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  1. Got a pair of V8's for my Hardrock Sport. I havn't any other pedals to
    compare but the thread on the pedals seems to be a little too large and
    makes screwing them in rather difficult (the wear out the thread on the
    cranks when forcibly trying to screw them in). The left pedal has gone in
    with a lot of brute strength but the right one doesn't go into the crank as
    much as the other, and also is is slightly inclined from the horizontal when
    you look at it from the back of the bike (around 10-15 degrees). How do I
    correct this, should i tap it with a wooden mallet as it's going in to fix
    the bent pedal?

    I'm pretty sure I have put them the right way around (right pedal tightens
    clockwise, left pedal tightens anticlockwise. The cranks are Truvativ
    Isoflow.

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    Burning_Ranger

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  2. "Burning_Ranger" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Got a pair of V8's for my Hardrock Sport. I havn't any other pedals to
    compare but the thread on the pedals seems to be a little too large and
    makes screwing them in rather difficult (the wear out the thread on the
    cranks when forcibly trying to screw them in). The left pedal has gone in
    with a lot of brute strength but the right one doesn't go into the crank


    as

    Quoted message said:

    much as the other, and also is is slightly inclined from the horizontal


    when

    Quoted message said:

    you look at it from the back of the bike (around 10-15 degrees). How do I
    correct this, should i tap it with a wooden mallet as it's going in to fix
    the bent pedal?

    I'm pretty sure I have put them the right way around (right pedal tightens
    clockwise, left pedal tightens anticlockwise. The cranks are Truvativ
    Isoflow.

    --

    Burning_Ranger

    To email: [email hidden]

    Sounds like new cranks and new pedals required.
    Brute force rarely gives good results when fitting - only sometimes when
    removing.

    HTH
    Dave R

  3. Burning_Ranger said:

    I havn't any other pedals to
    compare but the thread on the pedals seems to be a little too large and
    makes screwing them in rather difficult

    Almost all adult bikes have 9/16in threads on the pedals. LH thread on LH
    pedal an RH thread on RH pedal.

    Quoted message said:

    The left pedal has gone in
    with a lot of brute strength but the right one doesn't go into the crank
    as
    much as the other, and also is is slightly inclined from the horizontal
    when
    you look at it from the back of the bike (around 10-15 degrees). How do I
    correct this, should i tap it with a wooden mallet as it's going in to fix
    the bent pedal?

    Please, please, please don't force them in. You should be able to thread
    them in with your fingers all of the way until the final tightening. Also
    the treads need to be well greased to prevent them from seizing up.

    If you have had to force them, the threads are damged or it is
    cross-threaded. Your local bike shop can re-thread the cranks; the pedals
    may also be salvaged if the damage is not too great.

    Ian

  4. Burning_Ranger said:

    Got a pair of V8's for my Hardrock Sport. I havn't any other pedals to
    compare but the thread on the pedals seems to be a little too large and
    makes screwing them in rather difficult (the wear out the thread on the
    cranks when forcibly trying to screw them in). The left pedal has gone in
    with a lot of brute strength but the right one doesn't go into the crank as
    much as the other, and also is is slightly inclined from the horizontal when
    you look at it from the back of the bike (around 10-15 degrees). How do I
    correct this, should i tap it with a wooden mallet as it's going in to fix
    the bent pedal?

    Quoted message said:

    I'm pretty sure I have put them the right way around (right pedal tightens
    clockwise, left pedal tightens anticlockwise. The cranks are Truvativ
    Isoflow.

    I've had absolutely no problems with my V8s and my Truvativ
    Stylo crankset.

    Specialised's page suggests the Hardrock Sport comes with
    pedals- were they easy to remove and do they screw in and out without
    problems?

    They should screw in easily with your fingers before finally
    tightening with a torque wrench/ spanner.

    If you're having to apply massive amounts of force there's
    something wrong. The funny angle sounds very unhappy. It may be you've
    killed either/ both of your cranks/ pedals.

    You should easily be able to tell if you have the pedals the
    right way round- all the V8s I've seen have L and R marked on the pedals
    to show which side they should go.
    --
    Tim.

  5. David W.E. Roberts said:


    Sounds like new cranks and new pedals required.
    Brute force rarely gives good results when fitting - only sometimes when
    removing.

    Talking about brute force, I bought a bottom bracket tool and a cassette
    tool from Mike Dyason.
    They have holes to accept a 1/2inch socket drive.
    I guess the best tool to use with these is a 'sliding T-bar'.
    I balked at Halford's price of 10 pounds for a 1/2inch breaker bar,
    or 18 for a (rather nice) ratchet handle.

    So (a) is the T-bar the best tool to use here?
    (b) anyone got ideas where to get one in SE London?
    Tried a local auto parts store, and B+Q.

    How about one of those extending wheel braces? Anyone use one of them?

  6. John Hearns said:
    David W.E. Roberts said:


    Sounds like new cranks and new pedals required.
    Brute force rarely gives good results when fitting - only sometimes
    when removing.

    Talking about brute force, I bought a bottom bracket tool and a
    cassette tool from Mike Dyason.
    They have holes to accept a 1/2inch socket drive.
    I guess the best tool to use with these is a 'sliding T-bar'.
    I balked at Halford's price of 10 pounds for a 1/2inch breaker bar,
    or 18 for a (rather nice) ratchet handle.

    So (a) is the T-bar the best tool to use here?
    (b) anyone got ideas where to get one in SE London?
    Tried a local auto parts store, and B+Q.

    How about one of those extending wheel braces? Anyone use one of them?

    Order one from screwfix. Those telescopic wheel braces can be had for 2 or 3
    quid, but you really didn't ought to be tightening a BB up with something
    that long IMO.

  7. wheelsgoround said:

    On 28-Jul-2004, "Burning_Ranger" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    I havn't any other pedals to
    compare but the thread on the pedals seems to be a little too large
    and makes screwing them in rather difficult

    Almost all adult bikes have 9/16in threads on the pedals. LH thread
    on LH pedal an RH thread on RH pedal.

    Quoted message said:

    The left pedal has gone in
    with a lot of brute strength but the right one doesn't go into the
    crank as
    much as the other, and also is is slightly inclined from the
    horizontal when
    you look at it from the back of the bike (around 10-15 degrees). How
    do I correct this, should i tap it with a wooden mallet as it's
    going in to fix the bent pedal?

    Please, please, please don't force them in. You should be able to
    thread them in with your fingers all of the way until the final
    tightening. Also the treads need to be well greased to prevent them
    from seizing up.

    If you have had to force them, the threads are damged or it is
    cross-threaded. Your local bike shop can re-thread the cranks; the
    pedals may also be salvaged if the damage is not too great.

    Ian

    I've learnt the hard way not to mess with pedals and cranks. The thread on
    the left crank had worn out but thankfully both pedals were undamaged and
    the LBS managed to re-thread the cranks. So I am very very happy now. 🙂)

    I think my big mistake was trying to screw them in the wrong way first time
    (even though I only used my fingers and didn't tighten it), that damaged the
    beginning of the crank thread slightly and from there it was all downhill.

    BTW, what kind of grease does the syringe use? Or can I use normal bike
    grease available in the shops? (my toddler nephew got hold of it and ejected
    the whole thing onto the carpet)

    --

    Burning_Ranger

    To email: [email hidden]

  8. "Burning_Ranger" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    Got a pair of V8's for my Hardrock Sport.

    Are those the pedals that come with a little allen key thing that you
    are supposed to use to undo a screw and lubricate the pedals from time
    to time? You've just reminded me that the allen key that came with
    mine burred on the first attempt and is now useless, and I haven't got
    round to lubricating the pedals for -ahem- some time now. I wonder how
    long they'll last without relubing?

    James

  9. Burning_Ranger <[email hidden]> wrote:
    [snip]

    Quoted message said:

    BTW, what kind of grease does the syringe use? Or can I use normal bike
    grease available in the shops? (my toddler nephew got hold of it and ejected
    the whole thing onto the carpet)

    No idea but it looks far too much like red flavour jam. Bog
    standard car bearing grease does the job and is a lot more economical to
    use.
    --
    Tim.

  10. in message <[email hidden]>,

    Burning_Ranger (') said:

    BTW, what kind of grease does the syringe use? Or can I use normal
    bike grease available in the shops? (my toddler nephew got hold of it
    and ejected the whole thing onto the carpet)

    Probably copper grease, which helps prevent aluminium/steel joints from
    seizing. You can get it in incredibly expensive little syringes from
    bike shops, or in fairly cheap large tubs from engineering suppliers. A
    kilogramme of the stuff will probably cost less than fifty grammes!
    Good stuff. Get some.

    --
    [email hidden] (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/

    See one nuclear war, you've seen them all.

  11. Burning_Ranger (') said:
    Quoted message said:

    BTW, what kind of grease does the syringe use? Or can I
    use normal bike grease available in the shops?

    Different greases can be chemically incompatible, so to be safe, ask DMR:

    http://www.dmrbikes.com/contact.html

    Alternatively, remove all traces of the old grease before you relube with
    the grease of your choice.

    Simon Brooke said:

    Probably copper grease, which helps prevent aluminium/steel
    joints from seizing.

    It's not anti-seize. DMR pedals have a grease port to allow the bearings to
    be lubricated without disassembly.

    James Thomson

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