can no longer tolerate feeling cold
for an extended swim, so now I head to the diving well where it is kept
at 86. A few years ago 86 was too hot for me, but now it is comfortable,
sad but true.

My local Y has two pools, one kept at 83 and one kept at 86. Seems to be
a reasonable solution. The 83 degree pool is prefered by most of the
serious swimmers, and the warmer pool is prefered by everyone else. 83 is
warm enough that kids swimming lessons can be conducted in it and no one
complains too terribly, while still cool enough that one can get a decent
swim workout in without overheating - at least for me. 86, OTOH, is still
too cool for standing around for an hour but it's close to being OK, and
it's still kinda, sorta survivable for a swim workout in a pinch. They'd
make the warm pool even warmer but, due to scheduling issue, the swim team
has to practice in it sometimes. They hold meets in it, too.

-S-

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One thing that I find very interesting is when I was in Denver recently
their Y had the pool temp posted as 86 so I figured it would be
comfortable for me since that is what the PU diving well is where I
usually swim. But, in Denver, 86 felt awful and it tired me out. One day
they had it posted at 83 and that felt perfect to me. It also felt cooler
than the diving well at PU. But, 83 at PU or at the Ys in Indiana where I
live, is too cold for me. How can this be? Maybe it has to do with the
dryer climate in Colorado.

There are variables here. One is simply what sort of mood you're in - I
know if I get to the pool after having lifted weights earlier in the day,
the water always feels warmer than if it's my first exercise that day. If
I'm feeling especially tired, the water always is harder to get into.

It's also worth mentioning that most thermostats have a perceptable range of
temperatures. I believe our Y goes +/- one degree Farenheit, which means
the pool might be 82 and it might be 84. When I teach, I'm in and out of
the pool for about 2 hours, and I do sometimes notice, or at least I think I
do, when the heater has kicked on and warmed the water a bit.

And I'm sure air temperature and/or humidity can play a part, and other
things I haven't thought of and you haven't mentioned.

Last but not least, the temperature they post isn't always the temperature
the water really is.

-S-

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Marianne

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I have also noticed that outside air temp seems to make a difference.

Also, I used to swim in our competition pool that is kept between 79-80
deg F, and I never warmed up, but I can no longer tolerate feeling cold
for an extended swim, so now I head to the diving well where it is kept
at 86. A few years ago 86 was too hot for me, but now it is comfortable,
sad but true.

My local Y has two pools, one kept at 83 and one kept at 86. Seems to be
a reasonable solution. The 83 degree pool is prefered by most of the
serious swimmers, and the warmer pool is prefered by everyone else. 83
is warm enough that kids swimming lessons can be conducted in it and no
one complains too terribly, while still cool enough that one can get a
decent swim workout in without overheating - at least for me. 86, OTOH,
is still too cool for standing around for an hour but it's close to being
OK, and it's still kinda, sorta survivable for a swim workout in a pinch.
They'd make the warm pool even warmer but, due to scheduling issue, the
swim team has to practice in it sometimes. They hold meets in it, too.

-S-