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  1. I just got my hands on a Paramount Series 7 PDG frame.
    It is a 56cm C-T with a 56 TT. The BB has a 68 imprinted on it wich I
    assume means the BB diameter. The serial number is 2E01248. It is made of
    Tange tubing and has 130mm rear spacing. Aside from that I know nothing
    about this frame.
    Any help on finding out the year it was made and frame angles would be great
    help.

    Thanks
    Jeff

  2. "Jeff & Jane" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I just got my hands on a Paramount Series 7 PDG frame.
    It is a 56cm C-T with a 56 TT. The BB has a 68 imprinted on it wich I
    assume means the BB diameter. The serial number is 2E01248. It is made


    of

    Quoted message said:

    Tange tubing and has 130mm rear spacing. Aside from that I know nothing
    about this frame.
    Any help on finding out the year it was made and frame angles would be


    great

    Quoted message said:

    help.


    Go here:

    http://www.waterfordbikes.com/2004/data/culture/paramount/index.php

  3. Jeff & Jane said:

    The BB has a 68 imprinted on it which I
    assume means the BB diameter.

    That's the BB width (68mm). It's probably English thread.

    Art Harris

  4. On 04/25/2004 12:59 PM, in article
    [email hidden], "Jeff & Jane"

    Quoted message said:

    I just got my hands on a Paramount Series 7 PDG frame.
    It is a 56cm C-T with a 56 TT. The BB has a 68 imprinted on it wich I
    assume means the BB diameter. The serial number is 2E01248. It is made of
    Tange tubing and has 130mm rear spacing. Aside from that I know nothing
    about this frame.
    Any help on finding out the year it was made and frame angles would be great
    help.

    Late 1980s or early 1990s Japanese-built (rather than Waterford-built).

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  5. Hi Jeff, just send this same letter to Richard Schwinn at Waterford
    Bikes. I'm sure he can help you with your questions, Mark

    "Jeff & Jane" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    I just got my hands on a Paramount Series 7 PDG frame.
    It is a 56cm C-T with a 56 TT. The BB has a 68 imprinted on it wich I
    assume means the BB diameter. The serial number is 2E01248. It is made of
    Tange tubing and has 130mm rear spacing. Aside from that I know nothing
    about this frame.
    Any help on finding out the year it was made and frame angles would be great
    help.

    Thanks
    Jeff

  6. If it's made from Tange tubes, the bike is a "Jappa-mount", not a
    "REAL" Paramount. It was made in Japan or Taiwan after the Paramount
    Design Group broke off from Schwinn, and started making bikes in
    Waterford Wis. Strangly, the bikes are named "Waterford".

  7. (Bill K.) said:

    If it's made from Tange tubes, the bike is a "Jappa-mount", not a
    "REAL" Paramount. It was made in Japan or Taiwan after the Paramount
    Design Group broke off from Schwinn, and started making bikes in
    Waterford Wis. Strangly, the bikes are named "Waterford".

    Nothing strange there. The "Paramount" name is owned by the Schwinn
    Company, hence the fact that Richard Schwinn's own company is called
    Waterford Precision Bicycles. He can't use the Schwinn trademarks
    like his own name, the "Paramount," "World," etc. names. Welcome to
    US trademark law.

    Your history is a little inaccurate, BTW. This group didn't "break
    off" from Schwinn. The sale of the Schwinn company- to Scott? Or was
    there someone in between?- specifically did not include the Waterford
    facility.

  8. "Jeff & Jane" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    I just got my hands on a Paramount Series 7 PDG frame.
    It is a 56cm C-T with a 56 TT. The BB has a 68 imprinted on it wich I
    assume means the BB diameter. The serial number is 2E01248. It is made of
    Tange tubing and has 130mm rear spacing. Aside from that I know nothing
    about this frame.
    Any help on finding out the year it was made and frame angles would be great
    help.

    The frame was probably made in 1992. Schwinn imported these frames
    for a while. I have one and really like it.

    A good place to check out Paramount history is at:
    http://www.waterfordbikes.com/2004/data/culture/paramount/index.php

    [censored] Durbin

  9. Quoted message said:

    On 04/25/2004 12:59 PM, in article
    [email hidden], "Jeff & Jane"

    Quoted message said:

    I just got my hands on a Paramount Series 7 PDG frame.
    It is a 56cm C-T with a 56 TT. The BB has a 68 imprinted on it wich I
    assume means the BB diameter. The serial number is 2E01248. It is made of
    Tange tubing and has 130mm rear spacing. Aside from that I know nothing
    about this frame.
    Any help on finding out the year it was made and frame angles would be great
    help.

    Steven L. Sheffield said:

    Late 1980s or early 1990s Japanese-built (rather than Waterford-built).

    Not necessarily a bad thing. Those were built in the
    Panasonic PICS/POS department and are at the same quality
    level as the US versions. Nice paint, too.

    --
    Andrew Muzi
    www.yellowjersey.org
    Open every day since 1 April, 1971

  10. "Jeff & Jane" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    I just got my hands on a Paramount Series 7 PDG frame.
    It is a 56cm C-T with a 56 TT. The BB has a 68 imprinted on it wich I
    assume means the BB diameter. The serial number is 2E01248. It is made of
    Tange tubing and has 130mm rear spacing. Aside from that I know nothing
    about this frame.
    Any help on finding out the year it was made and frame angles would be great
    help.

    Thanks
    Jeff

    I have a Paramount series frame and I like it a lot. Here some info I
    have: frame wt. 4.9 lbs, Tange 188 fork wt. 1.5 lbs, seatpost dia.
    27.2mm. The frame I have came with 126mm rear spacing. As for angle
    I'll have to look up an old Bicycle mag. that had the specs. and I'll
    Email them to you in a day or so.
    One thing about the frame, I had some rust on the bottom of the down
    tube @ the at the upper lug it appeared as bubbled paint and I have
    noticed this on a few frames.
    FYI decals for this frame are not available but Waterford will sell
    you some Paramount decals. Don't worry what people say about the frame
    being from Japan it still a nice riding bike good luck.

    Keith Rhoades

  11. [email hidden] (Bill K.) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    If it's made from Tange tubes, the bike is a "Jappa-mount", not a
    "REAL" Paramount.

    That's "Pretendamount". It's OK though. Mine is 12 years old and
    will get a new paint job this year to extend its years of service.
    The $125 I paid for this frame third-hand is the best money I ever
    spent on bicycling equipment.

    [censored] Durbin

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